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Even More Chinese Ingredient Problems

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  1. As if the melamine thing wasn't enough, there's yet another major case of
    adulterated ingredients coming from China, and in this case it has killed
    hundreds of people (albeit not in the USA). So far the problem has been confined
    to drug products, but the ingredient is also widely used in food: glycerine.
    Instead of glycerine, a Chinese company has been supplying dyethelene glycol, a
    chemical commonly used for antifreeze. It is very toxic.

    The NY Times just put a story about tracing the poison on their web site at the
    following address:
    http://tinyurl.com/2q7mv4

    Yesterday, I came across the following press release from the FDA warning
    manufacturers about the same problem:
    http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01628.html

    It's perhaps ironic that one of the events that was instrumental in granting FDA
    authority to control foods and drugs was a mass poisoning with dyethelene glycol
    in 1937 where over 100 people died.

    These two episodes, involving melamine and now dyethelene glycol, really make me
    wonder about the value system in China and whether any food product from there
    can be trusted. Knowing that the federal government is incapable of protecting
    the public, it becomes very important for the consumer to know the origins of
    foods and drugs and all their ingredients. But many would block country of
    origin labeling because it would be "bad for business".

    Just to add... there's also the catfish from China contaminated with banned
    antibiotics, but hey, no one has died from that yet! ;-)

    --
    wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

  2. wff_ng_7 said:

    As if the melamine thing wasn't enough, there's yet another major case
    of adulterated ingredients coming from China, and in this case it has
    killed hundreds of people (albeit not in the USA). So far the problem
    has been confined to drug products, but the ingredient is also widely
    used in food: glycerine. Instead of glycerine, a Chinese company has
    been supplying dyethelene glycol, a chemical commonly used for
    antifreeze. It is very toxic.

    The NY Times just put a story about tracing the poison on their web site
    at the following address:
    http://tinyurl.com/2q7mv4

    Yesterday, I came across the following press release from the FDA
    warning manufacturers about the same problem:
    http://www.fda.gov/bbs/topics/NEWS/2007/NEW01628.html

    It's perhaps ironic that one of the events that was instrumental in
    granting FDA authority to control foods and drugs was a mass poisoning
    with dyethelene glycol in 1937 where over 100 people died.

    These two episodes, involving melamine and now dyethelene glycol, really
    make me wonder about the value system in China and whether any food
    product from there can be trusted. Knowing that the federal government
    is incapable of protecting the public, it becomes very important for the
    consumer to know the origins of foods and drugs and all their
    ingredients. But many would block country of origin labeling because it
    would be "bad for business".

    Just to add... there's also the catfish from China contaminated with
    banned antibiotics, but hey, no one has died from that yet! ;-)

    It won't end until the Chinese government decides to prosecute one of
    the counterfeit drug makers -- and executes the top executives and
    bulldozes the factory to make an example. (and I think that's exactly
    how the Chinese govt does things, it just doesn't do it very often)

    Here's an interesting article:
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/05/news/06poison.php?page=1

    Bob

  3. zxcvbob said:
    wff_ng_7 said:

    As if the melamine thing wasn't enough, there's yet another major case of
    adulterated ingredients coming from China, and in this case it has killed
    hundreds of people (albeit not in the USA). So far the problem has been
    confined to drug products, but the ingredient is also widely used in food:
    glycerine. Instead of glycerine, a Chinese company has been supplying
    dyethelene glycol, a chemical commonly used for antifreeze. It is very toxic.

    The NY Times just put a story about tracing the poison on their web site at
    the following address:
    http://tinyurl.com/2q7mv4

    ....

    Quoted message said:

    Here's an interesting article:
    http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/05/05/news/06poison.php?page=1

    Amazing, it looks identical to the NY Times article I mentioned. In fact, it is
    identical. The International Herald Tribune is a NY Times company! ;-)

    Getting back to your point...

    Quoted message said:

    It won't end until the Chinese government decides to prosecute one of the
    counterfeit drug makers -- and executes the top executives and bulldozes the
    factory to make an example. (and I think that's exactly how the Chinese govt
    does things, it just doesn't do it very often)

    I suspect the Chinese government isn't going to do anything until they see their
    export markets close, either because other governments ban their goods or
    because consumers turn away from them. Apparently having hundreds of people die
    in China is not a particularly important problem. After all, they've got over a
    billion of them, so who cares if you lose a few hundred... or even a few
    thousand? Who would notice?

    --
    wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

  4. I found the web site for the Chinese glycerine manufacturer mentioned in the NY
    Times article:

    http://www.chinachemnet.com/chinataixin/index.htm

    Would you buy food products from this company? Looks like something was lost in
    the translation.

    There's also a great video on the NY Times web site about the glycerine
    poisoning. The damage done to one victim is absolutely horrible, but he was one
    of the lucky ones. He survived. Here's a link to the video:

    http://tinyurl.com/33bryf

    --
    wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

  5. wff_ng_7 said:

    I found the web site for the Chinese glycerine manufacturer mentioned in the NY
    Times article:

    http://www.chinachemnet.com/chinataixin/index.htm

    Would you buy food products from this company? Looks like something was lost in
    the translation.

    There's also a great video on the NY Times web site about the glycerine
    poisoning. The damage done to one victim is absolutely horrible, but he was one
    of the lucky ones. He survived. Here's a link to the video:

    http://tinyurl.com/33bryf

    --
    wff_ng_7 (at) verizon (dot) net

    Thanks for the link.
    Dee Dee

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