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  1. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "(t'other) Dave" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Jerry Bone Jr" <[email hidden]> wrote
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    > How long is an Epic ride? In distance traveled, feet
    > gained, and/or


    time.

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    > For me, over 20 miles is Epic (single track of
    > course), or over 2000


    feet

    Quoted message said:

    > gained is Epic, or 2.5 hours is Epic.
    >
    >

    Lord of the Rings....on an MTB...that's an Epic ;-)

    Heh, Snowdon, in 2winter, with a lung infection, and a
    bunch of


    headcases

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    around you on bikes. ',;~}~ Shaun aRe

    Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb, and
    how long is the ride? How far off is Helvellyn from
    herabouts?

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

  2. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]>
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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Heh, Snowdon, in 2winter, with a lung infection, and a
    bunch of


    headcases

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    around you on bikes. ',;~}~ Shaun aRe

    Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb,

    3114 ft.

    Quoted message said:

    and how long is the ride?

    No idea. Probably about 10 miles around, although if you get
    lost in the mist at the top and take the wrong path, about
    thirty miles.

    Quoted message said:

    How far off is Helvellyn from herabouts?

    Glenridding is about 2 hours for me, half hour closer to
    you though...

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

    Some piccies to get you interested, but generally think
    steeper and more technical than Snowdon but great fun.

    Striding edge:
    walkingbritain.co.ukw156e.shtml

    Red Tarn: fellwalk.co.ukhelv030.htm

    Bit rocky in places fellwalk.co.ukhelv050.htm

    And can be a bit bleak and exposed
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv100.htm

    Steve.

  3. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:05:02 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb,

    3114 ft.

    Quoted message said:

    and how long is the ride?

    No idea. Probably about 10 miles around, although if you
    get lost in the mist at the top and take the wrong path,
    about thirty miles.

    Quoted message said:

    How far off is Helvellyn from herabouts?

    Glenridding is about 2 hours for me, half hour closer to
    you though...

    Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    Pete

  4. "Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:05:02 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb,

    3114 ft.

    Quoted message said:

    and how long is the ride?

    No idea. Probably about 10 miles around, although if you
    get lost in the mist at the top and take the wrong path,
    about thirty miles.

    Quoted message said:

    How far off is Helvellyn from herabouts?

    Glenridding is about 2 hours for me, half hour closer to
    you though...

    Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    Pete

    Most Excellent, although a somewhat monstrous route. <
    blatant attempt at avoiding map reading> can we tempt you
    into joining us on one of the suggested shortened routes?

    Steve.

  5. On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:51:37 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
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    > > Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    Most Excellent, although a somewhat monstrous route.

    This IS a thread about epic rides, right....?

    Quoted message said:

    can we tempt you into joining us on one of the suggested
    shortened routes?

    Unlikely - I'd be reluctant to do a big mountain ride with
    people I've not ridden with before. No offence, like...

    I'm actually planning on doing Helvellyn & High Street as my
    first 'proper' ride when I'm back on the bike, with a bivi
    somewhere high up halfway through. Looking forward to that.

    One point re: that linked route - the vague track Kev
    suggests as the first ascent is VERY vague. If you're not
    sure about your map-reading, you'd be better ascending via
    the Wythburn bridleway onto Nethermost Pike, then riding N
    over the summit to link up with the Keppel Cove downhill.
    The upper track was resurfaced last year so it's no longer
    the walker-eroded horror it once was (although you'll still
    be pushing most of the way to the 2000ft contour).

    Pete

  6. On Thu, 01 Apr 2004 16:05:02 +0100, spademan o---[) * wrote:

    Have a look here: offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    You may recognise some of the pictures...

  7. Pete Jones said:

    Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    D'oh!

  8. "Penny S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Paladin said:

    "Parbs" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<aSwac.132823$Wa.52682@news-
    server.bigpond.net.au>...

    Quoted message said:

    "Jerry Bone Jr" wrote in message ...
    > How long is an Epic ride? In distance traveled, feet
    > gained, and/or time. For me, over 20 miles is Epic
    > (single track of course), or over 2000 feet gained is
    > Epic, or 2.5 hours is Epic.
    >
    >

    An Epic is not so much about the distance or time take
    - it the stories, legends and heroes born from that
    ride.

    Parbs

    I agree. The location, the composition of the group, the
    time commitment, and if anything crazy happens, like
    animal attacks, somebody getting lost, injuries,
    dehydration, fishing or other unique side-trips, all add
    to the epic-qualifications of a good ride.

    paladin

    what about the Bear Pete reconnaisance ride that I sent
    Adam. Though technically only 12 miles, I think it
    qualifies on all account. Do you think he will ever
    forgive me?

    Penny

    Beat him! Whip him! He thrives on abuse. But that explains
    the looooong appraising look we got from the older bike shop
    owner at Gravity Sports when we told him we were planning to
    ride Bear Pete one Saturday. He looked us up and down, and
    said in a slow, Idaho-to-the-bone drawl, "ya know, it really
    depends on what kinda shape yer in, and how gooda riders
    y'ar." We chose something else. He went on to say his wife
    had ridden it that morning, "but ya gotta understand, she's
    more'n half crazy and a tri-athlon champ."

    paladin

  9. "Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:51:37 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
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    >> > Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    online.com/rr048.html

    Most Excellent, although a somewhat monstrous route.

    This IS a thread about epic rides, right....?

    One mans epic is another mans death march. Looks good
    though, something to work up to.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can we tempt you into joining us on one of the suggested
    shortened routes?

    Unlikely - I'd be reluctant to do a big mountain ride with
    people I've not ridden with before. No offence, like...

    Fair enough, although are you sure you'd like to risk
    missing out on experiencing Shaun in real life technicolour?

    Quoted message said:

    I'm actually planning on doing Helvellyn & High Street as
    my first 'proper' ride when I'm back on the bike, with a
    bivi somewhere high up halfway through. Looking forward
    to that.

    Errm sounds like you'll have a great time. Camped just by
    Red Tarn myself once and climbed Helvellyn in the eary
    morning - beautiful.

    Quoted message said:


    One point re: that linked route - the vague track Kev
    suggests as the first ascent is VERY vague. If you're not
    sure about your map-reading, you'd be better ascending via
    the Wythburn bridleway onto Nethermost Pike, then riding N
    over the summit to link up with the Keppel Cove downhill.
    The upper track was resurfaced last year so it's no longer
    the walker-eroded horror it once was (although you'll
    still be pushing most of the way to the 2000ft contour).

    I'll be sure to take a look at all the suggested options.
    Cheers Pete.

    Steve.

  10. "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Thu, 1 Apr 2004 16:51:37 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:

    > >> > Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Quoted message said:

    > Best Helvellyn route - offroadadventures-offroadadventures-
    > online.com/rr048.html

    Most Excellent, although a somewhat monstrous route.

    This IS a thread about epic rides, right....?

    One mans epic is another mans death march. Looks good
    though, something to work up to.

    Heheheh, heheheheheheh, heheheheheh!

    I do believe a mere 3 years gym fees should take care of it
    for me! ',;~}~

    There was a short/'half day' club ride this saturday, around
    my old stomping grounds of Witton Park/Billinge Woods, that
    I'd planned on doing, as I'd be nearbye that day, having my
    head mowed by my sister.

    Had to take Friday off work, though, with yet another lung
    infection (I gotta do something about the 'cause' of this
    [censored], soon), and then I saw the weather Sat. afternoon and
    said fcuk it. ;-(

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    can we tempt you into joining us on one of the
    suggested shortened routes?

    Unlikely - I'd be reluctant to do a big mountain ride
    with people I've not ridden with before. No offence,
    like...

    Elitist pig, Pete.

    Quoted message said:

    Fair enough, although are you sure you'd like to risk
    missing out on experiencing Shaun in real life
    technicolour?

    WTF do you mean? Am I some kind of infamous or summink?!?!?

    ("Infamy, infamy, they've all got it in for me!"😉

    Quoted message said:
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    I'm actually planning on doing Helvellyn & High Street
    as my first 'proper' ride when I'm back on the bike,
    with a bivi somewhere high up halfway through. Looking
    forward to that.

    Errm sounds like you'll have a great time. Camped just by
    Red Tarn myself once and climbed Helvellyn in the eary
    morning - beautiful.

    I'll bet! I love to bivi, but hauling riding and bivi gear
    like that'd not be my idea of fun. Don't reckon my back
    would thank me.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    One point re: that linked route - the vague track Kev
    suggests as the first ascent is VERY vague. If you're
    not sure about your map-reading, you'd be better
    ascending via the Wythburn bridleway onto Nethermost
    Pike, then riding N over the summit to link up with the
    Keppel Cove downhill. The upper track was resurfaced
    last year so it's no longer the walker-eroded horror it
    once was (although you'll still be pushing most of the
    way to the 2000ft contour).

    I'll be sure to take a look at all the suggested options.
    Cheers Pete.

    Yeah!

    Shaun aRe

  11. On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:02:32 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:

    I'll be sure to take a look at all the suggested options.
    Cheers Pete.

    You live in Southport, don't you? I'll be there April 21st,
    could bring a map and show you. Is the Windmill still a
    bikers' pub?

    Pete

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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    Quoted message said:
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    > Heh, Snowdon, in 2winter, with a lung infection, and
    > a bunch of


    headcases

    Quoted message said:

    > around you on bikes. ',;~}~ Shaun aRe

    Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb,

    3114 ft.

    POP!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and how long is the ride?

    No idea. Probably about 10 miles around, although if you
    get lost in the mist at the top and take the wrong path,
    about thirty miles.

    Hell, I can see in mist w/eyes closed.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    How far off is Helvellyn from herabouts?

    Glenridding is about 2 hours for me, half hour closer to
    you though...

    Cool.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

    Some piccies to get you interested, but generally think
    steeper and more technical than Snowdon but great fun.

    _STEEPER_?!?!?!

    Quoted message said:

    Striding edge:
    walkingbritain.co.ukw156e.shtml

    Red Tarn: fellwalk.co.ukhelv030.htm

    Bit rocky in places fellwalk.co.ukhelv050.htm

    And can be a bit bleak and exposed
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv100.htm

    Cheers mate, will take a look later.

    Shaun aRe

  13. "Pete Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 09:02:32 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:

    I'll be sure to take a look at all the suggested options.
    Cheers Pete.

    You live in Southport, don't you?

    Yep <slightly confused look>

    Quoted message said:

    I'll be there April 21st, could bring a map and show you.
    Is the Windmill still a bikers' pub?

    Heh! yeah as far as I know, haven't been in there for a
    while. Cheers for the offer, I'll let you know -
    unfortunately I have a commitment every wednesday evening
    but I'll see what I can do.

    Quoted message said:

    Pete

    Cheers, Steve.

  14. On Mon, 5 Apr 2004 12:12:21 +0100, "spademan o---[\) *"
    <[email hidden]> blathered:

    Quoted message said:
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    You live in Southport, don't you?

    Yep <slightly confused look>

    I know where you live....

    ...and where I used to live, actually. They put my arm back
    together at the hospital there at Kew - first place I
    stopped when I got off the plane from NZ, figured that was
    the best bet so mum could pamper me after the op if it'd
    been necessary....

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Is the Windmill still a bikers' pub?

    Heh! yeah as far as I know, haven't been in there for a
    while.

    Me neither. Lost my virginity to a lass who worked behind
    the bar there in the mid 1980s, y'know.....after last
    orders, of course.

    Pete

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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    berlin.de...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Heh, Snowdon, in 2winter, with a lung infection, and
    > a bunch of


    headcases

    Quoted message said:

    > around you on bikes. ',;~}~ Shaun aRe

    Helvellyn. Soon. Interested?

    Helvellyn?!?!? Helyessyn! How high do we need to climb,

    3114 ft.

    Quoted message said:

    and how long is the ride?

    No idea. Probably about 10 miles around, although if you
    get lost in the mist at the top and take the wrong path,
    about thirty miles.

    Quoted message said:

    How far off is Helvellyn from herabouts?

    Glenridding is about 2 hours for me, half hour closer to
    you though...

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers!

    Shaun aRe

    Some piccies to get you interested, but generally think
    steeper and more technical than Snowdon but great fun.

    Striding edge:
    walkingbritain.co.ukw156e.shtml

    Quoted message said:

    Red Tarn: fellwalk.co.ukhelv030.htm

    Mighty purdy!

    Quoted message said:

    Bit rocky in places fellwalk.co.ukhelv050.htm

    Gorgeous!

    Quoted message said:

    And can be a bit bleak and exposed
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv100.htm

    Dare I say it? - 'Awesome'!

    Cheers Steve.

    Shaun aRe

  16. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some piccies to get you interested, but generally think
    steeper and more technical than Snowdon but great fun.

    Striding edge: walkingbritain.co.ukwa
    lks1/w156e.shtml


    Unfortunately though, not the route we would be taking. Nice
    though innit?

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Red Tarn: fellwalk.co.ukhelv030.htm

    Mighty purdy!

    Aye, as I mentioned to pete I camped just by the tarn about
    10 years ago when I roamed around the lakes after my 'A'
    levels. Beautiful.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bit rocky in places
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv050.htm

    Gorgeous!

    Quoted message said:

    And can be a bit bleak and exposed
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv100.htm

    Dare I say it? - 'Awesome'!

    Lovely. What they really really need though is a cafe on the
    top selling beer.

    Steve.

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    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    "spademan o---[) *" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in


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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some piccies to get you interested, but generally
    think steeper and


    more

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    technical than Snowdon but great fun.

    Striding edge:


    walkingbritain.co.ukw156e.shtml

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Unfortunately though, not the route we would be taking.
    Nice though innit?

    Word, bro'!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Red Tarn: fellwalk.co.ukhelv030.htm

    Mighty purdy!

    Aye, as I mentioned to pete I camped just by the tarn
    about 10 years ago when I roamed around the lakes after my
    'A' levels. Beautiful.

    Heh!

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Bit rocky in places
    fellwalk.co.ukhelv050.htm

    Gorgeous!

    Quoted message said:

    And can be a bit bleak and exposed


    fellwalk.co.ukhelv100.htm

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Dare I say it? - 'Awesome'!

    Lovely. What they really really need though is a cafe on
    the top selling beer.

    NSS! Hey, I'll pack a few in with my kit if I come along,
    howzat?!?!?

    Ahhhh! This gives me an idea, why TF don't we open one
    eh? Bet we'd rake it in, what, with all that regular
    passing traffic.

    ',;~}~

    Shaun R

  18. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lovely. What they really really need though is a cafe on
    the top selling beer.

    NSS! Hey, I'll pack a few in with my kit if I come along,
    howzat?!?!?

    Ahhhh! This gives me an idea, why TF don't we open one eh?
    Bet we'd rake it in, what, with all that regular passing
    traffic.

    You'd need to stay open all night. I've not done Pete's
    route on the bike but every time I've tried to sleep on the
    top in the shelter of that wall theres been walkers passing
    through in the darkness. Where do they come from, where do
    they go? Boy soldiers and Dof E contestants I think, unless
    you know better. Mike

  19. "taywood" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lovely. What they really really need though is a cafe
    on the top selling beer.

    NSS! Hey, I'll pack a few in with my kit if I come
    along, howzat?!?!?

    Ahhhh! This gives me an idea, why TF don't we open one
    eh? Bet we'd rake it in, what, with all that regular
    passing traffic.

    You'd need to stay open all night.

    I was being sarcastic yaknow, just for a change, like ',;~}~

    Quoted message said:

    I've not done Pete's route on the bike but every time I've
    tried to sleep on the top in the shelter of that wall
    theres been walkers passing through in the darkness. Where
    do they come from, where do they go?

    They come from within, and the go without...

    Quoted message said:

    Boy soldiers and Dof E contestants I think, unless you
    know better. Mike

    I know better than to think I know better - never even been
    up Helvellyn ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  20. On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 23:43:59 +0100, "taywood" <[email hidden]>
    blathered:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Lovely. What they really really need though is a cafe
    on the top
    selling beer.

    NSS! Hey, I'll pack a few in with my kit if I come along,
    howzat?!?!?

    Ahhhh! This gives me an idea, why TF don't we open one
    eh? Bet we'd rake it in, what, with all that regular
    passing traffic.

    You'd need to stay open all night. I've not done Pete's
    route on the bike but every time I've tried to sleep on
    the top in the shelter of that wall theres been walkers
    passing through in the darkness. Where do they come from,
    where do they go?

    It occurs to me that they may be people having a crack at
    the Bob Graham Round - bobgrahamround.co.ukbobgrahamround.co.uk

    I'm just toying with trying this myself, and that's the way
    I'd plan it - the Helvellyn ridge would be the easiest part
    to navigate through the night.

    Pete

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