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  1. On Wed 15 Mar 2006 06:19:07p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Michael
    "Dog3" Lonergan?

    Quoted message said:

    Mr Libido Incognito <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and posted
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote on 15 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:

    Wayne Boatwright <wayneboatwright_at_gmail.com> hitched up their
    panties and posted
    news:[email hidden]:

    > On Wed 15 Mar 2006 06:03:57a, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it Mr
    > Libido Incognito?
    >
    >> Michael "Dog3" Lonergan wrote on 15 Mar 2006 in rec.food.cooking
    >>
    >>> Patches, these people have 6 or even 7 digit incomes.
    >>
    >> If I had a 6 or 7 digit income...each of my kitchens and walk in
    >> coolers would have all the time saving devices know to man and I
    >> wouldn't require their services. There are devices out there to
    >> chop and dice food to most any size. But I don't have the room in
    >> my present 5 digit income kitchen to house them.
    >>
    >
    > Guess you need to bump up that income, Alan, as do I. :-)
    >

    I guess everyone needs to bump up the income. I do not judge people
    on income. My household is six digits. I cook. I'm not a soccer mom
    😉

    Michael

    Hey Wayne...Lets move in with 3dog...

    I have 2 empty bedrooms and 2 bathrooms. Come one come all. I'm bored
    and lonely.

    Michael

    Don't tempt me. :-)

    --
    Wayne Boatwright o¿o
    ____________________

    BIOYA

  2. Naomi said:
    Dave Smith said:

    Put the money in a Tim Horton's franchise. My town of 15,000 has three


    of them.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There are probably 4 or 5 Tim Hortons for every McDonalds.

    Or, become an entrepeneur, start something like this from scratch and
    figure out what people in your area will pay and what kind of food and
    atmosphere they would like. And be very charming, like the people who
    give cooking classes. And serve alcohol.

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  3. jmcquown said:

    So you'd go someplace and spend 2 hours and hundreds of dollars to chop,
    slice, dice and so on and so forth just to bring home a weeks worth of
    dinners? Keep in mind, this does not include salads, vegetables and/or


    side

    Quoted message said:

    dishes.

    And you have to do it with *stangers*, no less -- thanks, but NO thanks...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  4. x-no-archive: yes

    Gregory Morrow said:

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    Yeah, right, whatever.

  5. jmcquown said:

    So you'd go someplace and spend 2 hours and hundreds of dollars to chop,
    slice, dice and so on and so forth just to bring home a weeks worth of
    dinners? Keep in mind, this does not include salads, vegetables and/or side
    dishes.

    Lots of people do things I wouldn't do, and many of them spend a lot of
    money to do them, too.

    I wouldn't be interested in a service like this. I expect some people
    would. Whether enough would be interested to support a franchise - I
    haven't the faintest idea, but clearly the franchise owner would need a
    neighbourhood of people with a fair amount of disposable income,
    transportation and time, at the very least, and even then success would
    depend on the customers' use of other options from frozen meals from the
    supermarket to a live-in cook.

    --
    Cheryl

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:
    Naomi said:

    Or, become an entrepeneur, start something like this from scratch and
    figure out what people in your area will pay and what kind of food and
    atmosphere they would like. And be very charming, like the people who
    give cooking classes. And serve alcohol.

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    LOL!
    --
    -Barb
    <www.jamlady.eboard.com> Updated 3-15-06, Sam I Am! Hamantaschen and
    Peanut Butter cookies for Grandpa.
    "If it's not worth doing to excess, it's not worth doing at all."

  7. ~patches~ said:

    I don't really care what you consider. Either do your own research
    or begone.

    So you think you should be able to claim whatever you want, then when
    challenged tell the other person to go do the work?

    Now who's stupid?

    Brian
    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  8. Dave Smith said:
    Default User said:
    Quoted message said:

    So you'd go someplace and spend 2 hours and hundreds of dollars to
    chop, slice, dice and so on and so forth just to bring home a
    weeks worth of dinners? Keep in mind, this does not include
    salads, vegetables and/or side dishes.

    Would I? No. Could I imagine that it might work for some people, who
    are kitchen-challenged but like the idea of something approaching
    home-cooked for the family? Yes.

    This is interesting. This started off with someone asking if anyone
    would use the service.

    The OP picked a poor newsgroup. RFC doesn't give anything like a
    standard cross-section of their likely users. It's like asking
    furniture kits in a woodworking newsgroup. The kind of answers you're
    likely to get are, "Hell no, we like going to the lumberyard and
    selecting the wood we want, cutting and finishing, staining and
    sealing. Anyone who doesn't want to should just buy premade furniture."

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  9. Dave Smith said:
    Default User said:


    Quoted message said:

    > Nonsense. There's no other way that gives this level of
    > planning, pre-preparation, and similar quality of ingredients.
    > They are essentially paying for kits.

    Kits? Kraft Dinner is kit. El Paso Taco dinner kits are kids.

    But those are basically garbage. You no control over the quality of
    ingredients. With the kits provided by the service, you get
    essentially a good home-cooked meal with the planning,
    coordination, and some (I guess) prep down.

    How much control would you have over quality with this "service",
    other than deciding that the ingredients looked off and took a pass
    on it? These are people who apparently don't know any better and
    they need someone to show them how to assemble a meal.

    A lot more than packaged, preservative-laden [censored].

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Perhaps not, but it sure looks like a dumb idea to me. I can't
    imagine using the service myself and I can't imagine who would.

    Yet people are.

    Not to many are. I looked at the web site and the locations. Don't be
    expecting to find one nearby unless they have very rapid expansion.
    IIRC there were only 4 or 5 of them and they were in MI and KY.

    There are number of similar operations with different names. You can't
    go by one start-up.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    The OP suggested a cost of $120 for six entrees. I would do it for
    that.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    You think so? I'll be the government has a different idea about
    that.

    Do you think the government knows about people who do this? It's
    part of the great underground economy. Doing it in someone's one
    kitchen usually removes inspection requirements.

    So you advocate breaking the law? What happens when someone gets sick,
    and you have no insurance coverage for that? Which you won't, because
    you aren't licensed and working out of an approved kitchen.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  10. Default User said:
    ~patches~ said:

    I don't really care what you consider. Either do your own research
    or begone.

    So you think you should be able to claim whatever you want, then when
    challenged tell the other person to go do the work?

    Now who's stupid?

    You are for continuing this topic! The OP is long gone and no one
    really cares as most have voiced they are interested in this type of
    service. Say, you aren't by chance the OP are you? Thinking of making
    a career move? If so, you best learn how to do your own research or you
    won't be in business very long.

    You want to argue the merits of this service do so with someone else.
    It's a stupid service not worth my time.

    Bye

    Quoted message said:

    Brian

  11. Default User said:


    Quoted message said:


    This is interesting. This started off with someone asking if anyone
    would use the service.

    The OP picked a poor newsgroup. RFC doesn't give anything like a
    standard cross-section of their likely users. It's like asking
    furniture kits in a woodworking newsgroup. The kind of answers you're
    likely to get are, "Hell no, we like going to the lumberyard and
    selecting the wood we want, cutting and finishing, staining and
    sealing. Anyone who doesn't want to should just buy premade furniture."

    Heck no. We have Ikea :-)
    But as I pointed out.... the OP came here and asked if anyone would use that
    service. I don't recall any saying that they would be interested but they
    knew people who they thought might and then some speculation on what sort of
    people might fall for that gimmick. So using your woodworking newsgroup
    example the answers would be to buy premade furniture or.... no I wouldn't
    be but I think there may be people who would.

  12. ~patches~ said:

    Default User wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    So you think you should be able to claim whatever you want, then
    when challenged tell the other person to go do the work?

    Now who's stupid?

    You are for continuing this topic!

    You're the one that says she's done, but can't seem to stop.

    Quoted message said:

    You want to argue the merits of this service do so with someone else.

    So you keep saying.

    Brian
    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  13. Default User said:
    Quoted message said:

    Not to many are. I looked at the web site and the locations. Don't be
    expecting to find one nearby unless they have very rapid expansion.
    IIRC there were only 4 or 5 of them and they were in MI and KY.

    There are number of similar operations with different names. You can't
    go by one start-up.

    The thread was about a particular franchise. When I checked their web site
    there were less than a half dozen stores. Someone posted about a similar
    operation and when I checked their web site there were, I believe, 7 stores.
    Their franchises are exactly exploding into popularity across the country.

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Do you think the government knows about people who do this? It's
    part of the great underground economy. Doing it in someone's one
    kitchen usually removes inspection requirements.

    So you advocate breaking the law?

    About the inspections? There are no inspection requirements for food cooked
    in your own home for your own use. There is no law broken. The underground
    economy is another matter. As much as I would like to see everyone pay
    their share of taxes so that the burden on me would be lower, I admit that I
    view things differently when it comes to having people work for me. If I
    insist on doing everything above board the guy has to pay taxes. He will be
    paying the taxes with the extra money that he charges me in order to cover
    the taxes. I end up paying the tax. I would rather not. Let him worry
    about getting caught. I have no legal obligation to make sure he declares
    money earned.

    Quoted message said:

    What happens when someone gets sick,
    and you have no insurance coverage for that? Which you won't, because
    you aren't licensed and working out of an approved kitchen.

    But we are talking about having someone come in and cook food to be eaten at
    home. As far as the local health department is concerned it is the same as
    cooking for yourself. It's a different matter if the food is being prepared
    in my kitchen to be sold to the public, whether I have hired someone to cook
    it or if I do it myself.

  14. Dave Smith said:

    Default User wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    What happens when someone gets sick,
    and you have no insurance coverage for that? Which you won't,
    because you aren't licensed and working out of an approved kitchen.

    But we are talking about having someone come in and cook food to be
    eaten at home. As far as the local health department is concerned it
    is the same as cooking for yourself. It's a different matter if the
    food is being prepared in my kitchen to be sold to the public,
    whether I have hired someone to cook it or if I do it myself.

    So you're talking about personal chefs, right? Sounds like I didn't
    understand what you were saying before. Usually the rules are much less
    restrictive, although I'd certainly want to make sure I had insurance
    coverage before trying anything like that.

    Brian

    --
    If televison's a babysitter, the Internet is a drunk librarian who
    won't shut up.
    -- Dorothy Gambrell (http://catandgirl.com)

  15. Default User said:


    So you're talking about personal chefs, right? Sounds like I didn't
    understand what you were saying before.

    That's because I tricked you by suggesting that " you can even get a cook
    to come in ".

    Quoted message said:

    Usually the rules are much less
    restrictive, although I'd certainly want to make sure I had insurance
    coverage before trying anything like that.

    Of course. Everyone who has someone come into their house to work under the
    table naturally checks their insurance coverage.

  16. Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:
    Naomi said:

    Or, become an entrepeneur, start something like this from scratch and
    figure out what people in your area will pay and what kind of food and
    atmosphere they would like. And be very charming, like the people who
    give cooking classes. And serve alcohol.

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    LOL!

    Not too dissimilar from those "cook your own steak" places (are those still
    around?). You cook yer own meat, serve yerself from the salad/sides bar,
    etc...

    In any case too much work, one is simply dragging out the cooking
    experience. One can accomplish more by simply managing one's own time
    (shopping, prep, etc.) in a better manner...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  17. x-no-archive: yes

    Gregory Morrow said:
    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    Naomi wrote:
    > Or, become an entrepeneur, start something like this from scratch and
    > figure out what people in your area will pay and what kind of food and
    > atmosphere they would like. And be very charming, like the people who
    > give cooking classes. And serve alcohol.

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    LOL!

    Not too dissimilar from those "cook your own steak" places (are those still
    around?). You cook yer own meat, serve yerself from the salad/sides bar,
    etc...

    In any case too much work, one is simply dragging out the cooking
    experience. One can accomplish more by simply managing one's own time
    (shopping, prep, etc.) in a better manner...

    --
    Best
    Greg

    I am not defending this particular franchise idea, but we are not
    talking about restaurants here. We are talking about places where you
    go to prepare meals which you bring home to consume at home. Something
    like a cooking class, only you bring food home. If you could spend an
    enjoyable evening making entrees for an entire week while avoiding the
    tedium of shopping, some people might indeed consider that a good use
    of time. I might even, for the right kind of food (which the business
    currently under consideration does not offer).

  18. "Gregory Morrow"
    <[email hidden]> hitched up
    their panties and posted
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    Melba's Jammin said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,
    "Gregory Morrow"

    Quoted message said:

    Naomi wrote:
    > Or, become an entrepeneur, start something like this from scratch
    > and figure out what people in your area will pay and what kind of
    > food and atmosphere they would like. And be very charming, like
    > the people who give cooking classes. And serve alcohol.

    That would be called a "restaurant"...

    LOL!

    Not too dissimilar from those "cook your own steak" places (are those
    still around?). You cook yer own meat, serve yerself from the
    salad/sides bar, etc...

    In any case too much work, one is simply dragging out the cooking
    experience. One can accomplish more by simply managing one's own time
    (shopping, prep, etc.) in a better manner...

    I went to one of those cook your own places in my home town. I chose the
    steak (great choice) cooked it and waited on myself. I got water from my
    waitperson. It was only $30 so I didn't feel too bad but for $30 I could
    have made a ton of stuff at home.

    Michael

    --
    "The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
    served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
    found."

    --Calvin Trillin

  19. Naomi said:

    I am not defending this particular franchise idea, but we are not
    talking about restaurants here. We are talking about places where you
    go to prepare meals which you bring home to consume at home. Something
    like a cooking class, only you bring food home. If you could spend an
    enjoyable evening making entrees for an entire week while avoiding the
    tedium of shopping, some people might indeed consider that a good use
    of time.

    I would think that anyone who might consider a night of preparing food to be fun
    would be just as happy to do it at home, and that they would be happy to save the
    money. One of the earlier posts suggested $120 for 6 entrees.

  20. Michael \'Dog3\' Lonergan said:
    Quoted message said:


    In any case too much work, one is simply dragging out the cooking
    experience. One can accomplish more by simply managing one's own time
    (shopping, prep, etc.) in a better manner...

    I went to one of those cook your own places in my home town. I chose the
    steak (great choice) cooked it and waited on myself. I got water from my
    waitperson. It was only $30 so I didn't feel too bad but for $30 I could
    have made a ton of stuff at home.

    I went to one by accident. We were on vacation and looking for a place to
    eat. We saw a fun looking group of people who looked like they were knew
    where they were going so we followed them. It turned out to be a cook your
    own. The grill area was the most sociable part of the restaurant. I had a
    good time. Couldn't complain about my food, since I cooked it myself. My
    wife ordered a Whiskey Steak from the kitchen.

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