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Encounter w/yellow jackets

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  1. From my almost-daily diary at www.ChainReaction.com/diary.htm

    10/01/04- SHOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT RIDE (or, "The Return of The Claw!"😉.
    Big group, including Kevin, Steve, Karl (could be Carl, not sure of the
    spelling), Rob, new-guy Bart, Jason & Donald from the shop and myself. This
    was to be the day for the most-furious attack ever on King's Mtn, a
    challenge none of us were prepared for, but all but two of us were dragged
    into, literally kicking & screaming. About one half mile down from the top
    of Kings, where that final opening is with the house to the right (on the
    hillside that often has snow in the winter), we were ruthlessly attacked
    from behind. If you're familiar race tactics, that's the best way to do it.
    Still, it came as a complete surprise... we were literally stung. By yellow
    jackets. Six of us got nailed by yellow jacket stings/bites, almost
    entirely on our tail ends. At first you think that maybe there's something
    that got caught in your shorts, perhaps something that fell onto your seat
    and you sat on it, maybe a twig. But it felt a lot sharper than a twig, and
    when you hear others yelling at the same time, that just doesn't seem
    likely. And when you feel it a couple more times...

    The amazing thing was that nobody saw them coming. No sounds, nothing
    flying around. These guys literally came from nowhere, attacking almost
    entirely from the back, and going ruthlessly for our shorts. Weird. All
    except at least one, anyway. One that figured the extra weight I had put on
    in Hawaii might have insulated my tail end a bit too much for the desired
    effect, so this guy goes for maximum effect- he nails me between the fingers
    of my right hand. Not a good thing. Last time that happened, my arm
    swelled up like a football. This time I was fortunate to have Bart riding
    with us, who had brought along Benadryl, just in case something like this
    were to happen. I accepted his offer and rode on, hoping that, perhaps, the
    Benadryl would keep my body from reacting in the usual fashion.

    I didn't feel quite right up on Skyline though, and with that many stings,
    I wasn't sure how I might react (for what it's worth, when I went to Kaiser
    for the time my arm had swelled up like a football, they told me it was a
    "severe toxic reaction", not allergic, just a source of discomfort until the
    swelling goes away). Probably from the adrenalin rush I didn't feel quite
    right though, so Bart & I headed back down 84 while the rest of the gang
    continued towards Old LaHonda.

    I thought I was doing pretty well yesterday, with pretty minimal swelling.
    Got me thinking that perhaps Benadryl, taken quickly, is a miracle cure!
    But such is not the case. This morning my right hand looks semi-grotesque
    (actually, my kids probably think it looks less so, since they think it's
    gross that my veins are normally so visible, and they certainly aren't
    now!), swollen to about twice the thickness it should be. The skin is
    pulled so tight that it's difficult to clench a fist, and yes, it itches
    like mad. Kinda looks like a claw. No pain though, just itching. In a few
    days it will be back to normal, but I'd sure hate to try and wear a cycling
    glove now, especially since I'm not sure it's finished, er, growing. Like
    one of those cartoon guys who drinks some potion and starts growing to
    twice-normal size, and all of his clothes start shredding.

    Let's just say I'm thankful the stings in my tail end didn't cause a
    similar reaction.

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

  2. Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction Bicycles said:

    From my almost-daily diary at www.ChainReaction.com/diary.htm

    This morning my right hand looks semi-grotesque

    You forgot to say that your web page entry includes a photo - looks like
    a turkey drumstick! I'm surprised your watch still fits.

    --
    My bike blog:
    http://diabloscott.blogspot.com/

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    From my almost-daily diary at www.ChainReaction.com/diary.htm

    This morning my right hand looks semi-grotesque

    You forgot to say that your web page entry includes a photo - looks like a
    turkey drumstick! I'm surprised your watch still fits.

    I didn't want to scare too many people off! Yeah, drumstick is about right.
    Glad I don't wear any rings on that hand. Fortunately the watchband is very
    adjustable (and allows me to monitor the swelling, which seems to continue,
    yuck). 48-72 hours after the sting is when it should max out, and from then
    on begin to return to normal.

    If anyone else wants to see the photo, you can either visit the diary (url
    listed at the top of this email) or go directly to it at
    http://www.chainreaction.com/images/returnoftheclaw.JPG

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  4. Hi Mike,

    I was stung on the neck about a month ago. I did not react as bad. However,
    given your allergic reaction, you may want to contact your doctor and
    determine if you need to carry something stat. He may prescribe an injection
    kit that you use at the time of the sting/bite. People do go into shock and
    die from bites and stings from assorted flying insects. You may want to
    determine if you are at risk from such an event.

    BTW the Benedryl should have helped. You could have been worse off with out
    it!

    Brian

  5. Quoted message said:

    I was stung on the neck about a month ago. I did not react as bad.
    However,
    given your allergic reaction, you may want to contact your doctor and
    determine if you need to carry something stat. He may prescribe an
    injection
    kit that you use at the time of the sting/bite. People do go into shock
    and
    die from bites and stings from assorted flying insects. You may want to
    determine if you are at risk from such an event.

    BTW the Benedryl should have helped. You could have been worse off with
    out
    it!

    Some background info is in order here. I have been stung several times
    before by yellow jackets, with similar reactions. The first time it
    happened, I also got stung on my right hand, between the fingers. Nothing
    much for a day. And then... yikes! Big-time swelling, moving slowly up my
    arm. Very defined edge to the swelling too, which was kind of
    interesting... I started putting hash marks on it every four hours or so, so
    I could measure its progress. Towards the end of the second day I convinced
    myself to go to the Doctor (which takes a lot of doing; I live in fear of
    having blood drawn, never could have made it as a pro cyclist with all the
    drug tests!). They check me over, see that all vital signs are normal, no
    problems breathing etc. Just, they said, a "severe toxic reaction" and
    nothing to be worried about. Said it would peak shortly and then gradually
    return to normal.

    And... it did. About 48 hours after a bite/sting from a yellow jacket, it
    starts to go down. It also starts itching about that time, which, of
    course, causes you to scratch which slows down the recovery... sigh.

    So what I've been told is this: An allergic reaction produces a much more
    immediate effect, and often causes trouble away from the area of the sting
    (breathing problems, for example). Also, an allergic reaction can get worse
    with each exposure, and my reaction to yellow jackets hasn't changed over
    the years. But, I did do some research after this latest one (google is
    your friend, etc etc) and found that 10-15% of the population responds
    exactly the same way I did, and that, eventually, a very small number (3%)
    will develop a more severe allergic reaction with repeated exposure.
    However, that's not a whole lot different from the population at large (3%
    of 10-15% is a pretty small number, after all), so I'm not too worried.

    But I do sometimes think about how such an encounter could wreck a week-long
    cycling trip!

    --Mike Jacoubowsky
    Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReaction.com
    IMBA, BikesBelong, NBDA member

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