Do not diet?

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:: You know, even though I agree with some of this article,
:: particularly the idea that there is such a thing as "fat but fit," I
:: don't really care. I like the fact I've lost 22 pounds thus far. I
:: *look* better. I'll accept my weight when its about another 15
:: pounds lighter.

that notion of 'fat but fit' is real fuzzy if you ask me. You can be fitter
for most activities if you're less fat. You certainly can be "not sedentary"
and fat, though, and I guess perhaps that's what they mean....

::
:: Roger Zoul wrote:
::: Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
:::
::: It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose
::: those extra pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales!
::: Two studies suggest that losing weight may not be the best health
::: decision for overweight people
:::
:::
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies suggest
that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies suggest
that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies suggest
that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies suggest
that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies suggest
that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

Quoted message said:

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies

suggest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdi
et/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

Quoted message said:

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies

suggest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdi
et/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

Quoted message said:

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies

suggest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdi
et/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

Quoted message said:

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies

suggest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdi
et/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

Quoted message said:

Thus, we have an unprofessional interpretation of a study, which may not
even exist.

"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet

It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese, lose those

extra

Quoted message said:

pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two studies

suggest

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

that losing weight may not be the best health decision for overweight

people

Quoted message said:

http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdi
et/donnotdiet

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
||
|| It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese,
|| lose those extra
|| pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two
|| studies suggest
|| that losing weight may not be the best health decision for
|| overweight people
||
||
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

People must get over the concept that they diet to loose weight,
then can go
right back to whatever they were doing before when they reach
their goal.
Permenant weight loss is a life change. If you read diet books
like Atkins or
South Beach, you can see that there is weight loss (phase 1 and
2) followed
by maintenance (phase 3) which should be a permenant change in
the way
you eat. I don't see a phase 4, go back to pigging out.

BJ
--
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." -- Fabius Maximus

Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
||
|| It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese,
|| lose those extra
|| pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two
|| studies suggest
|| that losing weight may not be the best health decision for
|| overweight people
||
||
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

People must get over the concept that they diet to loose weight,
then can go
right back to whatever they were doing before when they reach
their goal.
Permenant weight loss is a life change. If you read diet books
like Atkins or
South Beach, you can see that there is weight loss (phase 1 and
2) followed
by maintenance (phase 3) which should be a permenant change in
the way
you eat. I don't see a phase 4, go back to pigging out.

BJ
--
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." -- Fabius Maximus

Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
||
|| It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese,
|| lose those extra
|| pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two
|| studies suggest
|| that losing weight may not be the best health decision for
|| overweight people
||
||
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

People must get over the concept that they diet to loose weight,
then can go
right back to whatever they were doing before when they reach
their goal.
Permenant weight loss is a life change. If you read diet books
like Atkins or
South Beach, you can see that there is weight loss (phase 1 and
2) followed
by maintenance (phase 3) which should be a permenant change in
the way
you eat. I don't see a phase 4, go back to pigging out.

BJ
--
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." -- Fabius Maximus

Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
||
|| It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese,
|| lose those extra
|| pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two
|| studies suggest
|| that losing weight may not be the best health decision for
|| overweight people
||
||
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

People must get over the concept that they diet to loose weight,
then can go
right back to whatever they were doing before when they reach
their goal.
Permenant weight loss is a life change. If you read diet books
like Atkins or
South Beach, you can see that there is weight loss (phase 1 and
2) followed
by maintenance (phase 3) which should be a permenant change in
the way
you eat. I don't see a phase 4, go back to pigging out.

BJ
--
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." -- Fabius Maximus

Roger Zoul <[email hidden]> wrote:
|| Overweight? Why You Should NOT Diet
||
|| It seems like common sense: If you're overweight or obese,
|| lose those extra
|| pounds and you'll be healthier. Hold onto your scales! Two
|| studies suggest
|| that losing weight may not be the best health decision for
|| overweight people
||
||
http://channels.netscape.com/ns/homerealestate/package.jsp?name=fte/donnotdiet/donnotdiet

People must get over the concept that they diet to loose weight,
then can go
right back to whatever they were doing before when they reach
their goal.
Permenant weight loss is a life change. If you read diet books
like Atkins or
South Beach, you can see that there is weight loss (phase 1 and
2) followed
by maintenance (phase 3) which should be a permenant change in
the way
you eat. I don't see a phase 4, go back to pigging out.

BJ
--
"A wise and good man can suffer no disgrace." -- Fabius Maximus

In article <cBrFe.44812$%K2.5599@pd7tw1no>, "Tom G" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

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This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

And then there is the malnutrition factor...
How many "dieters" are good about taking supplements?

I know that some of the problems (such as hair thinning) are due to the
fact that I tend to be lazy about taking my supplements which, IMHO, are
100% necessary when cutting back on food volume. I look and feel better
when I take my damned pills!

Just my 2 cents......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <cBrFe.44812$%K2.5599@pd7tw1no>, "Tom G" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

And then there is the malnutrition factor...
How many "dieters" are good about taking supplements?

I know that some of the problems (such as hair thinning) are due to the
fact that I tend to be lazy about taking my supplements which, IMHO, are
100% necessary when cutting back on food volume. I look and feel better
when I take my damned pills!

Just my 2 cents......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <cBrFe.44812$%K2.5599@pd7tw1no>, "Tom G" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

And then there is the malnutrition factor...
How many "dieters" are good about taking supplements?

I know that some of the problems (such as hair thinning) are due to the
fact that I tend to be lazy about taking my supplements which, IMHO, are
100% necessary when cutting back on food volume. I look and feel better
when I take my damned pills!

Just my 2 cents......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <cBrFe.44812$%K2.5599@pd7tw1no>, "Tom G" <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

"Cubit" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

This has the kind of URL that suggests it is a creation in someone's
personal webpage space.

The review of the study fails to address re-gain among the participants.
Since most dieters re-gain, such a study needs to identify those few who
lose and then maintain.

I agree. Since 95% of dieters regain the weight, it is likely they
haven't changed their lifestyle and risk factors to gain any benefit. It's
probably true that maintaining would have been a better option in that case.
Articles like this one are more confusing then informative and tend to
leave out important data in order to draw their conclusions.

And then there is the malnutrition factor...
How many "dieters" are good about taking supplements?

I know that some of the problems (such as hair thinning) are due to the
fact that I tend to be lazy about taking my supplements which, IMHO, are
100% necessary when cutting back on food volume. I look and feel better
when I take my damned pills!

Just my 2 cents......
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson