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  1. DNA Joe Job

    10th May 2004

    A regular Joe Job is when a spam run is forged to appear as
    though it came from an innocent party's domain, which is
    then generally flooded by the bounces. A DNA Joe Job is
    similar in some respects but with potentially far more
    serious consequences for the victim and society as a whole.

    An educational biotechnology kit designed to teach students
    about recombinant DNA technology via hands-on experiments
    appeared on the market a few years ago.

    Recombinant DNA technology allows a piece of foreign DNA to
    be inserted into a bacterium. By that means, for example, it
    is possible to harvest human insulin from bacteria growing
    in a fermentor.

    The kit enables students to insert a piece of their own DNA
    into the ubiquitous gut bacterium Escherichia coli. It does
    so by using a small circle of DNA called a plasmid as the
    vector (i.e. delivery system).

    Plasmids are found in most types of bacteria along with a
    single much larger loop of somatic DNA that determines the
    bacterium's species. A plasmid carries one or more genes
    that confer a survival advantage to the host, such as, for
    example, resistance to an antibiotic.

    A bacterium can contain thousands of plasmids, each of
    which can be passed to members of its own and other
    species. Useful plasmids propagate quickly through
    bacterial colonies.

    Bacteria also contain restriction endonuclease enzymes that
    cut DNA at specific sites and ligase enzymes that join such
    cut pieces together.

    The kit exploits all of this bacterial biochemistry and
    includes a plasmid carrying two genes that confer resistance
    to the antibiotics ampicillin and kanamycin, respectively.

    The resistance genes, when used with the antibiotics, enable
    the students to identify and isolate the bacteria that have
    taken up the modified plasmids prepared during various
    experiments.

    The kit's capabilities bore a striking similarity to
    classified work carried out at places like Porton Down where
    biological weapons are developed using virtually the same
    techniques.

    The kit allows high school students to easily carryout
    genetic experiments that took hundreds of leading scientists
    using expensive and sophisticated equipment many years to
    research and develop. A kit costs a few dollars and fits
    comfortably into a pocket.

    It soon became apparent that the kit also provided the means
    to carry out the ultimate Joe Job using DNA rather than a
    domain name.

    Criminal DNA profiling (or fingerprinting) works by
    measuring the lengths of Short Tandem Repeats (STRs) found
    within human DNA using a process known as PCR. The lengths
    of approximately 500 STR variations, known as alleles, at
    ten (UK) or thirteen (US) locations makes up a DNA profile.
    Those STR allele molecules are between 50 and 500 base pairs
    in length.

    With access to the necessary equipment, it is possible to
    synthesise the allele molecules used in profiling (custom-
    designed allele molecules can also be purchased online). The
    molecules require special "sticky ends" so that the DNA
    ligase enzyme can join them together. Eventually, a long
    strand of DNA carrying profiling alleles and their PCR
    primer binding sites can be created.

    Custom designed DNA molecules with the correct sticky ends
    can be substituted for the student's own DNA at the point in
    the experiment where human DNA is inserted into the
    plasmids. The experiment results in a culture of E. coli
    containing a section of DNA carrying human criminal
    profiling alleles. The spiked plasmids can be taken up by
    many other species of bacteria, too.

    Billions of the modified bacteria can then be bred in a home
    made fermentor. Every bacterium that acquires the modified
    plasmid also acquires an antibiotic resistance gene and the
    survival advantage it confers. Modified E coli will swap
    plasmids with other species of bacteria. In the environment,
    STR-loaded plasmids will eventually pass to bacteria that
    spread via airborne spores and be blown across the planet.

    Strains of bacteria carrying specially encoded DNA sequences
    have already been released into the environment by Porton
    Down scientists, who have also developed customised PCR
    primers to identify the tagged biological agents used in
    dispersal experiments.

    The opportunities for mischief are endless. The full
    profile of a particular individual could be inserted into a
    plasmid thereby giving the impression that he or she was
    present at every crime scene contaminated with their
    personalised bacteria.

    Random collections of human alleles can be inserted into
    common bacteria found in homes, on human skin and within
    body cavities (causing bad breath, urinary infections, etc)
    or in the gut of birds, rodents, flies and household pets.
    They would eventually become widespread posing serious
    problems for agencies relying on DNA profiling to identify
    criminals.

    Apart from human allele sequences, plasmids could contain
    tens of thousands of modified PCR primer sequences. Their
    PCR amplification products would bind to the forward and
    reverse primers and to the template DNA primer sites thereby
    blocking the amplification of one or more targeted alleles.

    The fact that such bacteria exist (or might exist) could
    introduce difficulties for prosecutors and new defence
    arguments for those defendants against whom DNA evidence is
    adduced. It might also cause jurors to pause before
    accepting the myth of infallibility that has come to be
    associated with forensic DNA evidence.

    The next time someone discards a cigarette butt or a used
    tissue, he or she could become the most famous Joe Job
    victim on the planet.

    Author's details -
    scandals.orgpkindex.html

    DNA Evidence:
    - is it safe to convict?
    scandals.orgpk020929.html
    - science or smoke and mirrors?
    scandals.orgpk021019.html
    - potential panacea or pandemonium?
    scandals.orgpk021129.html RNAi:
    miracle cure, silent killer or weapon of mass destruction?
    scandals.orgpk030820.html

  2. "Anon Poster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    DNA Joe Job

    10th May 2004

    A regular Joe Job is when a spam run is forged to appear
    as though it came from an innocent party's domain, which
    is then generally flooded by the bounces. A DNA Joe Job
    is similar in some respects but with potentially far
    more serious consequences for the victim and society as
    a whole.

    An educational biotechnology kit designed to teach
    students about recombinant DNA technology via hands-on
    experiments appeared on the market a few years ago.

    Recombinant DNA technology allows a piece of foreign DNA
    to be inserted into a bacterium. By that means, for
    example, it is possible to harvest human insulin from
    bacteria growing in a fermentor.

    The kit enables students to insert a piece of their own
    DNA into the ubiquitous gut bacterium Escherichia coli. It
    does so by using a small circle of DNA called a plasmid as
    the vector (i.e. delivery system).

    Plasmids are found in most types of bacteria along with a
    single much larger loop of somatic DNA that determines the
    bacterium's species. A plasmid carries one or more genes
    that confer a survival advantage to the host, such as, for
    example, resistance to an antibiotic.

    A bacterium can contain thousands of plasmids, each of
    which can be passed to members of its own and other
    species. Useful plasmids propagate quickly through
    bacterial colonies.

    Bacteria also contain restriction endonuclease enzymes
    that cut DNA at specific sites and ligase enzymes that
    join such cut pieces together.

    The kit exploits all of this bacterial biochemistry and
    includes a plasmid carrying two genes that confer
    resistance to the antibiotics ampicillin and kanamycin,
    respectively.

    The resistance genes, when used with the antibiotics,
    enable the students to identify and isolate the bacteria
    that have taken up the modified plasmids prepared during
    various experiments.

    The kit's capabilities bore a striking similarity to
    classified work carried out at places like Porton Down
    where biological weapons are developed using virtually the
    same techniques.

    The kit allows high school students to easily carryout
    genetic experiments that took hundreds of leading
    scientists using expensive and sophisticated equipment
    many years to research and develop. A kit costs a few
    dollars and fits comfortably into a pocket.

    It soon became apparent that the kit also provided the
    means to carry out the ultimate Joe Job using DNA rather
    than a domain name.

    Criminal DNA profiling (or fingerprinting) works by
    measuring the lengths of Short Tandem Repeats (STRs) found
    within human DNA using a process known as PCR. The lengths
    of approximately 500 STR variations, known as alleles, at
    ten (UK) or thirteen (US) locations makes up a DNA
    profile. Those STR allele molecules are between 50 and 500
    base pairs in length.

    With access to the necessary equipment, it is possible to
    synthesise the allele molecules used in profiling (custom-
    designed allele molecules can also be purchased online).
    The molecules require special "sticky ends" so that the
    DNA ligase enzyme can join them together. Eventually, a
    long strand of DNA carrying profiling alleles and their
    PCR primer binding sites can be created.

    Custom designed DNA molecules with the correct sticky ends
    can be substituted for the student's own DNA at the point
    in the experiment where human DNA is inserted into the
    plasmids. The experiment results in a culture of E. coli
    containing a section of DNA carrying human criminal
    profiling alleles. The spiked plasmids can be taken up by
    many other species of bacteria, too.

    Billions of the modified bacteria can then be bred in a
    home made fermentor. Every bacterium that acquires the
    modified plasmid also acquires an antibiotic resistance
    gene and the survival advantage it confers. Modified E
    coli will swap plasmids with other species of bacteria. In
    the environment, STR-loaded plasmids will eventually pass
    to bacteria that spread via airborne spores and be blown
    across the planet.

    Strains of bacteria carrying specially encoded DNA
    sequences have already been released into the environment
    by Porton Down scientists, who have also developed
    customised PCR primers to identify the tagged biological
    agents used in dispersal experiments.

    The opportunities for mischief are endless. The full
    profile of a particular individual could be inserted into
    a plasmid thereby giving the impression that he or she was
    present at every crime scene contaminated with their
    personalised bacteria.

    Random collections of human alleles can be inserted into
    common bacteria found in homes, on human skin and within
    body cavities (causing bad breath, urinary infections,
    etc) or in the gut of birds, rodents, flies and household
    pets. They would eventually become widespread posing
    serious problems for agencies relying on DNA profiling to
    identify criminals.

    Apart from human allele sequences, plasmids could contain
    tens of thousands of modified PCR primer sequences. Their
    PCR amplification products would bind to the forward and
    reverse primers and to the template DNA primer sites
    thereby blocking the amplification of one or more targeted
    alleles.

    The fact that such bacteria exist (or might exist) could
    introduce difficulties for prosecutors and new defence
    arguments for those defendants against whom DNA evidence
    is adduced. It might also cause jurors to pause before
    accepting the myth of infallibility that has come to be
    associated with forensic DNA evidence.

    The next time someone discards a cigarette butt or a used
    tissue, he or she could become the most famous Joe Job
    victim on the planet.

    Author's details -
    scandals.orgpkindex.html

    DNA Evidence:
    - is it safe to convict?
    scandals.orgpk020929.html
    - science or smoke and mirrors?
    scandals.orgpk021019.html
    - potential panacea or pandemonium?
    scandals.orgpk021129.html RNAi:
    miracle cure, silent killer or weapon of mass
    destruction?
    scandals.orgpk030820.html

    Much easier to raid a target victim's rubbish outside their
    home. Then leave soiled tissue etc at your own scene-of-
    crime and leave the powers-that-be to make their usual mis-
    attributions.

    I'm surprised schools can delve so deeply into personal
    biology. Weren't schools forced to stop doing the basic A,B,
    O blood type determinations because too many students were
    suddenly finding they could not be related to one or both of
    their parents ?

    What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what
    Special Branch don't want you to know.
    nutteing2.freeservers.comdnapr.htm or nutteingd
    in a search engine

    email [email hidden].....uk (remove 4 of 5 dots)

  3. Paul Nutteing said:


    "Anon Poster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    DNA Joe Job

    Quoted message said:

    Much easier to raid a target victim's rubbish outside their
    home. Then leave soiled tissue etc at your own scene-of-
    crime and leave the powers-that-be to make their usual mis-
    attributions.

    I wasn't suggesting that anyone should frame someone else
    for their crimes. Just pointing out yet another way in which
    so-called infallible DNA profiling could be compromised (on
    a global scale) by mischievous biotech students or savvy
    criminals.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm surprised schools can delve so deeply into
    personal biology.

    Recombinant DNA is a well-established, widespread and
    commercially viable technology. It has to be taught and the
    kit is an effective tool for that purpose. Unfortunately, it
    can do more than it says on the packet.

    Incidentally, even if the educational kits were withdrawn,
    all the components can be purchased separately from many
    biotech reagent suppliers. They are essential research and
    development tools throughout the industry.

    Quoted message said:

    Weren't schools forced to stop doing the basic A,B, O blood
    type determinations because too many students were suddenly
    finding they could not be related to one or both of their
    parents ?

    Blood typing tests can be used to determine paternity,
    maternity and sibling relationships so I wouldn't be
    surprised if they were withdrawn from experimentation
    in schools.

    Quoted message said:

    What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what
    Special Branch don't want you to know.
    nutteing2.freeservers.comdnapr.htm or nutteingd
    in a search engine

    email [email hidden].....uk (remove 4 of 5 dots)

  4. #"Anon Poster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul Nutteing said:


    "Anon Poster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    DNA Joe Job

    Quoted message said:

    Much easier to raid a target victim's rubbish outside
    their home. Then leave soiled tissue etc at your own scene-of-
    crime and leave the powers-that-be to make their usual
    mis-attributions.

    I wasn't suggesting that anyone should frame someone else
    for their crimes. Just pointing out yet another way in
    which so-called infallible DNA profiling could be
    compromised (on a global scale) by mischievous biotech
    students or savvy criminals.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm surprised schools can delve so deeply into personal
    biology.

    Recombinant DNA is a well-established, widespread and
    commercially viable technology. It has to be taught and
    the kit is an effective tool for that purpose.
    Unfortunately, it can do more than it says on the packet.

    Incidentally, even if the educational kits were withdrawn,
    all the components can be purchased separately from many
    biotech reagent suppliers. They are essential research and
    development tools throughout the industry.

    Quoted message said:

    Weren't schools forced to stop doing the basic A,B, O
    blood type determinations because too many students were
    suddenly finding they could not be related to one or both
    of their parents ?

    Blood typing tests can be used to determine paternity,
    maternity and sibling relationships so I wouldn't be
    surprised if they were withdrawn from experimentation in
    schools.

    Quoted message said:

    What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what
    Special Branch don't want you to know.
    nutteing2.freeservers.comdnapr.htm or
    nutteingd in a search engine

    email [email hidden].....uk (remove 4 of 5 dots)


    A wonder if there is a provenance for this story ?oogle.co.uk/groups?selm=409F8C68.2FB5%40succeeds.com&oe=ISO-
    8 859-1&output=gplain or tinyurl.com2yfn4

    What they aren't telling you about DNA profiles and what
    Special Branch don't want you to know.
    nutteing2.freeservers.comdnapr.htm or nutteingd
    in a search engine

    email [email hidden].....uk (remove 4 of 5 dots)

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