dizzy when riding

Dwayne said:

Yes, I have used a Powerade mix a couple of times, but got
dizzy with and without it. What's interesting is, in the
afternoons, if I go on a ride, I don't get dizzy.

Morning sickness?

SCNR

Badger_South said:

In my case, go look at my pic at 50 and tell me what kind
of risk factors I have.

pbase.commediumOpen ↗

well, for starters the glasses in

pbase.comoriginalOpen ↗

are commonly referred to as BCGs (birth control glasses) in
the air force tho perhaps the effect was intended. are those
parachute pants? a digital watch?

ch-rist, man, how do you climb with all that unnecessary
upper body mass?
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

David Reuteler said:

Badger_South said:

In my case, go look at my pic at 50 and tell me what kind
of risk factors I have.

pbase.commediumOpen ↗

well, for starters the glasses in

pbase.comoriginalOpen ↗

are commonly referred to as BCGs (birth control glasses) in
the air force tho perhaps the effect was intended. are
those parachute pants? a digital watch?

Part dweeb, part muscle-head, trying to blend in with the
biking crowd, now. What's not to like? ;-p

Quoted message said:

ch-rist, man, how do you climb with all that unnecessary
upper body mass?

All the better to crush thine enemies, see them driven
before you, and hear the lamentations of their wimmens?

-B Yep, I asked for that. Set myself right up, I did (d'oh).

Badger_South said:

Quoted message said:

ch-rist, man, how do you climb with all that unnecessary
upper body mass?

All the better to crush thine enemies, see them driven
before you, and hear the lamentations of their wimmens?

thought so! this is why i give you upper body types such a
wide berth when i pass.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

David Reuteler said:

Badger_South said:

Quoted message said:

ch-rist, man, how do you climb with all that unnecessary
upper body mass?

All the better to crush thine enemies, see them driven
before you, and hear the lamentations of their wimmens?

thought so! this is why i give you upper body types such a
wide berth when i pass.

You may be passin' me now, but give me another year, you
young whippersnapper!

I did lose the geeky glasses, and went to contacts and a
nice pair of Optic Nerves, but my brother says I have a big
head, and when I stuff it in Styrofoam, well, let's just say
the snickering commenses! <g>

BTW, looks like you need to hire me on as a bodyguard. I got
some skillz in that area, plus the unnecessary upper body
mass intimidation thing goin' on, heh-heh.

visi.comouch.jpgOpen ↗

I'll get a new set with my Trek and all the biking gear when
I'm on vacation. The upper body has trimmed down a little
but the quads and calves are hyoouge. I think my calves are
like 18.5" cold, but need a little more defo.

-B BTW, nice bike
visi.comseven.jpgOpen ↗ You rule!

If you look at Human life from an evolutionary point there
is no need for humans to live longer than to procreate and
watch the children leave home. At that time Nature has no
need for us. So I doubt there are many gene pools in the
world set to promote extra long life and good health. Until
the last century, 60 years was about all the world could
expect even in 'modern countries'. We are of the first
generations we know of who can look forward to a life span
longer than any known in the last thousands of years.

Great for you and your father, I am glad you both are in
such good health! By the way how many of your fathers school
friends are still around and active? Do either of you know
any other 81 year old smokers? Do you smoke too?

You seem to have taken great offense to my thoughts, hmmm,
feeling a little stressed at times? Quite a rant for a post
not directed towards yourself don't you think? Hypertension
makes people react that way you know. Maybe you are not as
healthy as you want to believe and you could be one of those
walking time bombs?

Lucky for me I know the state of my health, and I am pretty
healthy compared to others my age. Only took two hours of
my time. Not a high price to pay for peace of mind don't
you think?

There was a funeral for a coworker last week. He was a young
34 year old gym rat with three kids six years old and under.
He went home, ate dinner, sat on the couch fell asleep and
when his wife went to wake him, he was not there. His heart
burst while he slept on the couch. Like it or not out bodies
break down and we die, simple as that. Some of us just last
longer than others is all.

Have you looked up the statistics of people who died from
the flu last year in the United States? How about smoking or
cancer? And I didn't even mention Jim F., imagine that. Now
that I did how many like him fall over each day that we
never hear about?

Ben A Gozar said:

If you look at Human life from an evolutionary point there
is no need for humans to live longer than to procreate and
watch the children leave home. At that time Nature has no
need for us. So I doubt there are many gene pools in the
world set to promote extra long life and good health. Until
the last century, 60 years was about all the world could
expect even in 'modern countries'. We are of the first
generations we know of who can look forward to a life span
longer than any known in the last thousands of years.

Teleological - no basis in fact, that I'm aware of. Guess
I'm lucky. My grandparents on both sides lived to 100,
greatgrandparents 95ish. My physical age seems to be about
5-10 years under the chronological age, for both my brother,
who at 45 looks 30, and me at 53, and I look about 40.

Quoted message said:

Great for you and your father, I am glad you both are in
such good health! By the way how many of your fathers
school friends are still around and active? Do either of
you know any other 81 year old smokers? Do you smoke too?

Nope. Don't drink booze, smoke, never have. Drank some beer
in college, but quit 25 years ago.

Quoted message said:

You seem to have taken great offense to my thoughts, hmmm,
feeling a little stressed at times?

Actually the rant was directed at Doctors, Ben, and not at
you at all. Sorry if that came through like that. Apologies.

Quoted message said:

Quite a rant for a post not directed towards yourself don't
you think?

Yeah. Briefly, I had a problem with the piriformis muscle
and went in for a work up and the so-called Sports Med doc
tried to insist I needed a total hip replacement and put me
through the wringer. I'm just about healed now, due to my
biking. I was in some serious pain, acutely, and his only
motive was to cut me up and buy a big screen TV. Again,
sorry for the rant. ;-)

Quoted message said:

Hypertension makes people react that way you know. Maybe
you are not as healthy as you want to believe and you could
be one of those walking time bombs?

I've had a full work up recently, including bone scan, BF%,
stress test, and you name it as part of a research project.
The guy who did the bone scan was sitting at the terminal
and went 'Jeeze!'. I'm laying on this table totally still
for like 20 min, and I go 'what? is something wrong'. He
goes, 'man you have the densest bones I've ever seen! I got
a copy of the scan and it looks like a scan of a gorilla - I
kid you not! Haha.

Take 'er easy man. Just be sure and get a second opinion on
anything a doc tells you. I worked in a hospital for 35
years and I've seen it all. (Pathologist, non-MD).

Best, -Badger

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Quoted message said:

Ben A Gozar said:

Below is the way I meant my note to be read. It was an
estimation of course, but we men aren't exactly known to
be running to the doctor at the rate of women. The sad
news is once we pass forty things go wrong and we men
tend to die off rather suddenly. Two of my friends went
in for a check up only for the doctors to have bp
readings on both of them of almost

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

visited my doctor for completely different problems I
could no longer ignore and I found out I am not 16 any
more. In the United States at least, I think the Doctor
may be closer to correct, than farther from it.

At any rate I do not have an informed opinion on whether
it is a true statement or not, I was just passing on what
was told to me.

Quoted message said:

When I read it, I gave it a totally different
interpretation than either of the above: For every man
that he sees in the office, he estimates there are 15
others with serious health problems who are not coming
in, and could be at serious risk.

And I'm saying that if you are active, have no obvious
risk, such as smoking, overweight, alcoholic, and soforth
that there's no reason to be this paranoid. Of course if
you walk down the street you'll see lots of examples of
couch potatoes walking out of bars, chain smoking. I'd say
90% of these guys are at significant risk. But without
doing a physical, guess what? I'd be pulling that
estimation out of my ass.

Certain risk factors might be predictable based on your
genetics - many black men have high blood pressure, and
for them, over 40, go get that checked. Otherwise, to
quote that kind of figure to any particular patient is a
scare tactic, and meaningless. You pretty much know your
risk factors,
b/c you know how you're abusing your body. But among a sub
group, such as bikers who have been doing it for 10
years and are lean and fit and active and don't overdo
their vices, would that be the case? My dad is 81,
active all his life, and has smoked a pack of unfiltered
cigs a day since he was 25, and still going strong - go
figure. In my case, go look at my pic at 50 and tell me
what kind of risk factors I have.

pbase.commediumOpen ↗

So, IMO, for your doc to say that is meaningless,
irresponsible (for making you paranoid, if it did) and he
could have said 9 out of 10 or 1 out of 100 and both been
right, depending on demographic.

I'll tell you what's dangerous, though. Go into any
hospital to have a minor procedure and your chances of
never coming out again are quite high, due to nosocomial
infection (hospital antibiotic resistant bugs), surgical
mistakes, and other misadventures. So I could say doctors
- stay the freak away from them, b/c you could be
misdiagnosed or they could just have seen a patient with
resistant strep and forgot to wash his hands. Did your doc
wash his hands before he left your exam room? He didn't?
OMG! ;-)

Go check out some sites that talk about 'what they don't
tell you about medical exams'. Do you know that the
devices they use for endoscopy and rectal exams can not be
properly sterilized? THat's right, the chances are good
that the last patient they scoped has left a little bit of
blood or body fluid inside the device and now it's inside
you. There's no known way to sterilize against prion
infections (mad cow), so if you have an operation, you
might be innoculated with CJD and not know it. What if
you're having an appendectomy and they nick an artery and
you have to get blood? Or the anesthesiologist gives you
the wrong gas (happened to my dad and they tried to cover
it up - he actually went into cardiac arrest b/c they gave
him 5 times the dose needed by mistake when he had a
kidney stone removed). See, it works both ways. ;-p

OK, sorry for the rant....

-B

Ok here's what happened this morning. I got up at 7:20 and
showered and got dressed and the entire time I was drinking
bottles of filtered water, about 3 bottles full, plus. Then
I ate a peanut butter granola bar and a small amount of
peanut butter for sustained energy. I checked my BP and it
was 129/92. I checked my blood sugar count with my wife's
kit and it was 102, before I ate anything (fasting). She
told me that was a fairly good reading, diabetes would be
130 - 200+, while fasting all night. then I took one 99 mg
potassium tablet and 3 cal/mag/zinc = 1000 mg total,
tablets. Then, I went riding for about 2 hours and rode
about 22 miles and the temp was about 77 with about 80 %
humid, the temp was normal but the humid. was a little less
than usual here. Everything went fine. I didn't get a bit
sick. I even pushed myself to do more and had no problems.
Even when my buddies wanted to turn back before it got too
hot, I wanted to go further but we turned back, probably a
good idea anyway, I thought. I rode all the way back with no
problems. then as soon as I got in the door at home, I check
my BP and it was 116/69. My heart rate was 98 BPM. I felt
perfectly fine and still full of energy. What gives? Was it
the potassium? WAs it the 3 bottles full of water before I
rode? Oh one more thing, during the ride I suddenly had to
"go". My bladder was full. So I stopped and did my business
and went on. Then when I got home I had to go again. That
doesn't usually happen.

You have a pretty good gene pool behind you, you are
very lucky!

All I was suggesting, that op see a doctor.

There are a lot of serious problems that show up as
something else. For example I drink a large amount of water.
I also live in the high desert which doesn't help. I think
it is better to know some things up front. Falling over in a
diabetic coma with no one around would not be fun imo. My
sugar is normal for my age, so it's just my body reacting
and to dry warm air.

It is a lot better imo for op to know that he is dizzy
from heat and warm water than something that should not
be ignored.

Thanks for the note.

"Ben A Gozar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

You have a pretty good gene pool behind you, you are
very lucky!

Who the hell are you talking to? Not one of your posts has
attributions or quotes for context.

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Dwayne said:

Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A Gozar said:

Below is the way I meant my note to be read. It was an
estimation of course, but we men aren't exactly known to
be running to the doctor at the rate of women. The sad
news is once we pass forty things go wrong and we men
tend to die off rather suddenly. Two of my friends went
in for a check up only for the doctors to have bp
readings on both of them of almost

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

visited my doctor for completely different problems I
could no longer ignore and I found out I am not 16 any
more. In the United States at least, I think the Doctor
may be closer to correct, than farther from it.

At any rate I do not have an informed opinion on whether
it is a true statement or not, I was just passing on what
was told to me.

>When I read it, I gave it a totally different
>interpretation than either of the above: For every man
>that he sees in the office, he estimates there are 15
>others with serious health problems who are not coming
>in, and could be at serious risk.
>

And I'm saying that if you are active, have no obvious
risk, such as smoking, overweight, alcoholic, and soforth
that there's no reason to be this paranoid. Of course if
you walk down the street you'll see lots of examples of
couch potatoes walking out of bars, chain smoking. I'd say
90% of these guys are at significant risk. But without
doing a physical, guess what? I'd be pulling that
estimation out of my ass.

Certain risk factors might be predictable based on your
genetics - many black men have high blood pressure, and
for them, over 40, go get that checked. Otherwise, to
quote that kind of figure to any particular patient is a
scare tactic, and meaningless. You pretty much know your
risk factors,
b/c you know how you're abusing your body. But among a sub
group, such as bikers who have been doing it for 10
years and are lean and fit and active and don't overdo
their vices, would that be the case? My dad is 81,
active all his life, and has smoked a pack of unfiltered
cigs a day since he was 25, and still going strong - go
figure. In my case, go look at my pic at 50 and tell me
what kind of risk factors I have.

pbase.commediumOpen ↗

So, IMO, for your doc to say that is meaningless,
irresponsible (for making you paranoid, if it did) and he
could have said 9 out of 10 or 1 out of 100 and both been
right, depending on demographic.

I'll tell you what's dangerous, though. Go into any
hospital to have a minor procedure and your chances of
never coming out again are quite high, due to nosocomial
infection (hospital antibiotic resistant bugs), surgical
mistakes, and other misadventures. So I could say doctors
- stay the freak away from them, b/c you could be
misdiagnosed or they could just have seen a patient with
resistant strep and forgot to wash his hands. Did your doc
wash his hands before he left your exam room? He didn't?
OMG! ;-)

Go check out some sites that talk about 'what they don't
tell you about medical exams'. Do you know that the
devices they use for endoscopy and rectal exams can not be
properly sterilized? THat's right, the chances are good
that the last patient they scoped has left a little bit of
blood or body fluid inside the device and now it's inside
you. There's no known way to sterilize against prion
infections (mad cow), so if you have an operation, you
might be innoculated with CJD and not know it. What if
you're having an appendectomy and they nick an artery and
you have to get blood? Or the anesthesiologist gives you
the wrong gas (happened to my dad and they tried to cover
it up - he actually went into cardiac arrest b/c they gave
him 5 times the dose needed by mistake when he had a
kidney stone removed). See, it works both ways. ;-p

OK, sorry for the rant....

-B

Ok here's what happened this morning. I got up at 7:20 and
showered and got dressed and the entire time I was drinking
bottles of filtered water, about 3 bottles full, plus. Then
I ate a peanut butter granola bar and a small amount of
peanut butter for sustained energy. I checked my BP and it
was 129/92. I checked my blood sugar count with my wife's
kit and it was 102, before I ate anything (fasting). She
told me that was a fairly good reading, diabetes would be
130 - 200+, while fasting all night. then I took one 99 mg
potassium tablet and 3 cal/mag/zinc = 1000 mg total,
tablets. Then, I went riding for about 2 hours and rode
about 22 miles and the temp was about 77 with about 80 %
humid, the temp was normal but the humid. was a little less
than usual here. Everything went fine. I didn't get a bit
sick. I even pushed myself to do more and had no problems.
Even when my buddies wanted to turn back before it got too
hot, I wanted to go further but we turned back, probably a
good idea anyway, I thought. I rode all the way back with
no problems. then as soon as I got in the door at home, I
check my BP and it was 116/69. My heart rate was 98 BPM. I
felt perfectly fine and still full of energy. What gives?
Was it the potassium? WAs it the 3 bottles full of water
before I rode? Oh one more thing, during the ride I
suddenly had to "go". My bladder was full. So I stopped and
did my business and went on. Then when I got home I had to
go again. That doesn't usually happen.

3 bottles of water, like 3 liters of water or 3 of 500 ml
(half liter) bottles?

If you drank 3 liters of water your body behaved perfectly
ok in my opinion. Did you drink at all on your ride? Sounds
like you should make a habit of hydrating more than you
usually do. I find being well watered keeps my head
clearer. Bernie

Obviously not to you or you would have been following
the thread?

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"Ben A Gozar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Obviously not to you or you would have been following
the thread?

You cannot safely assume that everyone reading your posts
has access to any prior posts in the thread, much less has
read and remembered all of them. Attributing, relevant
quoting for context and bottom-posting are all part of
Usenet etiquette for sound reasons.

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"DRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

You cannot safely assume that everyone reading your posts
has access to any prior posts in the thread, much less has
read and remembered all of them. Attributing, relevant
quoting for context and bottom-posting are all part of
Usenet etiquette for sound reasons.

I may assume that most people are using a proper news reader
or know how to use Google? A capsulated catch up...

OP gets dizzy towards the end of ride

Someone decides to practice medicine via newsgroup perhaps
w/ out a license? I have a problem with this for obvious
reasons. I sure hope this is not SOP.

I suggest OP see a doctor.

Someone takes offense that I suggest OP see a doctor.

I question the tone of that post and the validity of some
statements that were made as they may or may not apply to
the human race.

Someone questions my source on a point I made about a
hypertension. symptom.

I recite personal experience and apologise for an inference
that wasn't meant.

You jump in.

So here we are still talking about an off post subject, but
at least everyone now is updated.

Please let me apologise again for not including and
updating all readers on a minor off topic post that was
meant for a few individuals (who may not have used a valid
email address - which is a usenet violation and makes it
impossible to have a private email discussion) and not for
the whole group.

Can we let this thread die now or at least bring it
back to OP?

"Ben A Gozar" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
"]news:[email hidden]

Quoted message said:

"DRS" <[email hidden]> wrote in
:"]news:[email hidden]:

Quoted message said:

You cannot safely assume that everyone reading your posts
has access to any prior posts in the thread, much less
has read and remembered all of them. Attributing,
relevant quoting for context and bottom-posting are all
part of Usenet etiquette for sound reasons.

I may assume that most people are using a proper news
reader or know how to use Google? A capsulated catch up...

OP gets dizzy towards the end of ride

Someone decides to practice medicine via newsgroup perhaps
w/ out a license? I have a problem with this for obvious
reasons. I sure hope this is not SOP.

I suggest OP see a doctor.

Someone takes offense that I suggest OP see a doctor.

I question the tone of that post and the validity of some
statements that were made as they may or may not apply to
the human race.

Someone questions my source on a point I made about a
hypertension. symptom.

I recite personal experience and apologise for an
inference that wasn't meant.

You jump in.

Welcome to Usenet.

Quoted message said:

So here we are still talking about an off post subject,
but at least everyone now is updated.

Please let me apologise again for not including and
updating all readers on a minor off topic post that was
meant for a few individuals (who may not have used a valid
email address - which is a

Usenet forums are for everybody. There's no such thing as a
private discussion on Usenet.

Quoted message said:

usenet violation and makes it impossible to have a private
email discussion) and not for the whole group.

Quoted message said:

Can we let this thread die now or at least bring it
back to OP?

Sure, now that the rest of us can follow what's going on.

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On 11 Jul 2004 15:38:15 GMT, Ben A Gozar <[email hidden]> wrote:

(who may not have used a valid email address - which is a
usenet
violation and makes it impossible to have a private email
discussion)

Many people do not appreciate an unsolicited email. With the
problem of spam and virii and trojans, unknown email is
typically deleted unread, anyway, at least by me.

-B

Badger_South said:

BTW, looks like you need to hire me on as a bodyguard. I
got some skillz in that area, plus the unnecessary upper
body mass intimidation thing goin' on, heh-heh.
visi.comouch.jpgOpen ↗

egads i must remember to purge the old photos. here's a
better one from my frustrated, overstressed grad school days
about 6 years later (& 8 years ago).

visi.comreudi2.jpgOpen ↗

;-)

actually, that also sums up how i feel about my grad school
experience.

Quoted message said:

I'll get a new set with my Trek and all the biking gear
when I'm on vacation. The upper body has trimmed down a
little but the quads and calves are hyoouge. I think my
calves are like 18.5" cold, but need a little more defo.

not, uhh, really into measuring body parts but i'm pretty
sure i don't have 18" calves (but i got killer definition).
on the plus i do have larger biceps than tyler. ;-) for me &
my riding it ain't the legs that give out, it's the cardio.

Quoted message said:

BTW, nice bike
visi.comseven.jpgOpen ↗ You rule!

that's my baby. she eats road bikes for breakfast,
lunch & dinner.
--
david reuteler [email hidden]

David Reuteler said:

Badger_South said:

BTW, looks like you need to hire me on as a bodyguard. I
got some skillz in that area, plus the unnecessary upper
body mass intimidation thing goin' on, heh-heh.
visi.comouch.jpgOpen ↗

egads i must remember to purge the old photos. here's a
better one from my frustrated, overstressed grad school
days about 6 years later (& 8 years ago).

I forgot the story. Did ya get socked? That's a great photo
with your friends all mugging btw.

Quoted message said:

visi.comreudi2.jpgOpen ↗

;-)

Ah, digitally going through the prime numbers.

Quoted message said:

actually, that also sums up how i feel about my grad school
experience.

Quoted message said:

I'll get a new set with my Trek and all the biking gear
when I'm on vacation. The upper body has trimmed down a
little but the quads and calves are hyoouge. I think my
calves are like 18.5" cold, but need a little more defo.

not, uhh, really into measuring body parts but i'm pretty
sure i don't have 18" calves (but i got killer
definition). on the plus i do have larger biceps than
tyler. ;-) for me & my riding it ain't the legs that give
out, it's the cardio.

Taping biceps measurements and calves is a hold over from
the weight training/bodybuilder days. For me, depending on
terrain, legs and cardio both improving. My 25 and 33 y.o.
self from the past would still kick my current 53y.o. asses
ass, but I'm gaining on 'em. ;-D

Back then I just rode - no real concept in my 20s of
'training'. We just rode. (I was 150lb then, too.)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

BTW, nice bike
visi.comseven.jpgOpen ↗ You rule!

that's my baby. she eats road bikes for breakfast, lunch
& dinner.

I bet. So where you riding these days?

-B

Dwayne,

Well this is excellent news! It sounds like things
are going better. Of course, the temperature being a
bit lower certainly helps. If all of this worked,
then I think you should continue to follow the
formula. I doubt that the potassium made any
difference. Likely keeping hydrated did make a
difference. Also, the fact that you had to go to the
bathroom a lot is good too. It means that your body
is well-hydrated. Perhaps your first dizzying ride
was a little more intense than what you were used
to. If you weren't used to riding this hard, the
body can sometimes go into a sort of shock when it's
put under heavy physical activity. Keep us updated.

- Muskie

Dwayne said:

Badger_South <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:<[email hidden]>...

Quoted message said:

Ben A Gozar said:

Below is the way I meant my note to be read. It was an
estimation of course, but we men aren't exactly known to
be running to the doctor at the rate of women. The sad
news is once we pass forty things go wrong and we men
tend to die off rather suddenly. Two of my friends went
in for a check up only for the doctors to have bp
readings on both of them of almost

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

visited my doctor for completely different problems I
could no longer ignore and I found out I am not 16 any
more. In the United States at least, I think the Doctor
may be closer to correct, than farther from it.

At any rate I do not have an informed opinion on whether
it is a true statement or not, I was just passing on what
was told to me.

>When I read it, I gave it a totally different
>interpretation than either of the above: For every man
>that he sees in the office, he estimates there are 15
>others with serious health problems who are not coming
>in, and could be at serious risk.

And I'm saying that if you are active, have no obvious
risk, such as smoking, overweight, alcoholic, and soforth
that there's no reason to be this paranoid. Of course if
you walk down the street you'll see lots of examples of
couch potatoes walking out of bars, chain smoking. I'd say
90% of these guys are at significant risk. But without
doing a physical, guess what? I'd be pulling that
estimation out of my ass.

Certain risk factors might be predictable based on your
genetics - many black men have high blood pressure, and
for them, over 40, go get that checked. Otherwise, to
quote that kind of figure to any particular patient is a
scare tactic, and meaningless. You pretty much know your
risk factors,
b/c you know how you're abusing your body. But among a sub
group, such as bikers who have been doing it for 10
years and are lean and fit and active and don't overdo
their vices, would that be the case? My dad is 81,
active all his life, and has smoked a pack of unfiltered
cigs a day since he was 25, and still going strong - go
figure. In my case, go look at my pic at 50 and tell me
what kind of risk factors I have.

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So, IMO, for your doc to say that is meaningless,
irresponsible (for making you paranoid, if it did) and he
could have said 9 out of 10 or 1 out of 100 and both been
right, depending on demographic.

I'll tell you what's dangerous, though. Go into any
hospital to have a minor procedure and your chances of
never coming out again are quite high, due to nosocomial
infection (hospital antibiotic resistant bugs), surgical
mistakes, and other misadventures. So I could say doctors
- stay the freak away from them, b/c you could be
misdiagnosed or they could just have seen a patient with
resistant strep and forgot to wash his hands. Did your doc
wash his hands before he left your exam room? He didn't?
OMG! ;-)

Go check out some sites that talk about 'what they don't
tell you about medical exams'. Do you know that the
devices they use for endoscopy and rectal exams can not be
properly sterilized? THat's right, the chances are good
that the last patient they scoped has left a little bit of
blood or body fluid inside the device and now it's inside
you. There's no known way to sterilize against prion
infections (mad cow), so if you have an operation, you
might be innoculated with CJD and not know it. What if
you're having an appendectomy and they nick an artery and
you have to get blood? Or the anesthesiologist gives you
the wrong gas (happened to my dad and they tried to cover
it up - he actually went into cardiac arrest b/c they gave
him 5 times the dose needed by mistake when he had a
kidney stone removed). See, it works both ways. ;-p

OK, sorry for the rant....

-B

Ok here's what happened this morning. I got up at 7:20 and
showered and got dressed and the entire time I was
drinking bottles of filtered water, about 3 bottles full,
plus. Then I ate a peanut butter granola bar and a small
amount of peanut butter for sustained energy. I checked my
BP and it was 129/92. I checked my blood sugar count with
my wife's kit and it was 102, before I ate anything
(fasting). She told me that was a fairly good reading,
diabetes would be 130 - 200+, while fasting all night.
then I took one 99 mg potassium tablet and 3 cal/mag/zinc
= 1000 mg total, tablets. Then, I went riding for about 2
hours and rode about 22 miles and the temp was about 77
with about 80 % humid, the temp was normal but the humid.
was a little less than usual here. Everything went fine. I
didn't get a bit sick. I even pushed myself to do more and
had no problems. Even when my buddies wanted to turn back
before it got too hot, I wanted to go further but we
turned back, probably a good idea anyway, I thought. I
rode all the way back with no problems. then as soon as I
got in the door at home, I check my BP and it was 116/69.
My heart rate was 98 BPM. I felt perfectly fine and still
full of energy. What gives? Was it the potassium? WAs it
the 3 bottles full of water before I rode? Oh one more
thing, during the ride I suddenly had to "go". My bladder
was full. So I stopped and did my business and went on.
Then when I got home I had to go again. That doesn't
usually happen.

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On 11 Jul 2004 15:38:15 GMT, Ben A Gozar
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(who may not have used a valid email address - which is a
usenet
violation and makes it impossible to have a private email
discussion)

Many people do not appreciate an unsolicited email. With
the problem of spam and virii and trojans, unknown email
is typically deleted unread, anyway, at least by me.

Yes, using an unmunged email address on Usenet is just
asking for trouble.

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