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  1. This thread is in disarray.

    barnstorm said:

    I really do hate to get in between you children and your silly squabbles when there is actualy cycling news to discuss, I also hate to defend Musette at all because that is clearly just not done. But I did look back at Musett's post about 2 stages at LBL. Indeed she did write that. Was it a typo, mistake, or lack of knowledge.... not sure. But what is clear is that it took two full days and 27 posts for Patch to catch what she had said. During that time, Patch had three other posts on the thread and Lim had seven. WBT, who started the thread, didn't jump in at all. What's the message here? People in glass houses should not throw stones? perhaps. Before you go back nine months to slam someone, make sure you were awake and not looking like a moron at the same time. Now, I sure I am not the only one who gets very little sleep in July but......there is nothing more to say here.... move along.

  2. whiteboytrash said:

    This thread is in disarray.


    the fingernail clippers cut deep.......

  3. Bjørn P.Dal said:

    Ahhh! 😄

    GIYF: http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hs=EFM&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingforums.com%2F+musette+Liege+Baston+Liege&btnG=Search

    Two Stages, Liege Baston Liege ... http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?referrerid=96530&t=262425

    heh heh heh 😄

  4. Bjørn P.Dal said:

    Ahhh! 😄

    GIYF: http://www.google.com/search?num=50&hs=EFM&hl=en&lr=&safe=off&c2coff=1&client=opera&rls=en&q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.cyclingforums.com%2F+musette+Liege+Baston+Liege&btnG=Search

    Two Stages, Liege Baston Liege ... http://www.cyclingforums.com/showthread.php?referrerid=96530&t=262425

    Very good Bjørn !

  5. musette said:

    That perception on the part of a poster would make their pain, when I destroy their comments contrary to mine, all the more stinging, wouldn't it?


    The only thing that you destroy is your last couple of neurones.
    Given more recent posts, you may want to take these words back.

  6. barnstorm said:

    I really do hate to get in between you children<snip>


    We can't really be held responsible for missing yet another stupid error if we generally ignore her posts.

  7. According to the Paceline.com Discovery's next race is 3 days De Panne and they will be sending there "A" squad of Michael Barry, Roger Hammond, Matt White, Max Van Heeswijk, George Hincapie, Stijn Devolder, Viatchslev Ekimov, and Leif Hoste. With Dirk Demol, directing

    Historically, Team USPS / Discovery Channel has had stellar results at 3 Days for the last eight years:

    [font=Verdana]1996 - Ekimov #1 (riding for Rabobank)
    1998 - Ekimov #3
    2000 - Ekimov #1
    2001 - Ekimov #3
    2002 - Hincapie #3
    2004 - Hincapie #1
    2005 - Devolder #1 [/font]

    If Discovery fails at the 3 days of de Panne then they will really be in disarray.

    There will be little hope of salvaging the season in classics or Grand Tours. We await the results of the race which begins tomorrow....

  8. whiteboytrash said:

    According to the Paceline.com Discovery's next race is 3 days De Panne and they will be sending there "A" squad of Michael Barry, Roger Hammond, Matt White, Max Van Heeswijk, George Hincapie, Stijn Devolder, Viatchslev Ekimov, and Leif Hoste. With Dirk Demol, directing

    Historically, Team USPS / Discovery Channel has had stellar results at 3 Days for the last eight years:

    [font=Verdana]1996 - Ekimov #1 (riding for Rabobank)
    1998 - Ekimov #3
    2000 - Ekimov #1
    2001 - Ekimov #3
    2002 - Hincapie #3
    2004 - Hincapie #1
    2005 - Devolder #1 [/font]

    If Discovery fails at the 3 days of de Panne then they will really be in disarray.

    There will be little hope of salvaging the season in classics or Grand Tours. We await the results of the race which begins tomorrow....


    Await no longer, Hoste delivers!

  9. hombredesubaru said:

    Await no longer, Hoste delivers!

    And wins the world's ugliest trophy - he can't even force a smile:

    Leif'sTrophy

  10. DiabloScott said:

    And wins the world's ugliest trophy - he can't even force a smile:

    Leif'sTrophy

    LOL.... What in the name of Mike is that thing ?

    lw

  11. You do know Boonen was relaxing in the peloton, don't you......:p

    hombredesubaru said:

    Await no longer, Hoste delivers!

  12. MJtje said:

    You do know Boonen was relaxing in the peloton, don't you......:p


    True that, but then I read that he was up all night coughing with a cold.
    We'll see. Maybe THAT is a bluff too.

  13. OK, I know this thread has been yet another silly reason for the usual suspects to battle over who can come up with the most far fetched argument over a topic that has little relevance.... but find another reason. Save your posts here for a thread about actual cycling races... plenty to choose from.

    Evidence of Disarray???

    Results

    1 Leif Hoste (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 14.17.99 (48.2 km/h)
    2 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.13.91
    3 Stijn Devolder (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.17.90
    4 Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) Quickstep-Innergetic 0.26.12
    5 Bert Roesems (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 0.29.76
    6 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.33.51
    7 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.33.60
    8 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Française des Jeux
    9 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Unibet.com 0.38.33
    10 Enrico Franzoi (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 0.40.35
    11 Michael Barry (Can) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.42.14
    12 Marc Wauters (Bel) Rabobank 0.46.57
    13 Jan Boven (Ned) Rabobank 0.50.53
    14 Viatcheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.51.91
    15 Nico Eeckhout (Bel) Chocolade Jacques-Topsport Vlaanderen 0.56.02

    Final general classification
    1 Leif Hoste (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 13.17.03
    2 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Française des Jeux 0.30
    3 Luis Leos Sanchez Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 1.05
    4 Sebastien Rosseler (Bel) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.08
    5 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.25
    6 Steven De Jongh (Ned) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.34
    7 Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 1.51
    8 Stijn Devolder (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.52
    9 Enrico Franzoi (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.15
    10 Claudio Corioni (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.35

  14. You're right...

    Sébastien Rosseler and Bert Roesems are noted TT'ers.... they were hard to beat on the day...... the field was a star studded lineup....... there is more disarray than the post war effort in Iraq ! :p

    barnstorm said:

    OK, I know this thread has been yet another silly reason for the usual suspects to battle over who can come up with the most far fetched argument over a topic that has little relevance.... but find another reason. Save your posts here for a thread about actual cycling races... plenty to choose from.

    Evidence of Disarray???

    Results

    1 Leif Hoste (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 14.17.99 (48.2 km/h)
    2 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.13.91
    3 Stijn Devolder (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.17.90
    4 Sébastien Rosseler (Bel) Quickstep-Innergetic 0.26.12
    5 Bert Roesems (Bel) Davitamon-Lotto 0.29.76
    6 Jose Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.33.51
    7 Luis Leon Sanchez Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 0.33.60
    8 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Française des Jeux
    9 Frank Vandenbroucke (Bel) Unibet.com 0.38.33
    10 Enrico Franzoi (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 0.40.35
    11 Michael Barry (Can) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.42.14
    12 Marc Wauters (Bel) Rabobank 0.46.57
    13 Jan Boven (Ned) Rabobank 0.50.53
    14 Viatcheslav Ekimov (Rus) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 0.51.91
    15 Nico Eeckhout (Bel) Chocolade Jacques-Topsport Vlaanderen 0.56.02

    Final general classification
    1 Leif Hoste (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 13.17.03
    2 Bernhard Eisel (Aut) Française des Jeux 0.30
    3 Luis Leos Sanchez Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 1.05
    4 Sebastien Rosseler (Bel) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.08
    5 George Hincapie (USA) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.25
    6 Steven De Jongh (Ned) Quick Step-Innergetic 1.34
    7 Joaquin Rojas Gil (Spa) Liberty Seguros-Würth Team 1.51
    8 Stijn Devolder (Bel) Discovery Channel Pro Cycling Team 1.52
    9 Enrico Franzoi (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.15
    10 Claudio Corioni (Ita) Lampre-Fondital 2.35

  15. If you consider that Boonen is unbeateable, Disco going 2-3 in Flanders is huge and speaks to the talent of the team.
    No disarray.

  16. The result of De Ronde isn't showing any disarray, but see what Hincapie said about Hoste's attack...
    It seems they are in some sort of disarray after all.

  17. Jupp.. big G sure didnt see that attack comming, talk about chaos! Using Rumsfeldts "Shock and Awe" on your own team mates.. this really underlines the management problems within the team.

  18. Seabn Kelly commenting at RVV approaching the third climb said "DS shouldn't be at the front this early in the race". Camera panned across Matt White, Hincapie etc.
    Sean Kelly "they should be back further in the pack - Boonen and Quick Step are in the right position in the main group" - this was with 89kms to the finish.
    Sean kelly "Matt White is working very hard by the looks of things".

    Then Quick Step made their move approaching the Koppenberg : Bettini moved up with Pozatto : Sean Kelly "Bettini is starting to apply the pressure - no sign of Petacchi, Zabel is starting to drop too and DS are slipping".
    At the Koppenberg Sean Kelly "Boonen is going really well - his break is perfect"
    Shot to the main field doing cyclo-cross - Hincapie gets off the bike and is walking.

    Tactically, DS didn't get it right as regards trying for overall victory.
    QuickStep got it 100% right : does spell tactical issues for DS.

  19. limerickman said:

    Seabn Kelly commenting at RVV approaching the third climb said "DS shouldn't be at the front this early in the race". Camera panned across Matt White, Hincapie etc.
    Sean Kelly "they should be back further in the pack - Boonen and Quick Step are in the right position in the main group" - this was with 89kms to the finish.
    Sean kelly "Matt White is working very hard by the looks of things".

    Then Quick Step made their move approaching the Koppenberg : Bettini moved up with Pozatto : Sean Kelly "Bettini is starting to apply the pressure - no sign of Petacchi, Zabel is starting to drop too and DS are slipping".
    At the Koppenberg Sean Kelly "Boonen is going really well - his break is perfect"
    Shot to the main field doing cyclo-cross - Hincapie gets off the bike and is walking.

    Tactically, DS didn't get it right as regards trying for overall victory.
    QuickStep got it 100% right : does spell tactical issues for DS.


    Hoste's view: "It's already some time that I've been saying that you should attack if you want to win. Men who wait are not right. OK, I didn't win but still..."

    Hincapie tells Eurosport: "If I would have known he was attacking, maybe I could have gone with him"

    Hmm, the team leader doesn't know what the domestiques are doing? Sounds like disarray to me....Maybe Hoste should look for a new team where attacking rather than following is encouraged - Lotto could do with some added Classics firepower...

  20. hombredesubaru said:

    If you consider that Boonen is unbeateable, Disco going 2-3 in Flanders is huge and speaks to the talent of the team.
    No disarray.

    2-3 was good but its not 1st and thats the only thing that matters. I'm also sure Hincapie and Hoste won't be sharing a room tonight.... there is a lot of infighting going on at Disco and Hincapie is the Jan Ullrich of the classics.... he just can't win and his tactics are [censored]..... I can see the team crumbling like a cheap Danish pastry from here..... QuickStep already have two ProTours wins and Disco have none. Disarray.

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