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Dieting? Don't Give Up Protein

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  1. In this study the best combination of macro nutrients for weight loss were
    fewer carbs and more protein and not more fat. When protein is added we
    tend to add fat because many sources come as a package, choose lower fat
    sources of protein, including vegetable proteins. Substituting less
    saturated fats with less saturated decreases other health risks along with
    weight loss.
    An added effect came with those who increased protein and increased
    exercise, more then those who also added exercise but ate more carbs or
    fat:

    http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20050910/food.asp

  2. The usual needle of truth in a haystack of lies. High quality protein
    is very important, and boiled eggs and whole milk, unpasteurized dairy
    is usually fine (stay away from additives - carrageenana, locust bean,
    guar, carob, etc.), but vegetable soures of protein are usually
    difficult to digest and of poor quality. The stuff about "saturated
    fat" is like vomit - it is regurgitated and very unpleasant. Ask
    Asians who eat tons of the most saturated fat food of all time why they
    live so long and have very little "chronic disease,
    even though they have iron levels.

    What you are reading in that article is something that doesn't have a
    name, but came from a nutrition textbook. In biology, various claims
    are connected to a theory, such as the theory of evolution (natural
    selection, genetics, etc.). Denham Harman put forth a free radical
    theory of aging in the 1970s, and at this point, it is THE theory. All
    other ideas are subsumed within the free radical theory, such as "the
    homocysteine revolution," for example. Saturated fatty acids do not
    degrade the way unsaturated acids often do in the body, especially in
    the context of common Western diets. Thus, fresh coconut oil is one of
    the healthiest things you can eat, while the highly unsaturated oil
    that are sold in a refined form are the most unhealthy (vegetable,
    corn, soy, canola, safflower, sunflower, flax, fish, etc.). There are
    plenty of old studies were animals were fed such oils and died much
    younger than was expected, often of cancer. The "studies" of today are
    based on flawed or incorrect assumptions. For example, many foods are
    called "heart healthy" because they lower cholesterol, yet they oxidize
    cholesterol too, and it is now known that only oxidized cholesterol is
    dangerous. All the old claims about "saturated fat" "raising
    cholesterol" is irrelevant. If a food tenjds to oxidize cholesterol,
    you should stay away from it, period. If a food raises cholesterol a
    bit but does not oxidize it (like fresh coconut oil) it is fine, and
    may be very healthy.

    I have challanged many on this newsgroup to put up money to do an
    animals experiment that would be directly on point, just like the older
    experiments were, but so far, nobody will even explain why they won't
    take me up on my offer.

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