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Diet when trying to gain.

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  1. I'm trying to gain a little weight and build a little muscle with it. I
    try to eat healthy by limiting my refined/concentrated sugar intake (no
    more than 10% of total calories for the day, but usually I don't even
    reach that), limiting refined flours to a 'once in awhile' or
    'restaurant' thing, eating only from lean protein sources whenever
    possible, and only buying lowfat dairy products for the house. This is
    not to say that I don't ever go out to eat and order something with
    full-fat cheese on it, or white bread, but all the food in the house
    follows these guidelines and I cook most of the time.

    Snacks are things like protein bars, nuts, dried fruits, nonfat plain
    or reduced-sugar and nonfat vanilla yogurt (Dannon Light 'n Fit) with
    some add-ins like protein powder or fruit, regular oatmeal with protein
    powder, homemade protein shake, banana and/or peanut butter, peanut
    butter and banana or apple, apple and cheese, peanut butter sandwiches,
    grilled turkey and/or cheese (no butter or oil, just on the George
    Foreman), beef or turkey jerky, a modest bowl of high-protein and fiber
    cereal like Kashi Go-lean or Hi-Lo-- you get the idea. A lot of times
    my "snacks" are like small meals, like the grilled cheese, pb sandwich
    or oatmeal, so I eat more times during the day.

    That said, I was wondering how frequently one can allow himself to eat
    unhealthy foods when trying to gain weight in the form of muscle. For
    example: a cafe brownie, a modest order of boneless buffalo wings, some
    plain cheese pizza, homemade cookies. Just the things that one enjoys
    outside of the understood 'splurges' like Christmas and birthday
    parties. If my diet is generally healthy, how often can I allow myself
    to indulge in foods I enjoy, with appropriate portion control (e.g. one
    cup of full-fat ice cream,,not the whole pint). It seems that one
    should be just as meticulous as he would be when dieting to lose
    weight, and that (sadly) only maintenance would allow such indulgences
    on more than a monthly basis. I guess I'm just wondering-- how much is
    too much? I spent so long restricting my calories and losing weight (I
    dieted unnecessarily and ended up with a BMI of 17.5 or so; was never
    overweight to begin with, despite my terrible eating habits of
    late-night pizza and subs) that it would be nice to say, "hey! I HAVE
    to gain weight! Let me eat!" but that still seems too detrimental to my
    goal.

    Thanks..

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    That said, I was wondering how frequently one can allow himself to eat
    unhealthy foods when trying to gain weight in the form of muscle. For
    example: a cafe brownie, a modest order of boneless buffalo wings, some
    plain cheese pizza, homemade cookies. Just the things that one enjoys
    outside of the understood 'splurges' like Christmas and birthday
    parties. If my diet is generally healthy, how often can I allow myself
    to indulge in foods I enjoy, with appropriate portion control (e.g. one
    cup of full-fat ice cream,,not the whole pint). It seems that one
    should be just as meticulous as he would be when dieting to lose
    weight, and that (sadly) only maintenance would allow such indulgences
    on more than a monthly basis. I guess I'm just wondering-- how much is
    too much? I spent so long restricting my calories and losing weight (I
    dieted unnecessarily and ended up with a BMI of 17.5 or so; was never
    overweight to begin with, despite my terrible eating habits of
    late-night pizza and subs) that it would be nice to say, "hey! I HAVE
    to gain weight! Let me eat!" but that still seems too detrimental to my
    goal.

    Thanks..

    Eat lots of protein, eat healthy foods, if you want to gain weight eat more
    calories than you expend, and take a day off every now and again and
    eat junk food, it ain't gonna hurt you.

  3. Geezer has it right, set a cheat day. I always had Sunday as my cheat
    day. Just because family would always has [censored] loads of food, sports
    are on these days, and plus it is part of the weekend.
    It sounds like you have it down pretty good. I would cycle my eating
    patterns. Eat alot of calories for two weeks (3000-4500), and two
    weeks of a maintanence calorie intake (1000-2000). All of these
    numbers depends on your height, weight, and BMI, and probably other
    things too. It is a science, and it is a tough one too.

  4. Quoted message said:

    I'm trying to gain a little weight and build a little muscle with it. I
    try to eat healthy by limiting my refined/concentrated sugar intake (no
    more than 10% of total calories for the day, but usually I don't even
    reach that), limiting refined flours to a 'once in awhile' or
    'restaurant' thing,

    I am no nutritionist, but I have a ridiculously high metabolism and have
    been trying to gain weight for yours. I have tried everything, including
    overeating junk food. For the last 7-8 years, I have totally cut out
    refined sugar due to hypoglycemia and rely on a high protein diet. Even
    fruit sugars make me dizzy, so I've been pretty low on all sugars. Last
    summer, I found a fruit juice that had less sweetness and didn't bother
    me as much, so I started drinking 6 oz with lunch and dinner. I put on a
    few pounds quickly, and have gained 1 pound a month since. It isn't
    super fast, but I was stuck at 5'2" 95 pounds for over ten years, so I
    am delighted. I have gained about 10% of my previous weight and am now
    looking to gain muscle to help reach my goal.
    Anyway, the moral of the story- fruit juice, especially home made for
    full vitamin benefits. Someone else I know started home juicing for the
    vitamin benefits, and had to slow down because she was packing on weight
    really quickly.

    mjoann

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    homemade cookies. Just the things that one enjoys

    Homemade can be better than store cookies. For instance I would
    definately at least substitute processed sugar for raw sugar. That
    should barely alter the taste. You can also experiment with other
    things like using protein powder. I believe some recipes even
    substitute the flower for it. Another bonus is keeping out all the
    hydrogenated [censored].

    Eric

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