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Dermatitis and the Bromine system

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  1. Hey,

    I don't quite understand the bromine system for spas. We received our brand new spa last week. We
    filled it up and jumped right in. We started adding the chems a day later but the water had already
    gotten cloudy and never really cleared up. I was doing heavy shock treatments (or so I thought) and
    water clarifier. But in only a week we both got
    pseudomonas dermatitis (hot tub rash) and had to see our doc for meds.

    I've drained and washed and cleaned the whole tub and filled it up again. This time I added the
    chems right away. All my levels are good on Bromine, pH, and AL but the free chlorine part of my
    test strip is still blank. Does a Bromine sanitized spa have a free chlorine level? If so how do I
    bring it higher?

    A nice killer dose of Calcium Hypochlorite (chlorine shock) is always thing of beauty in my swimming
    pool but I don't understand what the "antibacterial agent" is supposed to be in the Bromine system
    (with a non-chlorine shocking product).

    Can anyone help? thanks!

  2. Quoted message said:

    A nice killer dose of Calcium Hypochlorite (chlorine shock) is always thing of beauty in my
    swimming pool but I don't understand what the "antibacterial agent" is supposed to be in the
    Bromine system (with a non-chlorine shocking product).

    Can anyone help? thanks!

    I swim at a 24 Hour Fitness Center where they use bromine in the pool and hot tub. Maybe if there is
    one in your area you could ask the person in charge of keeping their systems going.

    Pat in TX

  3. (John Morga) said:

    Hey,

    I don't quite understand the bromine system for spas. We received our brand new spa last week. We
    filled it up and jumped right in. We started adding the chems a day later but the water had
    already gotten cloudy and never really cleared up. I was doing heavy shock treatments (or so I
    thought) and water clarifier. But in only a week we both got
    pseudomonas dermatitis (hot tub rash) and had to see our doc for meds.

    I've drained and washed and cleaned the whole tub and filled it up again. This time I added the
    chems right away. All my levels are good on Bromine, pH, and AL but the free chlorine part of my
    test strip is still blank. Does a Bromine sanitized spa have a free chlorine level? If so how do I
    bring it higher?

    A nice killer dose of Calcium Hypochlorite (chlorine shock) is always thing of beauty in my
    swimming pool but I don't understand what the "antibacterial agent" is supposed to be in the
    Bromine system (with a non-chlorine shocking product).

    Can anyone help? thanks!


    Bromine is a sustitute for chlorine so you won't get measurable chlorine. the bromine is the
    antibacterial agent. I presume your supplier should have supplied you with the necessary
    instructions and kit. Go back to them.
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  4. [email hidden] (John Morga) wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hey,

    I don't quite understand the bromine system for spas. We received our brand new spa last week. We
    filled it up and jumped right in. We started adding the chems a day later but the water had
    already gotten cloudy and never really cleared up. I was doing heavy shock treatments (or so I
    thought) and water clarifier. But in only a week we both got
    pseudomonas dermatitis (hot tub rash) and had to see our doc for meds.

    I've drained and washed and cleaned the whole tub and filled it up again. This time I added the
    chems right away. All my levels are good on Bromine, pH, and AL but the free chlorine part of my
    test strip is still blank. Does a Bromine sanitized spa have a free chlorine level?

    No.

    Quoted message said:

    If so how do I bring it higher?

    A nice killer dose of Calcium Hypochlorite (chlorine shock) is always thing of beauty in my
    swimming pool but I don't understand what the "antibacterial agent" is supposed to be in the
    Bromine system (with a non-chlorine shocking product).

    The Bromine (hypobromous acid, to be accurate) is the "antibacterial agent" (known in the trade as
    the "sanitizer" because it kills not only bacteria but also other pathogens such as viruses and
    protista).

    The non-chlorine shocking product (usually potassium monopersulfate) performs two purposes in a
    bromine-sanitized spa:

    1) it re-activates the spent bromine (As the hypobromous acid performs its sanitizing function, it
    is converted into other less potent forms of bromine compounds. The oxidizer converts it back
    into the more active form (hypobromous acid)

    and

    2) it oxides organic waste (to clear the water and remove the food source for the pathogens).

    Notice that the purpose of a "shock" is NOT to act as a "killer dose", even in your swimming pool.
    In your chlorine-based swimming pool, the purpose of shock is to BREAK DOWN CHLORAMINES in the
    water. Chloramines are the "spent" form of chlorine, and they smell bad, and they are not useful
    sanitizers or oxidizers. When a pool has a strong chlorine smell, it means it has a high level of
    chloramines, and is not being maintained properly.

    You can also shock your bromine spa with chlorine if you want, but most people using a bromine
    system prefer not to.

    Quoted message said:


    Can anyone help? thanks!

  5. Got it. I had no reserve. The sodium bromide was the missing piece to kick things off. it's
    all good now

    thanks

    Brian D <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Bromine is a sustitute for chlorine so you won't get measurable chlorine. the bromine is the
    antibacterial agent. I presume your supplier should have supplied you with the necessary
    instructions and kit. Go back to them.

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