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  1. From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:50 pm
    Subject: Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    The March, 2005 issue of the journal Digestion (2005
    Mar. 16;71(2):106-110) notes a powerful correlation
    between Celiac Disease and lactose intolerance.

    The Celiac Disease Foundation's (CDF) official position is that
    the cause of celiac disease is "unknown." CDF's definition of
    celiac disease:

    http://www.celiac.org

    "A lifelong digestive disorder, found in individuals who are
    genetically susceptible, that results in damage to the small
    intestine by interfering with the absorption of nutrients.
    Celiac Disease (CD) is unique in that a specific food component,
    gluten, has been identified as the culprit. Gluten is the common
    name for the offending proteins in specific cereal grains that
    are harmful to persons with CD. These proteins are found in
    all forms of wheat (including durum, semolina, spelt, kamut,
    einkorn, and faro), and related grains, rye, barley, and tritcale.
    Damage to the mucosal surface of the small intestine is caused by
    an immunologically toxic reaction to the ingestion of gluten."

    I have met dozens of people whose loved ones have been diagnosed
    with Celiac Disease. I have communicated with hundreds of others
    by email. In every case, those who are diagnosed with Celiac Disease
    have also identified milk and dairy products as a culprit.

    In any event, the March issue of the journal Digestion
    notes the strong relationship between Celiac Disease and
    intolerance to milk.

    A group of scientists at the Catholic University, Department
    of Internal Medicine, Rome, Italy (Ojettim et. al.), have
    observed a high prevalence of Celiac Disease patients who
    had previously been diagnosed as lactose intolerant, leading
    them to conclude:

    "Celiac Disease is much more common than previously suspected."

    People diagnosed with Celiac Disease are aware of milk's
    harmful affects. One day, the medical community and Celiac
    Disease Foundation might also take notice.

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com

  2. Lactose intolerance can be a symptom of malabsorption syndromes from a wide
    variety of causes. There might be a temporary lactase deficiency that goes
    away after an episode of the acute illness and then back to normal after the
    episode.
    I think you are being disingenuous when implying that the cause of celiac
    disease is unknown and then making a connection to milk by taking advantage
    of that statement.
    Please show me on that website that talks about gluten sensitivity and any
    references anywhere about milk?
    There are pathological structural changes that accompany celiac disease in
    not only the gut but spleen, skin and gut crypts structure. The
    malabsorption of lactose is understandable.
    It is understandable how someone with celiac disease can be lactose
    intolerant and it is understandable how someone who has lactose intolerant
    to be diagnosed with celiac disease if they are found to have gluten
    sensitive enteropathy.
    To say that lactose intolerance and milk causes celiac disease is cow
    manure.
    The constellation of markers and findings are different for those with
    strictly lactose intolerant and those with celiac disease.
    If you read their site you would realize that.
    Get together with that other guy and come up with an oxidized milk theory.

    "Bawl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:50 pm
    Subject: Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    The March, 2005 issue of the journal Digestion (2005
    Mar. 16;71(2):106-110) notes a powerful correlation
    between Celiac Disease and lactose intolerance.

    The Celiac Disease Foundation's (CDF) official position is that
    the cause of celiac disease is "unknown." CDF's definition of
    celiac disease:

    http://www.celiac.org

    "A lifelong digestive disorder, found in individuals who are
    genetically susceptible, that results in damage to the small
    intestine by interfering with the absorption of nutrients.
    Celiac Disease (CD) is unique in that a specific food component,
    gluten, has been identified as the culprit. Gluten is the common
    name for the offending proteins in specific cereal grains that
    are harmful to persons with CD. These proteins are found in
    all forms of wheat (including durum, semolina, spelt, kamut,
    einkorn, and faro), and related grains, rye, barley, and tritcale.
    Damage to the mucosal surface of the small intestine is caused by
    an immunologically toxic reaction to the ingestion of gluten."

    I have met dozens of people whose loved ones have been diagnosed
    with Celiac Disease. I have communicated with hundreds of others
    by email. In every case, those who are diagnosed with Celiac Disease
    have also identified milk and dairy products as a culprit.

    In any event, the March issue of the journal Digestion
    notes the strong relationship between Celiac Disease and
    intolerance to milk.

    A group of scientists at the Catholic University, Department
    of Internal Medicine, Rome, Italy (Ojettim et. al.), have
    observed a high prevalence of Celiac Disease patients who
    had previously been diagnosed as lactose intolerant, leading
    them to conclude:

    "Celiac Disease is much more common than previously suspected."

    People diagnosed with Celiac Disease are aware of milk's
    harmful affects. One day, the medical community and Celiac
    Disease Foundation might also take notice.

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com

  3. I don't think you read what was posted very well.

    Most Celiacs improve faster during the healing process if they remove the
    co-irritant milk from their diets. Helathy people seem to be able to drink
    milk mostly but they can tolerate many other toxins also.

    "Robert" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Lactose intolerance can be a symptom of malabsorption syndromes from a


    wide

    Quoted message said:

    variety of causes. There might be a temporary lactase deficiency that goes
    away after an episode of the acute illness and then back to normal after


    the

    Quoted message said:

    episode.
    I think you are being disingenuous when implying that the cause of celiac
    disease is unknown and then making a connection to milk by taking


    advantage

    Quoted message said:

    of that statement.
    Please show me on that website that talks about gluten sensitivity and any
    references anywhere about milk?
    There are pathological structural changes that accompany celiac disease in
    not only the gut but spleen, skin and gut crypts structure. The
    malabsorption of lactose is understandable.
    It is understandable how someone with celiac disease can be lactose
    intolerant and it is understandable how someone who has lactose intolerant
    to be diagnosed with celiac disease if they are found to have gluten
    sensitive enteropathy.
    To say that lactose intolerance and milk causes celiac disease is cow
    manure.
    The constellation of markers and findings are different for those with
    strictly lactose intolerant and those with celiac disease.
    If you read their site you would realize that.
    Get together with that other guy and come up with an oxidized milk theory.

    "Bawl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    From: "Robert Cohen" <notmilk@e...>
    Date: Tue Mar 22, 2005 1:50 pm
    Subject: Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    Celiac Disease and Dairy Products

    The March, 2005 issue of the journal Digestion (2005
    Mar. 16;71(2):106-110) notes a powerful correlation
    between Celiac Disease and lactose intolerance.

    The Celiac Disease Foundation's (CDF) official position is that
    the cause of celiac disease is "unknown." CDF's definition of
    celiac disease:

    http://www.celiac.org

    "A lifelong digestive disorder, found in individuals who are
    genetically susceptible, that results in damage to the small
    intestine by interfering with the absorption of nutrients.
    Celiac Disease (CD) is unique in that a specific food component,
    gluten, has been identified as the culprit. Gluten is the common
    name for the offending proteins in specific cereal grains that
    are harmful to persons with CD. These proteins are found in
    all forms of wheat (including durum, semolina, spelt, kamut,
    einkorn, and faro), and related grains, rye, barley, and tritcale.
    Damage to the mucosal surface of the small intestine is caused by
    an immunologically toxic reaction to the ingestion of gluten."

    I have met dozens of people whose loved ones have been diagnosed
    with Celiac Disease. I have communicated with hundreds of others
    by email. In every case, those who are diagnosed with Celiac Disease
    have also identified milk and dairy products as a culprit.

    In any event, the March issue of the journal Digestion
    notes the strong relationship between Celiac Disease and
    intolerance to milk.

    A group of scientists at the Catholic University, Department
    of Internal Medicine, Rome, Italy (Ojettim et. al.), have
    observed a high prevalence of Celiac Disease patients who
    had previously been diagnosed as lactose intolerant, leading
    them to conclude:

    "Celiac Disease is much more common than previously suspected."

    People diagnosed with Celiac Disease are aware of milk's
    harmful affects. One day, the medical community and Celiac
    Disease Foundation might also take notice.

    Robert Cohen
    http://www.notmilk.com

  4. "Pizza Girl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:1111627784.02a11318d8c434a4723baa7b0ee8d68d@teranews...

    Quoted message said:

    I don't think you read what was posted very well.

    Most Celiacs improve faster during the healing process if they remove the
    co-irritant milk from their diets. Helathy people seem to be able to drink
    milk mostly but they can tolerate many other toxins also.


    That would make sense involving lactose but your reference to milk and
    relating it to toxins is still out in left field.

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