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  1. Given the discussion of road signs that take place here occasionally I
    thought this extract from Hansard from last Tuesday might be of interest:

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm051101/text/51101w02.htm#51101w02.html_spnew6

    David Howarth: To ask the Secretary of State for Transport what the
    reasons are for his Department's ruling that Cambridgeshire county
    council may not decide whether it should install signs saying No Entry
    Except for Cyclists or No Entry Except for Buses but must follow a
    central standard. [23003]

    Ms Buck [holding answer 28 October 2005]: The design and use of traffic
    signs is specified in national regulations so that signs will be used
    consistently and safely. No-entry signs are safety critical signs that
    are used with physical barriers or to prevent conflicts and collisions
    between opposing streams of traffic. The combination with "Except buses"
    plates has been permitted for contraflow bus lanes in one-way streets or
    other bus-only facilities that it is clearly not appropriate for other
    vehicles to use. We do not believe that cyclists should be encouraged to
    cycle past no-entry signs, and the use of "except cycles" plates with
    no-entry signs is specifically prohibited by the Traffic Signs
    Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD). There are other sign designs
    available to indicate routes that cycles and buses, but not other motor
    vehicles, can use.
    --
    Tony

    "The best way I know of to win an argument is to start by being in the
    right."
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  2. On Sat, 05 Nov 2005 17:27:17 +0000 someone who may be Tony Raven
    <[email hidden]> wrote this:-

    Quoted message said:

    http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200506/cmhansrd/cm051101/text/51101w02.htm#51101w02.html_spnew6

    Ms Buck [holding answer 28 October 2005]: The design and use of traffic
    signs is specified in national regulations so that signs will be used
    consistently and safely. No-entry signs are safety critical signs that
    are used with physical barriers or to prevent conflicts and collisions
    between opposing streams of traffic. The combination with "Except buses"
    plates has been permitted for contraflow bus lanes in one-way streets or
    other bus-only facilities that it is clearly not appropriate for other
    vehicles to use. We do not believe that cyclists should be encouraged to
    cycle past no-entry signs, and the use of "except cycles" plates with
    no-entry signs is specifically prohibited by the Traffic Signs
    Regulations and General Directions (TSRGD). There are other sign designs
    available to indicate routes that cycles and buses, but not other motor
    vehicles, can use.

    There are plenty of places in Edinburgh with No-entry signs, below
    which there are plates that say something like "Except buses, cycles
    and taxis". In the last few months many more have appeared.

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