Could use a bit of advise..

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I've ridden lots of bikes over the last few days and like the Trek Nav 300 and the Specialized
Deluxe - I like the deluxe better a bit due to the rapid-fire (I think they call them) shift
levers (index finger and thumb activated) - the Trek is a rotation hand-grip. The other issue is
the Trek is $350, the Deluxe is $430 - enough different to keep me thinking. The

Trek

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dealer told me he could replace the Trek shifters with the same kind as Specialized for $30. This
makes sense to me, and I'm paying $380 then.

Both

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bikes ride about the same to me.

To my mind this is a very personal thing. If you're happy with the ride on both bikes and would
rather save $50, then go with the Trek.

On the other hand the Specialized bike is a bit better specced, so that might be $50 well spent. I
think you're pretty much on your own there.

I'm not sure that any advice someone can give you should really be helping you in making up your
mind here. You need to go back to the shop and buy with your heart and your wallet.

Regards,

John

Thanks John,

I suppose deep down I agree, but this means I spend more money. I'll ride both again then decide.

sc

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I've ridden lots of bikes over the last few days and like the Trek Nav

300

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and the Specialized Deluxe - I like the deluxe better a bit due to the rapid-fire (I think they
call them) shift levers (index finger and thumb activated) - the Trek is a rotation hand-grip.
The other issue is the

Trek

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is $350, the Deluxe is $430 - enough different to keep me thinking. The

Trek

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dealer told me he could replace the Trek shifters with the same kind as Specialized for $30.
This makes sense to me, and I'm paying $380 then.

Both

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bikes ride about the same to me.

To my mind this is a very personal thing. If you're happy with the ride on both bikes and would
rather save $50, then go with the Trek.

On the other hand the Specialized bike is a bit better specced, so that might be $50 well spent. I
think you're pretty much on your own there.

I'm not sure that any advice someone can give you should really be helping you in making up your
mind here. You need to go back to the shop and buy with your heart and your wallet.

Regards,

John

Scott C said:

To start off, I don't like people who say, "tell me what to buy".. and leave it open ended. Maybe
I'll rethink this a bit.. but I've narrowed it down and my decision at this time is between Trek
and Specialized, given the same price range of bike.

I've ridden lots of bikes over the last few days and like the Trek Nav 300 and the Specialized
Deluxe - I like the deluxe better a bit due to the rapid-fire (I think they call them) shift
levers (index finger and thumb activated) - the Trek is a rotation hand-grip. The other issue is
the Trek is $350, the Deluxe is $430 - enough different to keep me thinking. The Trek dealer told
me he could replace the Trek shifters with the same kind as Specialized for $30. This makes sense
to me, and I'm paying $380 then. Both bikes ride about the same to me.

So, any comments from Nate and Cyclist101 / others who can constructively comment.

Hey, Scott. Are you sure you have the right price for the Trek? Their website shows MSRP of $450 for
the 300. (MSRP of the Specialized Explorer Deluxe is $470.)

Some of the components on the Explorer are a little nicer, but the Trek's are adequate for street
use as well as light trail use. If you end up buying the Trek, definitely get the Rapidfire
shifters since you prefer them (I also prefer thumbshifting to twisting, but it's definitely a
personal thing).

It's also a good idea to figure out anything else you want to change out (at cost with credit for
stuff you don't keep) while you're spending money: tires (do you want slicks for street or something
a little more aggressive for trails?), derailleurs (upgrading from the C102 to Acera front on the
Trek should be $10 or less), and especially saddle (how long have you ridden on the saddle of the
bike you end up buying? do you have experience with other saddles?). Most comfort bikes like these
come with plush, comfy saddles, but everyone's anatomy is unique. Make sure the saddle on the bike
matches you.

Hope this helps.

Thanks - Yes, have shopped around on the price and normal MSRP's are off the price at local stores
in San Jose. I have ask many times about price, and for sure $350 for the Trek and $429 for the
Specialized (different stores unfortunately).

I will look into the Acera front deraileur - and tires.. did not think of this.

As far as the saddle... I have 3 to "play with".. and my most recent is a wider one, springs, and is
OK, but almost prefer a thinner one.. but I will alternate and see.

Thanks again for the comments

sc

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So, any comments from Nate and Cyclist101 / others who can

constructively

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comment.

Hey, Scott. Are you sure you have the right price for the Trek? Their website shows MSRP of $450
for the 300. (MSRP of the Specialized Explorer Deluxe is $470.)

Some of the components on the Explorer are a little nicer, but the Trek's are adequate for street
use as well as light trail use. If you end up buying the Trek, definitely get the Rapidfire
shifters since you prefer them (I also prefer thumbshifting to twisting, but it's definitely a
personal thing).

It's also a good idea to figure out anything else you want to change out (at cost with credit for
stuff you don't keep) while you're spending money: tires (do you want slicks for street or
something a little more aggressive for trails?), derailleurs (upgrading from the C102 to Acera
front on the Trek should be $10 or less), and especially saddle (how long have you ridden on the
saddle of the bike you end up buying? do you have experience with other saddles?). Most comfort
bikes like these come with plush, comfy saddles, but everyone's anatomy is unique. Make sure the
saddle on the bike matches you.

Hope this helps.