Cornbread - I wonder why?

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Gregory Morrow said:

Yup, I've never seen cornbread sold in any stores, North or South. Also
even if the spoilage issue could be reasonably resolved cornbread dries out
so quickly that the shelf life would probably be limited to hours, not
days...

In my experience, which is pretty much limited to Chicago, baking soda
raised breads are rarely sold in stores, except perhaps sweet ones.
Corn muffins are an exception. Or are they typically sweet? (I've never
had one.)

-bwg

Seamus said:

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Virginia (while I did live there twice) is not exactly southern USian in my
experience, food-wise. (Boli would beg to differ!) I think my mom bought a
cornbread mix when we lived there. It tasted so sweet to me and came with a
little tin baking sheet.

I've never seen a 'Food Lion' unless you wish to discuss someone who scarfs
down food at the rate of a lion! LOL

Jill

On Fri 26 Aug 2005 10:52:29a, [email hidden] wrote in
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Quoted message said:

Gregory Morrow said:

Yup, I've never seen cornbread sold in any stores, North or South.
Also even if the spoilage issue could be reasonably resolved cornbread
dries out so quickly that the shelf life would probably be limited to
hours, not days...

In my experience, which is pretty much limited to Chicago, baking soda
raised breads are rarely sold in stores, except perhaps sweet ones.
Corn muffins are an exception. Or are they typically sweet? (I've never
had one.)

-bwg

In the North they are apt to be sweeter than in the South. So, too, for
regular pan cornbread.

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AlleyGator wrote:

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Quoted message said:

I love leftover cornbread forbreakfast, with mil,
sugar and cinnamon. Good stuff.

Tom Douglas, a chef here in Seattle, does a very good cornbread pudding:
http://www.januarymagazine.com/profiles/tdouglasrec.html

---jkb

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Homer: "Well, I think the veal died of loneliness."

Another "not cornbread" doctoring up for Jiffy Cornbread mix is to add a
few more tablespoons of flour, a little cooking oil or melted butter (if
you dare) and a drained small can of crushed pineapple, in juice not
heavy syrup. Tried both muffins and in square pan. Really good.

Bob (this one) said:

-L. said:

Jiffy mix actually is pretty good if you're in a pinch. I add a little
sugar to it though. 😉

Try something. Combine a Jiffy corn bread mix with Jiffy yellow cake
mix. Add all the fixings called for to the bowl. Bake at 375°F until a
tester comes out clean.

It's certainly not corn bread; more like a corn cake, and people who
don't like sweet corn bread like it because it's so different. Warm,
with butter melting into it is lovely. Plain ain't bad, either. Nutella
doesn't hurt it. Spoon some sliced, sugared strawberries over top;
vanilla ice cream if it's still warm.

Pastorio

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With all the specialty breads - sourdough, freshly baked fancy
baguettes,
herbed bread rounds, etc. at the grocery stores why does no one sell
cornbread loaves, cornmuffins, cornsticks (at least in the southern
U.S.)?
Seems like they would be inexpensive to bake and sell.

Jill, I've seen cornbread in Kroger stores in the Houston area. (I
sometimes pick up a couple trays of it just before Thanksgiving to use
in my sausage cornbread stuffing.)

Mary

jmcquown said:

Seamus said:

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Virginia (while I did live there twice) is not exactly southern USian in my
experience, food-wise. (Boli would beg to differ!) I think my mom bought a
cornbread mix when we lived there. It tasted so sweet to me and came with a
little tin baking sheet.

I've bought it in Burnsville, N.C., can't remember which supermarket.

Doug
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jmcquown said:

Here's a photo of the cornbread (baked in my sectioned cast iron pan):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/74365823TtOJGp

Thanks a heap, Jill!

I wasn't going to do any shopping till Monday and now I gotta go down and
get some hocks and buttermilk. harumphh.... 😉

nb

notbob said:

jmcquown said:

Here's a photo of the cornbread (baked in my sectioned cast iron
pan):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/74365823TtOJGp

Thanks a heap, Jill!

I wasn't going to do any shopping till Monday and now I gotta go down
and get some hocks and buttermilk. harumphh.... 😉

nb

My pleasure, sweetie 😉

On Fri 26 Aug 2005 02:01:18p, jmcquown wrote in rec.food.cooking:

Quoted message said:

notbob said:

jmcquown said:

Here's a photo of the cornbread (baked in my sectioned cast iron
pan):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/74365823TtOJGp

Thanks a heap, Jill!

I wasn't going to do any shopping till Monday and now I gotta go down
and get some hocks and buttermilk. harumphh.... 😉

nb

My pleasure, sweetie 😉

Sounds like a good thing to me!

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*
____________________________________________

Give me a smart idiot over a stupid genius any day.
Sam Goldwyn, 1882-1974

jmcquown said:

Some swear by white cornmeal;
I prefer yellow.

Jill's Cornbread

1 cup medium-grind yellow cornmeal
1 c. white flour
up to 1/4 c. sugar (I use about 1 Tablespoon)
4 tsp. baking powder
1/2 tsp. salt
1/4 c. butter, shortening/lard or bacon grease
1 c. buttermilk
1 large egg, lightly beaten

Quoted message said:

Jill
--

I prefer yellow cornmeal, too, and self-rising stoneground, please,
with bacon grease. I also like to use about a tablespoon of sugar as
it just does something for the cornbread. Sorta like what vanilla
extract does for cakes.

When it comes out of the oven slap copious amounts of butter on that
wedge and get outta my way!!

jmcquown said:

Seamus said:

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Yep. And Staunton, Verona and points north and south.

Quoted message said:

Virginia (while I did live there twice) is not exactly southern USian in my
experience, food-wise. (Boli would beg to differ!)

So would Pastorio who lives in the Shenandoah Valley. Look at the
traditional menus around here and see southern cooking at its finest.

Quoted message said:

I think my mom bought a
cornbread mix when we lived there. It tasted so sweet to me and came with a
little tin baking sheet.

Northern Virginia isn't the south. It's basically D.C. And the coast
where all the big ships full of sailors isn't the south, either.

Faulkner said you can't get further south than Charlottesville. He lived
there the last years of his life.

Quoted message said:

I've never seen a 'Food Lion' unless you wish to discuss someone who scarfs
down food at the rate of a lion! LOL

Large and growing chain of supermarkets headquartered in Salisbury, N.C.

Pastorio

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Quoted message said:

jmcquown said:

Seamus said:

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Yep. And Staunton, Verona and points north and south.

Quoted message said:

Virginia (while I did live there twice) is not exactly southern USian in
my
experience, food-wise. (Boli would beg to differ!)

So would Pastorio who lives in the Shenandoah Valley. Look at the
traditional menus around here and see southern cooking at its finest.

Quoted message said:

I think my mom bought a
cornbread mix when we lived there. It tasted so sweet to me and came
with a
little tin baking sheet.

Northern Virginia isn't the south. It's basically D.C. And the coast where
all the big ships full of sailors isn't the south, either.

Faulkner said you can't get further south than Charlottesville. He lived
there the last years of his life.

Quoted message said:

I've never seen a 'Food Lion' unless you wish to discuss someone who
scarfs
down food at the rate of a lion! LOL

Large and growing chain of supermarkets headquartered in Salisbury, N.C.

Pastorio

When I moved to the Shenandoah Valley, VA 13 years ago, while getting
settled, I stopped a woman in Strasburg, VA and asked her if she knew of a
grocery store that I was looking for, called the 'Family Lion.' I oft look
back on that day and think of her kindness when she said that there was a
Food Lion, if that might be what I was looking for, and gave me directions.
There was not a 'snort' from her or her young daughter for me calling it the
'Family Lion' and I look fondly on it as country folk who had good Southern
manners. I wonder if they thought it as funny as I do, having called it the
Family Lion many times since, making fun of myself.

Northern Virginia folk are moving further west and it probably won't be too
many years that they'll be all the way to Hwy 81 and the WV border. In
Winchester, there are many people who have settled in coming from NE U.S.
Times are a changing.

I can't remember Faulkner's reasoning for saying that about Charlottesville,
but I find truth in it.
Dee Dee

Dee Dee

Bob (this one) said:

jmcquown said:

Seamus said:

IIRC, the Food Lion in Waynesboro, VA also carried cornbread.

Yep. And Staunton, Verona and points north and south.

Quoted message said:

Virginia (while I did live there twice) is not exactly southern
USian in my experience, food-wise. (Boli would beg to differ!)

So would Pastorio who lives in the Shenandoah Valley. Look at the
traditional menus around here and see southern cooking at its finest.

Oh Shendandoah, I long to hear you,
Away, you rolling river!
Oh Shenandoah, I long to hear you
Away, I'm bound away
'cross the wide Missouri.

Did I mention I lived in Virginia (twice)? Still no good cornbread there
from my recollections, so sorry.

Jill

jmcquown said:

Did I mention I lived in Virginia (twice)? Still no good cornbread there
from my recollections, so sorry.

What parts of Virginia did you live in? It matters.

Pastorio

jmcquown said:

tsr3 said:

Looks good--especially the bacon grease! Most of the time I use
cornbread recipes that just call for the cornmeal--no white flour.

Here's a photo of the cornbread (baked in my sectioned cast iron pan):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/74365823TtOJGp

Jill

Jill, every time you post about corn bread, I visualize a tiny ladybug
walking on it, while it is cooling. :o)

The picture you posted looks simply yummy. Thank you. MS

Margaret Suran said:

jmcquown said:

tsr3 said:

Looks good--especially the bacon grease! Most of the time I use
cornbread recipes that just call for the cornmeal--no white flour.

Here's a photo of the cornbread (baked in my sectioned cast iron
pan):

http://community.webshots.com/photo/74365720/74365823TtOJGp

Jill

Jill, every time you post about corn bread, I visualize a tiny ladybug
walking on it, while it is cooling. :o)

The picture you posted looks simply yummy. Thank you. MS

That is funny! I took that picture on another computer and didn't save it!
It was too cute (the ladybug walking on my cornbread). Then of course, you
sent me email with a ladybug crawling all over the page. I giggled and
giggled. You are so much fun, sweet lady! Enjoying the chocolate?

Jill

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Quoted message said:

Jill, every time you post about corn bread, I visualize a tiny ladybug
walking on it, while it is cooling. :o)

The picture you posted looks simply yummy. Thank you. MS

This is a little off the cornbread topic but has anyone ever eaten salt
rising bread? Years ago there was a home delivery bakery,Manor, and they had
salt rising bread. Maybe it isn't as good as I remember but I would like to
find out. There are recipes and I tried some and just made a mess. They
involved soaking a potato in a warm place. It didn't work for me. Has anyone
made this type of bread or better yet know where I could order some.

Bob (this one) said:

jmcquown said:

Did I mention I lived in Virginia (twice)? Still no good cornbread
there from my recollections, so sorry.

What parts of Virginia did you live in? It matters.

Pastorio

Woodbridge (dad was stationed at Quantico) when I was age 2-4 and I
remember, very well when JFK was shot and my mom was crying and we watched
it on television.

Some years later, Annandale, VA...on two different streets. I liked
Virginia. It was the later years when she bought the cornbread mix to cook
up in a little tin. Cornbread wasn't something she was familiar with as a
child in Ohio.

Jill