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Cooktek Induction Cooktops Review

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  1. I know there's a lot of interest in these units, and we have been using
    2 now for about 9 months. Actually one died with a pop when we first got
    it and Cooktek was very quick to replace it including free shipping.

    This is in a home kitchen. We've got 2 double hob drop in units, 2500W
    per hob mounted in a line so we can both cook simultaneously without any
    "back burners". I recommend this if 2 people cook together. We also
    mounted them flush with the counter top, not the normal drop in mount
    that leaves a 1/2" lip. This mounting makes cleanup much easier.

    We mainly use Sitram Profiseries cookware, although AllClad works very
    well, as does plain steel, cast iron, enameled iron and anything else
    that's magnetic.

    Cooking on these is great, it was the best thing we put into the
    kitchen! When we cook at a friend's house with a Viking gas range we are
    always impressed by how much better the Cooktek is.

    The max power is amazing, heating tea in an enameled pot takes about the
    same time as getting the tea bags and cups out. Heating up an oiled pan
    to smoking is a matter of seconds, you don't want to do anything else,
    because it's so fast it will burn if you're not paying attention. It's
    equivalent to something like a 22000 BTU burner. For frying eggs, I heat
    the oil for about 10-15 sec at max (20) till it smokes, then turn it
    down to 5 to get crisp, but not hard eggs. The response is instantaneous.

    You can see how instantaneous it is by simmering a pan of water on low
    power. It pulses the heat about twice a second, and on each pulse you
    get a burst of tiny bubbles on the bottom. The response time for these
    cooktops is really just a matter of the mass of the pan, that's the only
    lag.

    The really great thing about these though is the low power settings.
    They are very low and very controlled. I saute garlic, which is very
    sensitive, by starting it at level 5 to get it just sizzling, then turn
    down to 2 and can walk away and do something else for a few minutes
    beause I know it won't burn. Simmering BBQ sauce for 3 or 4 hours is
    done by setting it at level 4 or 5 for the first couple of hours,
    stirring a bit every 30-45 minutes, then as it concentrates, turn down
    to 3, still stirring only occasionally. It heats very uniformly across
    the pan bottom and while it gets quite thick, it never burns.

    Since the heat is only on the bottom of the pan, there are some other
    very nice advantages.

    The pan handles don't get hot since there is no waste heat running up
    the sides of the pan. For the same reason, the kitchen gets much less
    hot since cooking is done with much less heat input as there's very
    little wasted.

    There also isn't the problem of sauces or scrambled eggs burning on the
    pan sides, the sides aren't very hot.

    The cooktop doesn't heat itself, but will get hot from the bottom of the
    pan. However, an inch away, it is cool to the touch, so you can put
    non-magnetic utensils down right next to a cooking pan.

    Once you get used to all this, be careful! Your friend's gas stove
    doesn't behave this way. In particular, the handles get very hot!

    Cleanup, once cool, is very easy, just spray with an alcohol based
    cleaner, no ammonia, and wipe with a couple of paper towels. If you've
    been cooking hot, and something spilled over and burned onto the glass,
    an abrasive pad or in extreme cases a razor blade gets it off.
    Generally, the top is cool enough, that boil overs can be cleaned up
    with a sponge while cooking. Just lift off the pan and wipe it up, then
    put the pan back down. The top is hot from the bottom of the pan, but
    not usually too hot to wipe if you're careful. I wouldn't recommend this
    though if you are frying something. The top can get quite hot.

    Cooktek warns that it won't sense small pans and so won't heat them.
    That has not been my experience using a 5" Sitram sauce pan. It works
    fine. Maybe some very small butter melters might not work, but it hasn't
    been an issue at all for us.

    Some people and manufacturers seem to think that a combination of
    burners, induction and gas or something is a good mix. IMHO, get all
    induction, I can't imagine why you'd ever use the other burners. If you
    do a lot of wok cooking, you'll need a flat bottom wok, or, Cooktek
    makes a line of wok heaters, up to 30000 BTU.

    Problems:

    IMHO Cooktek is very misleading in the way they advertise that you can
    set the temperature of the pan and it will hold it.

    This is simply not true.

    I talked to a Cooktek engineer and he admitted that they have a temp
    sensor under the top that measures the temp of the underside of the
    glass top, not the pan as they say. This temperature has very little to
    do with the actual pan temperature and the "feature" is pretty much
    completely useless. It might stabilize over 15 minutes or so, but if you
    are relying on it to make a sauce, as they say in their ads, you'll have
    carbon in your pan and a very smokey kitchen. The $120 Sunpentown
    actually works pretty well for this. I think because their top is
    plastic so it changes temp much more quickly.

    Cooktek should fix this. It would be a great feature, but as it is, it's
    a useless crock.

    The control knobs are very free turning, so it's all too easy to change
    them by brushing against them.

    There is a fused on pattern on the top that makes cleaning up very
    burned on stuff unnecessarily difficult. It would be much better if it
    were a completely smooth top.

    The glass surface is somewhat susceptible to scratching. You can't
    really shake a pan while in contact with the cooktop without danger of
    scratching. I suppose you could put a paper towel down between the pan
    and top to protect it while cooking. If you don't get the pan
    ridiculously hot, the paper won't burn.

    The top generally doesn't get dangerously hot, but that can engender bad
    habits. For safety it would be good if the above mentioned temp sensor
    lit up a light or something when the glass was too hot to touch, even
    after the unit was turned off.

  2. On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:29:34 -0400, Ralph <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Heating up an oiled pan
    to smoking is a matter of seconds, you don't want to do anything else,
    because it's so fast it will burn if you're not paying attention.

    LOL, I still remember the first time I fried bacon on my induction
    cooktop (I have a Siemens). I was still accustomed to regular
    electric.... Let's just say that *that* bacon ended up in the
    garbage...

    Quoted message said:

    If you've
    been cooking hot, and something spilled over and burned onto the glass,
    an abrasive pad or in extreme cases a razor blade gets it off.

    Whoa! *Never* an abrasive pad, if you want to keep that cooktop nice
    and smooth. The razor blade is the way to go.

    Oh, and you'll see, water baths are now a thing of the past :-) I do
    zabaglione directly in the pot now!

    Nathalie in Switzerland (been cooking on induction for over 7 years)

  3. Nathalie Chiva said:

    On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:29:34 -0400, Ralph <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Heating up an oiled pan
    to smoking is a matter of seconds, you don't want to do anything else,
    because it's so fast it will burn if you're not paying attention.

    LOL, I still remember the first time I fried bacon on my induction
    cooktop (I have a Siemens). I was still accustomed to regular
    electric.... Let's just say that *that* bacon ended up in the
    garbage...

    Quoted message said:

    If you've
    been cooking hot, and something spilled over and burned onto the glass,
    an abrasive pad or in extreme cases a razor blade gets it off.

    Whoa! *Never* an abrasive pad, if you want to keep that cooktop nice
    and smooth. The razor blade is the way to go.

    Oh, and you'll see, water baths are now a thing of the past :-) I do
    zabaglione directly in the pot now!

    Nathalie in Switzerland (been cooking on induction for over 7 years)

    It looks like folks in the United States will soon see several
    induction units for sale. The Wolf one has come out. I may
    get that, but I want to see the other offerings first. One
    magazine I picked up recently actually described induction
    technology as "hot", so I do hope this takes off here.

    --
    Jean B., who has a feeble half-induction Jenn-Air, but who
    likes the potential anyway

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