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Converting Street to Off-road (700C -> 26")

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  1. When I couldn't find replacement forks for my 1" steerer MTB frame, I
    decided to move all the (quality) MTB bits onto my former commute bike
    (a 700c MBK dual purpose - essentialy a MTB frame) with a 1 1/8"
    steerer head, cuz I could get reasonably cheap and useful sus forks for
    it (I got Suntour XCP 75, good value for money...).

    I solved all the problems like chain-line, etc., but I'm stuck with the
    rear brakes: the braze-ons for the v-brakes are too high for the
    smaller 26" wheels - they are almost exactly inline with the rim
    itself. I don't want to fit discs or starting welding the frame, so...

    Does anyone know if there are any conversion plates or anything that
    will fix this? Something like a brake booster that would bolt onto the
    existing braze-ons but offer canti sockets further down might do the
    trick.

    Otherwise, I could use a caliper brake, if there is one that'd fit
    around a 2" tire (BMX?).

    Any ideas greatly appreciated...

  2. Quoted message said:


    Does anyone know if there are any conversion plates or anything that
    will fix this? Something like a brake booster that would bolt onto the
    existing braze-ons but offer canti sockets further down might do the
    trick.

    Otherwise, I could use a caliper brake, if there is one that'd fit
    around a 2" tire (BMX?).

    Any ideas greatly appreciated...

    Something like this?
    http://harriscyclery.net/site/page.cfm?PageID=49&SKU=BR9121

    Depending on the size of tire, you'll probably lower your bottom
    bracket by 1/2" to 2". This may be a problem if you're in the habit of
    pedaling through corners.

    Jeff

  3. Quoted message said:

    I solved all the problems like chain-line, etc., but I'm stuck with the
    rear brakes: the braze-ons for the v-brakes are too high for the
    smaller 26" wheels - they are almost exactly inline with the rim
    itself. I don't want to fit discs or starting welding the frame, so...

    The only similar solution I've heard about is a homemade job, mentioned
    in this very newsgroup by Chalo:

    Quoted message said:

    ...the frame... was
    intended to be a K2 comfort bike with 26" wheels....
    An evening on the CNC mill yielded a brake mount that used the canti
    boss pads to hold U-brake studs instead, positioned to work with a 20"
    wheel.

    He made an adapter from 26" -> 20" brake mounts, so you might be able to
    make the same thing for 700 -> 26". Or maybe the old brake bosses would
    interfere with the new brakes -- I haven't measured that.

    If you don't have easy access to CNC machines, you might be able to move
    the bosses and repaint the frame at less expense than this.

    --
    Dave
    dvt at psu dot edu

  4. Quoted message said:

    When I couldn't find replacement forks for my 1" steerer MTB frame, I
    decided to move all the (quality) MTB bits onto my former commute bike
    (a 700c MBK dual purpose - essentialy a MTB frame)


    <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone know if there are any conversion plates or anything that
    will fix this? Something like a brake booster that would bolt onto the
    existing braze-ons but offer canti sockets further down might do the
    trick.

    Nope. That won't work; you'd have to chop off the old canti bosses or
    else contrive a mount that sticks way out from the frame. Even then,
    you would have to figure out a way to tie it down in a third location
    or risk bending/breaking the frame bosses from the additional leverage.

    Quoted message said:

    Otherwise, I could use a caliper brake, if there is one that'd fit
    around a 2" tire (BMX?).

    That would work, if the canti bosses were not in the way. In my
    experience, 700c frame bosses are located pretty much directly
    alongside a 26" rim's edge. That puts them in the approximate location
    you want the brake pads or arms to be.

    If it doesn't hurt your feelings to do so, you can cut and file away
    the old bosses, then use a BMX caliper, canti or U-brake frame adapter
    plate, or something a little more elegant like this:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=7182463950

    I use one of these on one of my bikes, and it's surprisingly
    non-terrible for a long reach caliper.

    Another way to cope would be to build up a new rear wheel with a drum
    brake of some kind, like a Shimano Nexave roller brake freehub or an
    old Sachs VT5020 threaded hub. That would allow you to leave your
    brake bosses intact for later variations.

    there's also nothing wrong in principle with using a 700c wheel on the
    back and a 26" wheel on the front.

    Chalo Colina

  5. Thanks for the suggestions, guys. I have ordered up a "Big Cheese
    Linear pull brake mount. Vertical distance from mounting bolt to brake
    stud adjusts from 108 - 117mm (BR9121)" like Jeff suggested.
    Perfect, as it picks up the fender bolt hole above as well as the old
    canti braze-ons.
    Unfortunatley, Sheldon's shop was out of stock, but I found it at:
    http://aebike.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=30&SKU=BR9121

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