Is it just me or do people who swear by TrainerRoad for high-intensity training just not know how to create their own workouts in Zwift, or are they genuinely getting better results from the structured workouts in TrainerRoad? Ive seen so many people raving about how TrainerRoad has taken their fitness to the next level, but when I look at the workouts, they seem pretty basic - just a bunch of intervals and hill repeats. Cant you just create the same thing in Zwift and avoid the extra cost of a separate subscription? And whats with all the fuss about the science-backed workouts in TrainerRoad? Isnt that just marketing speak for weve got some coaches who know what theyre doing? I mean, Zwift has got some of the best coaches and athletes in the world creating workouts for it, so surely the quality of the workouts is on par with TrainerRoad. And lets not forget that Zwift is a full-on virtual training environment, whereas TrainerRoad is just a bunch of videos and graphs. So, is it really worth paying extra for a service that just provides structured workouts when you could be getting a full-on immersive training experience with Zwift? Are people just paying for the convenience of having someone else create their workouts for them, or is there really something special about TrainerRoad that Im missing? And what about the social aspect - doesnt the fact that Zwift has a huge community of riders and a virtual environment to ride in make it a more engaging and motivating platform for high-intensity training? Im genuinely curious to hear from people who have used both platforms - are you really getting better results from TrainerRoad, or is it just a case of grass is greener syndrome?