Clipless Pedals - do many not use them?

[Geob]

> To "ME" a ride isn't a ride without at least one round of "burn outs", a sprint,

I don't do this every ride but most of them.

> If I'm pushing as hard and as fast as I can, spinning 110+ with max push effort and I hit a bump,
> one of my feet is going flying,

I spin faster than that. And my legs are thick.. lots of off-the-centerline reciprocating weight. My
pedal came un-clipped as
I (anewbie) hadn't learned to keep it adjusted. I crashed big-time, at about 25mph. Ankle is still
kinda munched, makes funny sounds when I bend it. Hurts. But not when I ride, it's OK then.

 

[Geob]

> BTW, summer is here, +20 C day temps. The sea is still almost completely frozen =)

Gimme a break! Seas don't freeze! Why I have been to the largest ocean in the world hundreds of
times here in California, and it has never been close to freezing! ;-)

 

[Geob]

> block. (The child was relatively uninjured, but the fork on my Peugeot was bent and I received a
> concussion). [1]
>
> [1] Why I prefer a SWB recumbent when I am riding in an area with a lot of idiot pedestrians, e.g.
> college students.

I love the use of your footnotes, they help preserve the continuity of thought yet still provide
valuable extra information. Thanks!

 

[Harv]

That's H A R V! I'm Harv, and I clip in. "Ben" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> HARV,
>
> Why not have the best of both worlds? Shimano and Nashbar both make a peddle with clips on one
> side and a gripping flat on the other side.
>
> http://bike.shimano.com/Footwear_Pedals/pedals/componenttemplate.asp?pa- rtnumber=PD-M324
>
> If you go back on the threads about two weeks ago, there's a conversation about "To Clip or Not to
> Clip? It was a very informative discussion.
>
> Ben >>>Burley Canto>>>
>
>
>
> --
> >--------------------------<
> Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com

 

[Gary Krause]

Hi Harv,

I use toe clips on both of my bents. I like the fact that I can wear just about any shoe that I
choose. I normally wear some type of cross trainer and if I have to get of the bike and run or walk,
I can. I have a friend that use to use clipless pedals and he complained of the cold getting to his
feet in the winter. He said he could really feel it through the metal plate in the bottom on the
shoe even though it was covered. I've found that toe clips hold my feet on the pedals just fine and
I've never fallen over because, I couldn't get them out in time. Also, I'm able to pull on the pedal
with no problem at all. For me, toe clips are the way to go plus, it's a lot less expensive and more
comfortable in my opinion.

Gary

R2D2 <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> H A R V wrote:
> > Just curious as to how many bent riders don't use Clipless Pedals? Are there many that use DX
> > platform pedals with some type of strap retention, such as Power Grips? If Clipless are not
> > used, why? Thanks!
> > --
> > ________________________________________
> > h a r v w e l c h (victoria bc canuckistan) Sun EZ Sport
> > http://rideitbent.net/http://rideitbent.net
> > http://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htmhttp://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htm
>
> You just have to get Very familiar with the term "Anticipate."

 

[R.White]

Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> "R.White" wrote:
> >
> > Well since I'm not using a trike and do not forsee myself purchasing one...
>
> No offense, but you need some serious psychological help.
>

It wouldn't be for lack of want, but lack of money.

 

[Edward Wong]

[email protected] (GeoB) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > Test it out one day. And get ready convert your trike to a wheelcahir.
>
> My bro bought a trike. He rode it about 50 feet, reg'ler flat pedals, got leg-suck, had a knee
> operation and is in a wheel chair. MAYbe he'll be able to ride agin, maybe not. But it will
> always hurt.

Geo:

I'm sorry to hear about what happened to your brother. Non the less, I must declare that your
brother was very careless and didn't evaluate the risk involved in riding the trike with the stock
pedals. If you've read my past post in this topic, you'll see that I am not a big fan of clipless
pedals BUT, I see where they make a LOT of sense to use them on a low tadpole trike. The low height
coupled with the high BB to seat relation can make legsuck pretty easy to induce as your brother
found out. In addition, on a trike there's no balance issues and you can stay clipped in at a stop.
Yes, if I bought a trike, I would definately use clipless pedals. On my Lightning SWB, my BMX
platform pedals do a wonderful job to say the least.

I wish your brother a full recovery.

Edward Wong Orlando, FL

 

[Harv]

Not Harv. I'm Harv. I didn't post that. H a r v posted that! "Gary Krause" <[email protected]>
wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Hi Harv,
>
> I use toe clips on both of my bents. I like the fact that I can wear just about any shoe that I
> choose. I normally wear some type of cross trainer and if I have to get of the bike and run or
> walk, I can. I have a friend that use to use clipless pedals and he complained of the cold getting
> to his feet in the winter. He said he could really feel it through the metal plate in the bottom
> on the shoe even though it was covered. I've found that toe clips hold my feet on the pedals just
> fine and I've never fallen over because, I couldn't get them out in time. Also, I'm able to pull
> on the pedal with no problem at all. For me, toe clips are the way to go plus, it's a lot less
> expensive and more comfortable in my opinion.
>
> Gary
>
>
>
>
>
> R2D2 <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:<[email protected]>...
> > H A R V wrote:
> > > Just curious as to how many bent riders don't use Clipless Pedals? Are there many that use
> > > DX platform pedals with some type of strap retention, such as Power Grips? If Clipless are
> > > not used, why? Thanks!
> > > --
> > > ________________________________________
> > > h a r v w e l c h (victoria bc canuckistan) Sun EZ Sport
> > > http://rideitbent.net/http://rideitbent.net
> > > http://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htmhttp://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htm
> >
> > You just have to get Very familiar with the term "Anticipate."

 

[Edward Dolan]

[email protected] (GeoB) wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...

> > block. (The child was relatively uninjured, but the fork on my Peugeot was bent and I received a
> > concussion). [1]
> >
> > [1] Why I prefer a SWB recumbent when I am riding in an area with a lot of idiot pedestrians,
> > e.g. college students.
>
> I love the use of your footnotes, they help preserve the continuity of thought yet still provide
> valuable extra information. Thanks!

Mr. Sherman could just have easily made his footnote another sentence to conclude the paragraph or
made it a separate paragraph by perhaps beginning, "THIS IS why I prefer..." It is essentially
all one thought. A footnote is just not necessary. But if you love footnotes, then Mr. Sherman
is your man. I say no thanks!

By the way, I think instead of blaming pedestrians for our accidents we should look more closely at
ourselves. Almost all of these types of accidents are caused by the cyclist going too fast for
conditions. The solution to avoiding most collision type accidents with pedstrians is just to slow
down, sometimes to really slow down to almost a crawl. As far as I'm concerned a pedestrian always
has the right of way.

However, I do enjoy reading on this newsgroup all the trials and tribulations that result from going
too fast for conditions.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Tom Sherman]

Edward Dolan wrote:
> ... By the way, I think instead of blaming pedestrians for our accidents we should look more
> closely at ourselves. Almost all of these types of accidents are caused by the cyclist going too
> fast for conditions. The solution to avoiding most collision type accidents with pedstrians is
> just to slow down, sometimes to really slow down to almost a crawl. As far as I'm concerned a
> pedestrian always has the right of way....

At a traffic light controlled intersection, pedestrians certainly do not have the right-of-way when
they are crossing the street on a "DON'T WALK" signal.

The combination of a leading 62T chainring and well timed blasts from an Air Zound work as well as
anything can on those senseless behaving primates know as college undergraduates.

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

 

[Tom Sherman]

"R.White" wrote:
>
> Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> > "R.White" wrote:
> > >
> > > Well since I'm not using a trike and do not forsee myself purchasing one...
> >
> > No offense, but you need some serious psychological help.
> >
>
> It wouldn't be for lack of want, but lack of money.

If I had more money, there would be a Trice Micro shipped in my direction.

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

 

[Chere]

GeoB ~ We witnessed a frozen Atlantic Ocean the winter of '79 in Ocean City, MD. Rare, I'll grant
you, but yes, it can happen.
--
Chere ~ GRR Sanibel, FL / Cumberland, MD

> BTW, summer is here, +20 C day temps. The sea is still almost completely frozen =)

Gimme a break! Seas don't freeze! Why I have been to the largest ocean in the world hundreds of
times here in California, and it has never been close to freezing! ;-)

 

[Ian Smith]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:57:27 -0500, Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> At a traffic light controlled intersection, pedestrians certainly do not have the right-of-way
> when they are crossing the street on a "DON'T WALK" signal.

You should qualify your statement - they do in the UK (the sign is an illuminated red man), though
most motorists are oblivious of teh fact. In essence, the same laws govern all pedestrian crossings,
and a pedestrian on a crossing has priority over traffic on the road.

regards, Ian SMith
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[Tom Sherman]

Ian Smith wrote:
>
> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:57:27 -0500, Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > At a traffic light controlled intersection, pedestrians certainly do not have the right-of-way
> > when they are crossing the street on a "DON'T WALK" signal.
>
> You should qualify your statement - they do in the UK (the sign is an illuminated red man), though
> most motorists are oblivious of teh fact. In essence, the same laws govern all pedestrian
> crossings, and a pedestrian on a crossing has priority over traffic on the road....

The UK law is more ridiculous than Tony Blair's foreign policy, then. What is the point of having
green traffic lights for traffic and red lights for pedestrians if they do not necessarily indicate
who has the right-of-way?

Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

 

[Edward Dolan]

Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Edward Dolan wrote:
> > ... By the way, I think instead of blaming pedestrians for our accidents we should look more
> > closely at ourselves. Almost all of these types of accidents are caused by the cyclist going too
> > fast for conditions. The solution to avoiding most collision type accidents with pedstrians is
> > just to slow down, sometimes to really slow down to almost a crawl. As far as I'm concerned a
> > pedestrian always has the right of way....
>
> At a traffic light controlled intersection, pedestrians certainly do not have the right-of-way
> when they are crossing the street on a "DON'T WALK" signal.
>
> The combination of a leading 62T chainring and well timed blasts from an Air Zound work as well as
> anything can on those senseless behaving primates know as college undergraduates.
>
> Tom Sherman - Various HPV's Quad Cities USA (Illinois side)

Cyclists who dispute the right of way with pedestrians and/or motorists are just asking for trouble.
Who is going to get hurt the most in the event of a collision? Almost always the cyclist is going to
come out the worse. I give pedestrians the same wide berth that I give motorists and I have never
had a collision with either.

As for the dumbness of college undergraduates, I give the ultimate idiocy award to kids. They are
like deer and are as likely as not to dart right in front of you for no reason whatever. My solution
to these hazards of the road is to slow down. I stand by my statement that a pedestrian always has
the right of way with me, if not legally, then ethically. All my crashes have been due to not seeing
cracks in the road, not to not seeing kids and college undergraduates.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

 

[Ian Smith]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 20:08:44 -0500, Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Ian Smith wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 01:57:27 -0500, Tom Sherman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > >
> > > At a traffic light controlled intersection, pedestrians certainly do not have the
> > > right-of-way when they are crossing the street on a "DON'T WALK" signal.
> >
> > You should qualify your statement - they do in the UK (the sign is an illuminated red man),
> > though most motorists are oblivious of teh fact. In essence, the same laws govern all pedestrian
> > crossings, and a pedestrian on a crossing has priority over traffic on the road....
>
> The UK law is more ridiculous than Tony Blair's foreign policy, then. What is the point of having
> green traffic lights for traffic and red lights for pedestrians if they do not necessarily
> indicate who has the right-of-way?

There's no concept of right of way in UK traffic law, I believe. In certain circumstances one or
other person or vehicle has priority, but you never get an automatic right to bulldoze whjatever is
in your way.

However, I see no problem with making cars (which are noisy, smelly, dangerous and generally
unpleasant) subservient to pedestrians in all circumstances.

regards, Ian SMith
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[Baronn1]

Bering...sea, that is, freezes every year. "GeoB" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> > BTW, summer is here, +20 C day temps. The sea is still almost completely frozen =)
>
> Gimme a break! Seas don't freeze! Why I have been to the largest ocean in the world hundreds of
> times here in California, and it has never been close to freezing! ;-)

 

[Peter M Spirito]

I use a dual sided pedal with the spd on one side and a regular platform on the other. In traffic
etc i use the platform side, on the road the spd side. And yes I have experienced the embarassing
"zero speed crash"

Peter Spirito

> > If Clipless are not used, why? Thanks!
> > --
> > ________________________________________
> > h a r v w e l c h (victoria bc canuckistan) Sun EZ Sport
> > http://rideitbent.net/http://rideitbent.net
> > http://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htmhttp://rideitbent.net/ezseries.htm
>
> You just have to get Very familiar with the term "Anticipate."

 

[Markku Poysti]

Frozen sea picture, taken yesterday on my Espoo-Inkoo training trip.

http://hepso.dna.fi/misc/seaice.jpg

 

[Geob]

> Frozen sea picture, taken yesterday on my Espoo-Inkoo training trip.

Thanks fer the pic! And I was kidding about the ocean freezing. ;-) My daughter boogey-boards in Jan
and Feb on the central California coast. Warm and sunny weather, ocean in the high 50's F. I have no
intention of ever living somewhere where I can't do outside stuff for much of the year.

I like to go down the Baja peninsula and camp on the beach. I wear only a pair of shorts there. In
January, before sunup, I am out in the water and comfortable. I like to watch the porpoises swim
past a few feet away with the sun coming up behind them.

PS what is Espoo-Inkoo? I found a lot of references on Google, but being a linguistically-challenged
AmeriKan I couldn't read them.

PP Watch out, I heard we are going to invade Helsinki next.

GeoB

"If it moves, kill it! If it is alive, stomp it, otherwise pave it over! More is Better, Too Much is
just enough for I am an Amerikan! I am at the Center of the Universe, it revolves around me!