"Trevor Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I am not replying to anyone in particular. I have read some of the postings
and thought I would say a few things.
I think it's rather odd that atheism was ruled by the supreme court as a
religion in 1961.
http://www.dakotavoice.com/200508/20050820_1.asp
The Supreme Court has said that a religion need not be based on a belief in
the existence of a supreme being. In the 1961 case of Torcaso v. Watkins,
the Court described "secular humanism" as a religion.
I also find the think soy's of people who claim to be Christian's
disturbing, since what they are writing as fact is not really. Christian's
are supposed to read the bible.
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needed not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth. KJV
Science and the bible complement one another. Where the bible talks about
things centuries before it's proven by science.
In Astronomy the bible says in Proverbs 8:27 written between 1033-975 B.C.
Proverbs 8:27 "When He inscribed a circle on the face of the deep," NASB
Another example is in Isaiah 40:22 which is written about 745-695 B.C.
Where the earth is described as a circle or ball.
Isaiah 40:22 It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, KJV
Aristotle believed the earth to be round in shape, because ships disappear
over the horizon and the shape of the earth on the moon during an eclipse
seen on the moon. 384-322 B.C. To bad only his students believed the
evidences he presented.
In 1520 A.D. the earth was still believed to be flat until the voyages of
Columbus and Magellan along with the introduction of the compass.
The bible says the earth isn't supported or not sitting on anything. Job
26:7 says the earth hangs on nothing written about 2000 B.C. Yet the history
of science still believed in the Ptolemy system, which says the earth was
rigidly supported and all movement was in the heavens. This is before 1543
A.D. Remember in grade school they told us that before Columbus if you went
to far out you would fall off the edge of the earth.
Job 26:7 He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the
earth upon nothing. KJV
You can find many examples of science written in the bible on the subjects
of astronomy, geology, oceanography, meteorology, physics, biology and
archaeology. There are many books written showing the bible to give
scientific fact centuries before science proved bible facts were indeed
true. One of them is "HAS GOD SPOKEN" written by an engineer A. O. Schnabel.
You can buy this book on the web if you do a search for it.
A lot of people talk about dinosaurs and man living at the same time on the
earth. We have a bible account in Job describing a large animal that Job had
seen which bends his tail like a cedar. If there are other examples of this
I haven't found them yet.
Job 40:15-17
15 "Behold now, Behemoth, which I made as well as you;
He eats grass like an ox.
16 "Behold now, his strength in his loins,
And his power in the muscles of his belly.
17 "He bends his tail like a cedar ;
The sinews of his thighs are knit together. NASB
I have not found an honest Preacher who would give a date of how old the
earth is. The bible doesn't say exactly. Some count the genealogies to
arrive at a date of the earth, yet what does the bible say about that.
1Timothy 1:3-5 As I urged you upon my departure for Macedonia, remain on at
Ephesus, in order that you may instruct certain men not to teach strange
doctrines, 4 nor to pay attention to myths and endless genealogies, which
give rise to mere speculation rather than furthering the administration of
God which is by faith.
NASB
Many Jews converted to Christianity by the thousands as written in the
book of Acts. In James 1:1 it say's "to the twelve tribes". Which is a way
of honoring those Jews who converted to Christ. The old testament shows how
God dealt with the Jews every time they turned from him to worship other
gods. The old testament has about 350 prophecies pointing to Jesus the
Christ, which is the one the Jews were waiting to come. The promise of
salvation was made to the Jews first, then everyone else.
Romans 1:16-17
For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation
to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek.
NASB
This verse is a quote from Jesus showing there is no male or female in
heaven, but we are like the angels. What was that nonsense about getting a
bunch of virgins in the after life?
Matthew 22:30-31
"For in the resurrection they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but
are like angels in heaven. NASB
This verse shows that the devil has his own angels.
Matthew 25:41
"Then He will also say to those on His left, 'Depart from Me, accursed ones,
into the eternal fire which has been prepared for the devil and his angels ;
NASB
This verse shows what happens to those who do not confess and follow Jesus
the Christ.
Luke 12:8-9
"And I say to you, everyone who confesses Me before men, the Son of Man
shall confess him also before the angels of God; 9 but he who denies Me
before men shall be denied before the angels of God.
NASB
Angels who sin will be cast into hell.
2 Peter 2:4-5
For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell
and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment;
NASB
There is a lot to know about God and Jesus and the only way to know is to
read the bible. If you do that you will see that it takes more than lip
service to God to get to heaven and by what I have read many who claim to be
Christians will not make it, unless they study their bible and do what it
says. Remember that the devil not only believes in GOD, but has spoken to
him and where is he going to spend eternity. So where does your belief only
leave you?
The promise is to those who believe and are baptized into Christ and
continue in the faith.
Mark 16:16-17
"He who has believed and has been baptized shall be saved; but he who has
disbelieved shall be condemned.
NASB
Jude 3-4
Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common
salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend
earnestly for the faith which was once for all delivered to the saints. 4
For certain persons have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand
marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our
God into licentiousness and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.
NASB
The bible says you are to study to show yourself approved of GOD. Nowhere
can you find anyone who prayed their way to heaven like in the believers
prayer. You should pray for guidance to find you way. You cannot find a
passage that says the preacher can study for you. You must do it yourself.
2 Timothy 2:15-16Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that
needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.16 But shun
profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness.
KJV
Richard W.
