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Chain overshifts off outer chainring

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  1. Hello all,

    Could use some advanced tech advice.

    I swapped out 54/44 chainrings for 50/38. Followed Shimano specs when I
    lowered the shifter. After making the change the chain would repeatedly
    roll off the outer ring (i.e. going from small to large ring). When I
    increase the size of the middle ring to 40 problem goes away which indicates
    I have the shifter adjusted OK.

    Anyone know if a 12 tooth change is too much or is a shifter that can handle
    a 54 tooth ring too large for a 50 tooth ring?

    Also wondering if filing down one tooth on either or both rings might help
    the problem. Thought before I file I'd check to see if anyone had thoughts
    on subject

    Thanks for any advice

    Bob Brubaker
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  2. Quoted message said:

    I swapped out 54/44 chainrings for 50/38. Followed Shimano specs when I
    lowered the shifter. After making the change the chain would repeatedly
    roll off the outer ring (i.e. going from small to large ring). When I
    increase the size of the middle ring to 40 problem goes away which


    indicates

    Quoted message said:

    I have the shifter adjusted OK.

    Anyone know if a 12 tooth change is too much or is a shifter that can


    handle

    Quoted message said:

    a 54 tooth ring too large for a 50 tooth ring?

    Also wondering if filing down one tooth on either or both rings might help
    the problem. Thought before I file I'd check to see if anyone had


    thoughts

    Quoted message said:

    on subject

    Don't file the teeth; that's not going to help anything. My guess is that
    the angle of the derailleur is off a bit. In general, when you're in the
    large front/small rear combo, the derailleur's outer cage plate should be
    just slightly pointed out at the back (away from the chain & wheel). Not
    much, just slightly. You might have it parallel or even inboard a bit,
    requiring that the limit screw be moved out further than it ought to be in
    able to get it to shift up.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

  3. Thanks Mike I'll try that.

    On the stand I notice that when the plate displaces the chain enough to get
    it off the small ring, the chain is actually past the outer ring. With the
    40 tooth that doesn't happen. Be interesting to see what changing the angle
    does.

    Bob

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    Quoted message said:

    I swapped out 54/44 chainrings for 50/38. Followed Shimano specs when I
    lowered the shifter. After making the change the chain would repeatedly
    roll off the outer ring (i.e. going from small to large ring). When I
    increase the size of the middle ring to 40 problem goes away which


    indicates

    Quoted message said:

    I have the shifter adjusted OK.

    Anyone know if a 12 tooth change is too much or is a shifter that can


    handle

    Quoted message said:

    a 54 tooth ring too large for a 50 tooth ring?

    Also wondering if filing down one tooth on either or both rings might help
    the problem. Thought before I file I'd check to see if anyone had


    thoughts

    Quoted message said:

    on subject

    Don't file the teeth; that's not going to help anything. My guess is that
    the angle of the derailleur is off a bit. In general, when you're in the
    large front/small rear combo, the derailleur's outer cage plate should be
    just slightly pointed out at the back (away from the chain & wheel). Not
    much, just slightly. You might have it parallel or even inboard a bit,
    requiring that the limit screw be moved out further than it ought to be in
    able to get it to shift up.

    --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles
    www.ChainReactionBicycles.com

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