CD mapping

Gordon Harris said:

Not sure of the total area of mine, but I wish my PC had 1Gb of memory,
when I drag the map around fully zoomed out, there is much thrashing of
the disc. The processor is fast enough at 3.4Ghz, and the hard disc
is 250Gb, but 512Mb of memory isn't enough to prevent a lot of disc
activity

I've never opened any case. Do you simply buy something and literally
slot it in? Do you have to do strange, impenetrable things with DOS?
Do you need soldering skills? Can anything go wrong? How do you know
where to put it? Do any essential ethers escape when you open the lid?

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PC world is about the last place to try (right ahead of Tiny)

Not if you know what you want it's not. If you know enough
about what you're looking for you can go and get it or ask a
droid to get it for you, pay for it, and leave the shop. The
problems come when you don't know exactly what you want and
thus find yourself at the mercy of shopdroids who equally
don't know what you want but are determined to sell it to you
anyway.
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If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs...
then you've failed to grasp some important aspect of the
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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Fran <[email hidden]> said

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Quoted message said:

PC world is about the last place to try (right ahead of Tiny)

Not if you know what you want it's not. If you know enough
about what you're looking for you can go and get it or ask a
droid to get it for you, pay for it, and leave the shop. The
problems come when you don't know exactly what you want and
thus find yourself at the mercy of shopdroids who equally
don't know what you want but are determined to sell it to you
anyway.

Nope, the problems come when you open the box that says 'ISDN TA' and
discover that someone has already opened it, stolen the CD's, and left a
4 port serial card instead of the aforementioned ISDN TA. Trust me, I've
been there. (and yes, I got my money and my petrol costs refunded).

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Rooney <[email hidden]> said

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Gordon Harris said:

Not sure of the total area of mine, but I wish my PC had 1Gb of memory,
when I drag the map around fully zoomed out, there is much thrashing of
the disc. The processor is fast enough at 3.4Ghz, and the hard disc
is 250Gb, but 512Mb of memory isn't enough to prevent a lot of disc
activity

I've never opened any case. Do you simply buy something and literally
slot it in?

Yes. PC's are just big-kids-Lego these days. You can put the whole thing
together using 1 Philips screwdriver (although my cases all use
thumbscrews) in <1 hour. Then it takes 2 weeks to get the software
working right (not for adding memory .. for building a PC from scratch).

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Do you have to do strange, impenetrable things with DOS?

No.

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Do you need soldering skills?

No. In fact we'd prefer you'd never heard of soldering. 8>.

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Can anything go wrong?

Yes, you can force it in the wrong way round, or buy the wrong sort
(although if you tell Crucial the truth about your PC they'll make that
almost impossible). It also requires some manual dexterity (can you tie
laces? Ok, you have it covered then). Oh yes, it helps to turn the power
off (but leave the mains plug in the wall to give you an earthed case to
ground yourself on) before you start.

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How do you know
where to put it?

You look at the (usually) two modules that are already there, and then
put it in the spare slot next to them. OK, on some motherboards you need
to fill slots in particular order(s), but usually not.

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Do any essential ethers escape when you open the lid?

Not if you're real quick. 8>.

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I thinking of buying a CD mapping system for a 50th birthday present
later this year, and looking for some advice on where to start.

Ideally would like 1:25,000 mapping. Would probably look to start with
the Lake District.

So far I've come across Mapwise 25 (ISYS Outdoors) and Anquet.

What should I look out for?

For people who have brought, do you find you make good use of the
product or have you returned to paper based maps?

Thanks

Jackie

I have Memory Map OS 2004 in both 1:25,000 and 1:50,000 complete with
the aerial photographs. Like Roony said about Anquet, you can plan your
route, mark it on the map as a series of waypoints and then upload it to
GPS. Also you can print the map out either to scale or any size you
wish.

I've taken to printing my more popular walks out and then running them
through the laminator at work to create permanent maps.

I can't recommend it enough, it's a fantastic product.

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Regards

Nick

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Quoted message said:

Gordon Harris said:

Not sure of the total area of mine, but I wish my PC had 1Gb of memory,
when I drag the map around fully zoomed out, there is much thrashing of
the disc. The processor is fast enough at 3.4Ghz, and the hard disc
is 250Gb, but 512Mb of memory isn't enough to prevent a lot of disc
activity

I've never opened any case. Do you simply buy something and literally
slot it in?

No.

Quoted message said:

Do you have to do strange, impenetrable things with DOS?

No.

Quoted message said:

Do you need soldering skills?

No.

Quoted message said:

Can anything go wrong?

Yes.

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How do you know where to put it?

Does it fit there?
Y - put it there
N - don't put it there

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Do any essential ethers escape when you open the lid?

Probably.

HTH.
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If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs...
then you've failed to grasp some important aspect of the
situation.

Thanks Nick

At the moment I'm leaning towards memory map - but we are going to get
trial CD's to check out which the birthday boy prefers.

Ta,

Jackie

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Quoted message said:

I thinking of buying a CD mapping system for a 50th birthday present
later this year, and looking for some advice on where to start.

Ideally would like 1:25,000 mapping. Would probably look to start with
the Lake District.

So far I've come across Mapwise 25 (ISYS Outdoors) and Anquet.

What should I look out for?

For people who have brought, do you find you make good use of the
product or have you returned to paper based maps?

I use Anquet with OS mapping and a friend recently purchased an Anquet
Lakedistrict Harvey map(superscale). The Harvey maps contain much more
detail that are important for walkers. More details however make them harder
to read. IMO the different contourlines are no problem at all. All the other
Anquet features are very usefull and fun to use.

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Theo
www.theosphotos.fotopic.net

GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> writes

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon Harris

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PCWorld want about 70 squid for 512Mb, but there's a dealer just
outside Stockport I may try.

www.crucial.co.uk is the best place. Guaranteed compatibility,
delivered (usually) next day, reasonable prices (for stuff that's
actually tested). You will need to tell their configurator what machine
you have .. after that it's a doddle.

Thanks. I will try them if I decide to upgrade, but as you said, it
may not make an appreciable difference to Tracklogs 'map dragging'.

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PC world is about the last place to try (right ahead of Tiny)

I have never bought RAM from then, and was recommended to go to the
other place I mentioned by one of PCW's staff!
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Gordon Harris

Gordon Harris said:

GSV Three Minds in a Can <[email hidden]> writes

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Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the wonderful
person Gordon Harris

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PCWorld want about 70 squid for 512Mb, but there's a dealer just
outside Stockport I may try.

www.crucial.co.uk is the best place. Guaranteed compatibility,
delivered (usually) next day, reasonable prices (for stuff that's
actually tested). You will need to tell their configurator what machine
you have .. after that it's a doddle.

Thanks. I will try them if I decide to upgrade, but as you said, it
may not make an appreciable difference to Tracklogs 'map dragging'.

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PC world is about the last place to try (right ahead of Tiny)

I have never bought RAM from then, and was recommended to go to the
other place I mentioned by one of PCW's staff!

Can recommend Crucial.

Norman

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Quoted message said:

PC world is about the last place to try (right ahead of Tiny)

I have never bought RAM from then, and was recommended to go to the
other place I mentioned by one of PCW's staff!

Which just goes to show that by the law of averages even PCW
occasionally get some staff who know what they're doing. I'd
work there myself if the hours and pay were right - and I
wouldn't be afraid to admit to my ignorance. Thinking about
it, they'd probably sack me for honesty...
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If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs...
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situation.

Fran said:

Thinking about
it, they'd probably sack me for honesty...

I wonder how many people would prefer honesty in a salesman - I'm sure
it increases sales!

A few years ago I was buying a seconhand car at a car supermarket. I'd
been round all the dealers and franchises in the area first, and just
about every single one was filled with pouncing, smarmy, sales-speak
people, some of whom were so utterly cringeworthy as to to make me
severely embarassed for them. I got to Fords of Winsford in Cheshire,
fearing the worst, and was utterly shocked by the (perfectly pleasant)
salesman. He said - just tell me what you want to look at and I'll get
you the keys. Then he walked away. Half an hour later I went in and
asked for 3 sets of keys. He handed them over and said - give me a
shout if you need any info.
Another half hour later, back I went with a few questions: 'Sorry, I
don't know', was his reply.

Test drive: the only words he spoke were to point out that I'd
accidentally engaged 5th instead of 3rd.

I left with a cracking car that I actually *enjoyed* buying.

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Rooney said:

Fran said:

Thinking about
it, they'd probably sack me for honesty...

I wonder how many people would prefer honesty in a salesman - I'm sure
it increases sales!

A few years ago I was buying a seconhand car at a car supermarket. I'd
been round all the dealers and franchises in the area first, and just
about every single one was filled with pouncing, smarmy, sales-speak
people, some of whom were so utterly cringeworthy as to to make me
severely embarassed for them. I got to Fords of Winsford in Cheshire,
fearing the worst, and was utterly shocked by the (perfectly pleasant)
salesman. He said - just tell me what you want to look at and I'll get
you the keys. Then he walked away. Half an hour later I went in and
asked for 3 sets of keys. He handed them over and said - give me a
shout if you need any info.
Another half hour later, back I went with a few questions: 'Sorry, I
don't know', was his reply.

Test drive: the only words he spoke were to point out that I'd
accidentally engaged 5th instead of 3rd.

I left with a cracking car that I actually *enjoyed* buying.

then on the other hand, tongue in cheek, the sales person could have
been depressed or disgruntled with his employer. His apparent lack of
empathy for your needs showing in the way you were neglected while
choosing your car.
Maybe you would like a similar experience when buying a pair of
trousers. lol.

Norman

Norman said:

Maybe you would like a similar experience when buying a pair of
trousers. lol.

Norman

Tailors used to be populated by the same type - either that no longer
happens, or I shop differently!
Another thing I hate (besides having my inside leg groped by strange
men) - being called 'Sir'! For me, obsequiousness = no purchase.

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Tailors used to be populated by the same type - either that no longer
happens, or I shop differently!

A pal of mine used to work part time on Saturdays in a local gents
outfitters. His attitude was a bit on the cavalier side, not really
bothered if he worked there or not. With this in mind he spotted one of
the full time employees who was a bit creepy and "nice" tending to a
gentleman trying to flog him a jacket. My pall sidled up behind the gent
and whispered in "Welsh" that it looked like a sack on him. The full
timer was disappointed that the gent didn't buy the coat, not realising
what my pal had said.
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

W. D. Grey said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Rooney
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Tailors used to be populated by the same type - either that no longer
happens, or I shop differently!

A pal of mine used to work part time on Saturdays in a local gents
outfitters. His attitude was a bit on the cavalier side, not really
bothered if he worked there or not. With this in mind he spotted one of
the full time employees who was a bit creepy and "nice" tending to a
gentleman trying to flog him a jacket. My pall sidled up behind the gent
and whispered in "Welsh" that it looked like a sack on him. The full
timer was disappointed that the gent didn't buy the coat, not realising
what my pal had said.

Ha ha! Good for him!
I must re-learn my 'Catchphrase' BBC Welsh - I'm thinking of living
there for a while, among you godforsaken slow-driving sheep-sh*gging
Methodists.
My daughter is thinking of going to Aber in the autumn. She liked the
look of it. She said, 'The only thing that's putting me off is that
I've heard that the Welsh people stop talking English when you go into
the pub and start talking Welsh.'
I said, 'They do that all the time, whether you're there or not. Just
learn some Welsh and you'll be fine.'
And she will be. You only need a few words to break the ice.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Rooney
<[email hidden]> writes

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W. D. Grey said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Rooney
<[email hidden]> writes

Quoted message said:

Tailors used to be populated by the same type - either that no longer
happens, or I shop differently!

A pal of mine used to work part time on Saturdays in a local gents
outfitters. His attitude was a bit on the cavalier side, not really
bothered if he worked there or not. With this in mind he spotted one of
the full time employees who was a bit creepy and "nice" tending to a
gentleman trying to flog him a jacket. My pall sidled up behind the gent
and whispered in "Welsh" that it looked like a sack on him. The full
timer was disappointed that the gent didn't buy the coat, not realising
what my pal had said.

Ha ha! Good for him!
I must re-learn my 'Catchphrase' BBC Welsh - I'm thinking of living
there for a while, among you godforsaken slow-driving sheep-sh*gging
Methodists.
My daughter is thinking of going to Aber in the autumn. She liked the
look of it. She said, 'The only thing that's putting me off is that
I've heard that the Welsh people stop talking English when you go into
the pub and start talking Welsh.'
I said, 'They do that all the time, whether you're there or not. Just
learn some Welsh and you'll be fine.'
And she will be. You only need a few words to break the ice.

Don't forget your wellies though :-)

Fran has learned Welsh and holds a fine conversation when she needs to.

It is not the easiest of languages to learn as there are several levels
of Welsh from colloquial through commercial / official Welsh to literary
Welsh.

We do tend to apostrophise very heavily in colloquial Welsh and a brand
new learner would have serious difficulties understanding us.
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Bill Grey
http://www.billboy.co.uk

W. D. Grey said:

Don't forget your wellies though :-)

Fran has learned Welsh and holds a fine conversation when she needs to.

It is not the easiest of languages to learn as there are several levels
of Welsh from colloquial through commercial / official Welsh to literary
Welsh.

We do tend to apostrophise very heavily in colloquial Welsh and a brand
new learner would have serious difficulties understanding us.

Yes - a few months of immersion in the culture and language would
probably help a lot more than a couple of hours a week using a
book/cassette course.

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My daughter is thinking of going to Aber in the autumn. She liked the
look of it.

I've got some very good friends who were at Aber. Apparently
it's a fantastic place to be and very friendly. What's your
lass going to be studying? One of my friends actually lives
in Aber still - you want friendly contact details for a non-
Welsh (AFAIK) speaking sheddi for her?
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If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs...
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Fran has learned Welsh and holds a fine conversation when she needs to.

Coo, thanks! That's high praise from Bill, 'cos he speaks the
language extremely well himself.

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It is not the easiest of languages to learn as there are several levels
of Welsh from colloquial through commercial / official Welsh to literary
Welsh.

It's a lot easier than English! How do you explain why both
and moth don't rhyme, any more than do bother and mother? And
just which of the 7 ways of pronouncing 'ough' should one use,
and how can you tell? Blessed if I know :-)

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We do tend to apostrophise very heavily in colloquial Welsh and a brand
new learner would have serious difficulties understanding us.

But no problem at all understanding me, 'cos the sort of Welsh
with which I'm most familiar is the more colloquial variety.
Then again, I can speak perfectly good English an' all :-)
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If you can keep your head when all around are losing theirs...
then you've failed to grasp some important aspect of the
situation.