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Another victim of the vitamin/enema/wankery approach
to cancer.

From: nydailynews.com209007pOpen ↗
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Dr. Atkins killed me, suit says

Cancer victim faulted diet guru's 'quackery'

By HELEN PETERSON and DON SINGLETON DAILY NEWS STAFF
WRITER

From beyond the grave, a woman who died of breast cancer
is suing the late

diet

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guru Dr. Robert Atkins for giving her the advice that she
says ended up

costing

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her life. The suit, seeking unspecified damages, was filed
in Manhattan Supreme

Court by

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the estate of Carol Rubick, a woman who died of breast
cancer on Jan. 18,

2003,

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after receiving five years of oncological treatments at
the Atkins Center

for

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Complementary Medicine.

The plaintiff, Linda Lou Poag, executrix of Rubick's
estate, claims that

Atkins

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and two other doctors at the Atkins Center were negligent
in treating

Rubick's

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cancer.

In 1995, Rubick, then 39, underwent a lumpectomy of her
right breast for treatment of stage two breast cancer,
according to court papers. The

surgeon -

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not affiliated with Atkins - referred Rubick to a
traditional oncologist

for

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chemotherapy.

Rubick decided instead to pursue "alternative care" with
Dr. Atkins, care

that

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consisted of such "quackery" as dietary manipulation,
enemas and vitamin therapy, the suit says.

In 2000, a new lump developed in Rubick's right breast and
she underwent a mastectomy. Less than three years later,
she died.

This is the other side of the story with those testimnials
where a woman has a lumpectomy for breast cancer, but
refuses the adjuvant treatment (radiotherapy +/-
chemotherapy) usually advised to reduce the risk of local
recurrence if the breast is to be preserved and to treat
possible micrometatastases and decides to entrust her life
to alternatives. We can predict some will get away with it
if the lumpectomy has been well clear of the cancer and they
are lucky enough to have a less aggressive kind of cancer..

By the same token it has to be admitted that stage 11 breast
cancer will lead to the death on many women regardless of
any treatment. If in the right age group have mammography
performed. This is also proved to reduce mortality.

Peter mroan

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Poag's suit includes a physician's opinion that Rubick
died "as a result

of the

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care and treatment rendered by the defendants," and by
their failure to

advise

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her to go for chemotherapy.

An Internet search last week for information on the Atkins
Center turned

up an

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undated Web site carrying the following message: "Dr.
Atkins is cutting

back on

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his cancer practice - He is only doing cancer prevention
and he does have

a

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unique hormonal program for prostate cancer. He is
focusing on his diet program."

In last week's published decision, Justice Joan Carey
allowed the suit to proceed, granting a renewal of the
original complaint, which was filed

before

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the deaths of Rubick and Atkins.

Neither Poag; Rubick's lawyer, Roger Kunkis, nor Dawn
Bristol, attorney

for

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Atkins and his co-defendants, Drs. Fred Pescatore and
Lawrence Kempf,

could be

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reached for comment yesterday.

A spokesman for Veronica Atkins, Atkins' widow, did not
return a

reporter's

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phone calls yesterday.

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you put in it. Nice fake but no cigar.

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Another victim of the vitamin/enema/wankery approach
to cancer.

From: nydailynews.com209007pOpen ↗
180119c.html

Dr. Atkins killed me, suit says

Cancer victim faulted diet guru's 'quackery'

By HELEN PETERSON and DON SINGLETON DAILY NEWS STAFF
WRITER

From beyond the grave, a woman who died of breast cancer
is suing the late

diet

Quoted message said:

guru Dr. Robert Atkins for giving her the advice that she
says ended up

costing

Quoted message said:

her life. The suit, seeking unspecified damages, was filed
in Manhattan Supreme

Court by

Quoted message said:

the estate of Carol Rubick, a woman who died of breast
cancer on Jan. 18,

2003,

Quoted message said:

after receiving five years of oncological treatments at
the Atkins Center

for

Quoted message said:

Complementary Medicine.

The plaintiff, Linda Lou Poag, executrix of Rubick's
estate, claims that

Atkins

Quoted message said:

and two other doctors at the Atkins Center were negligent
in treating

Rubick's

Quoted message said:

cancer.

In 1995, Rubick, then 39, underwent a lumpectomy of her
right breast for treatment of stage two breast cancer,
according to court papers. The

surgeon -

Quoted message said:

not affiliated with Atkins - referred Rubick to a
traditional oncologist

for

Quoted message said:

chemotherapy.

Rubick decided instead to pursue "alternative care" with
Dr. Atkins, care

that

Quoted message said:

consisted of such "quackery" as dietary manipulation,
enemas and vitamin therapy, the suit says.

In 2000, a new lump developed in Rubick's right breast and
she underwent a mastectomy. Less than three years later,
she died.

Poag's suit includes a physician's opinion that Rubick
died "as a result

of the

Quoted message said:

care and treatment rendered by the defendants," and by
their failure to

advise

Quoted message said:

her to go for chemotherapy.

An Internet search last week for information on the Atkins
Center turned

up an

Quoted message said:

undated Web site carrying the following message: "Dr.
Atkins is cutting

back on

Quoted message said:

his cancer practice - He is only doing cancer prevention
and he does have

a

Quoted message said:

unique hormonal program for prostate cancer. He is
focusing on his diet program."

In last week's published decision, Justice Joan Carey
allowed the suit to proceed, granting a renewal of the
original complaint, which was filed

before

Quoted message said:

the deaths of Rubick and Atkins.

Neither Poag; Rubick's lawyer, Roger Kunkis, nor Dawn
Bristol, attorney

for

Quoted message said:

Atkins and his co-defendants, Drs. Fred Pescatore and
Lawrence Kempf,

could be

Quoted message said:

reached for comment yesterday.

A spokesman for Veronica Atkins, Atkins' widow, did not
return a

reporter's

Quoted message said:

phone calls yesterday.

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In 1995, Rubick, then 39, underwent a lumpectomy of her
right breast for treatment of stage two breast cancer,
according to court papers. The

surgeon -

Quoted message said:

not affiliated with Atkins - referred Rubick to a
traditional oncologist

for

Quoted message said:

chemotherapy.

Rubick decided instead to pursue "alternative care" with
Dr. Atkins, care

that

Quoted message said:

consisted of such "quackery" as dietary manipulation,
enemas and vitamin therapy, the suit says.

In 2000, a new lump developed in Rubick's right breast
and she underwent a mastectomy. Less than three years
later, she died.

This is the other side of the story with those testimnials
where a woman has a lumpectomy for breast cancer, but
refuses the adjuvant treatment (radiotherapy +/-
chemotherapy) usually advised to reduce the risk of local
recurrence if the breast is to be preserved and to treat
possible micrometatastases and decides to entrust her life
to alternatives. We can predict some will get away with it
if the lumpectomy has been well clear of the cancer and
they are lucky enough to have a less aggressive kind of
cancer..

Indeed. For example, for an early stage tumor less than 2
cm, if the surgical margins are clear, the local recurrence
rate can be expected to be around 33% or so. Radiation
decreases that by a factor of two or three. That means 2/3
of women who undergo clear margin lumpectomies will not
recur in the same breast.

Similarly, chemotherapy gives an an absolute survival
benefit that ranges from only a few percent for "curable"
Stage I cancers to maybe three or four times that few
percent for potentially "curable" Stage III cancers. What
that means is that, for Stage I cancers, a significant
proportion are "cured" with surgery alone. The problem is,
we can't predict ahead of time who those women will be. Even
for Stage III cancers, which have a five year survival
hovering in the 50% range, even with chemotherapy and
radiation, there will be a subset of women who are still
"cured" with surgery alone and no adjuvant chemotherapy or
radiation. This is much less common than for early stage
women, but these women still exist. This means that there
are the occasional women with Stage III disease who refuse
conventional adjuvant radiation and chemotherapy in favor of
alternatives and are then lucky enough not to recur. Their
existence does not indicate that the alternatives did
anything, although they sometimes become pitchwomen for the
alternatives they opted for.

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By the same token it has to be admitted that stage 11
breast cancer will lead to the death on many women
regardless of any treatment. If in the right age group
have mammography performed. This is also proved to reduce
mortality.

Quite true. For example, the overall five year survival for
Stage I breast cancer is in the 92-95% range. That means
that there will still be some unfortunate women with early
stage cancer who, regardless of therapy, will recur and die
of their disease after seeming "curative" treatment.

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