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Cancer and Mice

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  1. In the blood or in the gut?
    I'm currently having discussions with some guy who cited that enzymes pass
    through the gut wall intact.
    I'm not sure I'm convinced they do.
    Anth

    "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Rich Andrews <[email hidden]> posted: 003 07-23-03 12:01
    N0> PS. Pauling was a nut when it came to Vit. C. If his theory about
    N0> VIt. C was correct, why did he die of cancer even though he took
    N0> megadoses of Vit. C?

    Maybe because of old age [94], his immune system was shot???
    Maybe Pauling should be taken a good digestive enzyme product,
    too??????

    Because digestive enzymes "digest" away the material around
    the cancer cell so the immune system can then destroy the
    cancer cell????????

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  2. In said:

    In the blood or in the gut?
    I'm currently having discussions with some guy who cited that enzymes pass
    through the gut wall intact.
    I'm not sure I'm convinced they do.

    Better hope not, because the gut is full of proteolytic enzymes.

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  3. Rich Andrews <[email hidden]> posted: 003 07-23-03 12:01
    N0> PS. Pauling was a nut when it came to Vit. C. If his theory about
    N0> VIt. C was correct, why did he die of cancer even though he took
    N0> megadoses of Vit. C?

    Maybe because of old age [94], his immune system was shot???
    Maybe Pauling should be taken a good digestive enzyme product,
    too??????

    Because digestive enzymes "digest" away the material around
    the cancer cell so the immune system can then destroy the
    cancer cell????????

    .... End of message 23 Jul 03 11:59
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  4. http://www.doctormurray.com/articles/pdfs/ProteolyticsInCancer.pdf
    Interesting PDF - wish the guy would cite studies and proofs.
    Anth

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    Quoted message said:
    In said:

    In the blood or in the gut?
    I'm currently having discussions with some guy who cited that enzymes


    pass

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    through the gut wall intact.
    I'm not sure I'm convinced they do.

    Better hope not, because the gut is full of proteolytic enzymes.

    --
    | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make |
    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
    | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
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  5. Hi,

    I believe the article was referenced. It is well accepted that
    proteolytic enzymes are absorbed intact. Here are a few references to
    get you started.

    Sincerely,

    Leipner J, Saller R: Systemic enzyme therapy in oncology: effect and
    mode of action. Drugs. 2000;59:769-80.

    Ambrus JL, et al.: Absorption of exogenous and endogenous proteolytic
    enzymes. Clin Pharmacol Therap 1967;8:362-8.

    Kleine MW, et al.: The intestinal absorption of orally administered
    hydrolytic enzymes and their effects in the treatment of acute herpes
    zoster as compared with those of oral acyclovir therapy. Phytomedicine
    1995;2:7-15.

    Majima Y, et al.: The effect of an orally administered proteolytic
    enzyme on the elasticity and viscosity of nasal mucus. Arch
    Otorhinolaryngol. 1988;244(6):355-9.

    Castell JV, et al. Intestinal absorption of undegraded proteins in men:
    presence of bromelain in plasma after oral intake. Am J Physiol. 1997
    Jul;273(1 Pt 1):G139-46.

    -----Original Message-----
    From:
    Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:06 PM
    To:
    Subject: Question for Dr.
    On your site state that proteolytic enzymes are absorbed through the gut
    wall and into the bloodstream.
    Do you have any research papers/links that back your assertions up?
    Thanks
    Anthony

    "D. C. Sessions" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    In said:

    In the blood or in the gut?
    I'm currently having discussions with some guy who cited that enzymes


    pass

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    through the gut wall intact.
    I'm not sure I'm convinced they do.

    Better hope not, because the gut is full of proteolytic enzymes.

    --
    | Microsoft: "A reputation for releasing inferior software will make |
    | it more difficult for a software vendor to induce customers to pay |
    | for new products or new versions of existing products." |
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