Canadian Tire bike: Super Cycle Gravity



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Cam

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Hi all,

Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
which have features such as front disc brake and full
suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
other (better known) bikes with these features in this
price range?

Here is the link (hope it works): http://www.canadiantire.c-
a/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524-
443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302209441&FOLDER%3C-
%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=25343-
74302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302741447&ASSORTME-
NT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bmUID=1079771735801

I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?

Cam
 
cam wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?
>
> Here is the link (hope it works):
>
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?P-
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i d=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=-
2534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrowse Path=2534374302432155&F-
OLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efo lder_-
id=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027-
&bmUID=10797 71735801
>
> I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
> buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
>
> Cam

Oh boy! I'm closing my eyes and ears on this one. Let 'em
rip folks!

--
o-o-o-o Ride-A-Lot o-o-o-o
www.schnauzers.ws
 
"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?

I think he's joking...
 
In article <[email protected]>, cam <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?
>
> Here is the link (hope it works): http://www.canadiantire-
> .ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=
> 845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302209441&F-
> OLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath
> =2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447-
> =&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_i
> d=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=140847439534802-
> 7&bmUID=1079771735801

http://tinyurl.com/3bvan

Picture:

http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/BicyclesAccessor-
ies/BikesAdult /0711284_450_CC_2c8f7.jpg

http://tinyurl.com/2qnha

Okay, for the price, I'm sure it's great. The fork is a
brand nobody here has ever heard of, the componentry is low-
end Shimano, probably Acera from the looks and the 8-speed
rear end, and I'm fascinated by the provenance of that rear
shock. The front disc looks like it might be the very
respectable Avid Ball Bearing design.

Is it a durable bike? Depends on what you want to do with
it. It's clearly the worst of all worlds: as a bike-path
bike, it would suffer from high weight and inefficient
pedaling caused by the suspension (I'm thinking they didn't
put in a stable platform valve...). As a true off-road and
freeride bike, it's likely to suffer from too little
suspension travel (just a guess from looking at the fork),
bad or nonexistent suspension damping, and probable
fragility.

If you know exactly what you are doing, you might be able to
get the wheels nice and true, and ride it some. I doubt the
experience would ever be pleasant.

> I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
> buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?

For C$300, your best value is probably a nice used hardtail,
V-brakes front and rear, with a half-decent front fork.
Locally, I'd recommend Sports Junkies or The Buy & Sell, but
in either case you have to know what you're looking at.

But since you're already starting at Canadian Tire, I'm
assuming you're not a sophisticated consumer of mountain
bikes. In which case I'd go to a local bike shop, and see if
they can set you up with a low-end hardtail for about $300.
It will be similar in spec to the SuperCycle, but you will
get the advantage of a proper fit on the bike, and proper
assembly of the bicycle, two things which are just about
nonexistent for department-store bicycles.

Bikes without rear suspension are great to ride on mildly
bumpy trails: they absorb some of the bumps with their front
suspension, but don't suffer from the inefficient pedaling
of full-suspension bicycles. There are bikes that have rear
suspension and pretty good pedaling, but they sell for at
least four times your budget.

If you actually intend to ride this SuperCycle down serious
trails, I'd be very afraid. Even before the bike simply fell
apart because its rear suspension is made cheaply (hint:
suspension pivots are very hard to get right) and it was
never assembled properly, I'd bet that the marginal
suspension system would make the ride a chore. It probably
has a virtually undamped rear shock, which means that every
time the suspension gets compressed by a bump, it will hop
back into place much too quickly, potentially lifting the
rear wheel and generally making a mess of serious bike
dynamics. Again, better to be on a hardtail than fighting
that all the way down the hill.

This seems like a long posting to tell you "department store
bikes suck. Get a Norco/Kona/Specialized/Brodie/whatever,"
but I hope by articulating the problems in detail, you'll
understand why most people who respond to this thread are
going to encourage you to raise your budget and lower your
expectations.

For my part, faced with a similar budget and a desire for a
serious mountain bike, I bought a used Kona Kilauea, a 1997-
vintage bike with XT (pretty high end) components and a
Marzocchi Z.2, a short-travel fork by today's standards, but
one of the first really serious, properly damped forks made.
I paid $400, and at that price had to put in some more money
to change the fork seals and oil. I also upgraded the
wheels, though that was more because I got a good deal on
some nice rims and hubs (cost me less than C$100 plus my
labour to get together a WTB front disc hub, XT rear hub,
two Syncros Lil' Snapper double-wall rims, and enough spokes
to assemble it all).

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email protected]
http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club
 
On Sat, 20 Mar 2004 13:38:25 GMT, "TBF" <[email protected]> wrote:

>"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>news:[email protected]...
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
>> bikes, which have features such as front disc brake and
>> full suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has
>> anyone tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there
>> any other (better known) bikes with these features in
>> this price range?
>
>I think he's joking...
>
Ok he has to be joking... I hope. Canadian Tire was
known for their national ad campaign with a fork
installed backwards on one of their bikes . I had the
link to that picture, if I ever locate it I will post it
here for a laugh.

Mudhead
 
cam <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?
>
> Here is the link (hope it works): http://www.canadiantir-
> e.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=-
> 845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302209441&-
> FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3Ebrow-
> sePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302-
> 741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bmUID=107-
> 9771735801
>
> I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
> buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
>
> Cam

At $300cnd you'll only be out about $35 usd, so yeah,
it's worth it.
 
In article <[email protected]>,
[email protected] says...
> cam <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:<[email protected]>...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake and
> > full suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has
> > anyone tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are
> > there any other (better known) bikes with these features
> > in this price range?
> >
> > Here is the link (hope it works): http://www.canadianti-
> > re.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i-
> > d=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=25343743022094-
> > 41&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3E-
> > browsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=25343-
> > 74302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bmU-
> > ID=1079771735801
> >
> > I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> > brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> > someone be able to recommend an online store or forum
> > for buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in
> > Canada?
> >
> > Cam
>
> At $300cnd you'll only be out about $35 usd, so yeah, it's
> worth it.
>

Until you realize a real bike from a shop is only $5 USD
more.
--
_________________________
Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia http://www.ramsays-
online.com
 
"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?
>
> Here is the link (hope it works):
>
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?P-
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2-
534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOL-
DER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=-
2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bm-
UID=1079771735801
>
> I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
> buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
>
> Cam

I bought a bike from them about 4 yrs ago. its a 21 spd
front susspension
ccm. Paid $150 for it. it has over 8000km on it. Replaced
cables, tubes, front derailer, both tires, grips,
shifters, and soon replacing brakes.

the old saying -- you get what you pay for.

If all you can afford is $300, and this is the best that you
can find for what u want, then go for it.

What part of Canada do you live in?

You may want to ask them when it will be going on sale
next.... you may save even more $$$

Micheal
 
"Chris Phillipo" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> In article
> <[email protected]>,
> [email protected] says...
> > cam <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:<[email protected]>...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake
> > > and full suspension at the
attractive
> > > price of Cnd $300. Has anyone tried these bikes? Is it
> > > a durable bike? Are there any other (better known)
> > > bikes with these features in this price range?
> > >
> > > Here is the link (hope it works):
> > >
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?P-
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2-
534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOL-
DER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=-
2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bm-
UID=1079771735801
> > >
> > > I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual
> > > disc brakes and
full
> > > suspension in this price range. Would someone be able
> > > to recommend an online store or forum for buying
> > > discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
> > >
> > > Cam
> >
> > At $300cnd you'll only be out about $35 usd, so yeah,
> > it's worth it.
> >
>
> Until you realize a real bike from a shop is only $5
> USD more.

And once converted to CAD you get about $400-$500, right,
plus s&h and taxes and .....

Micheal
 
I live in Regina. I used to have a few god bikes in the
past, all bought cheap at pawn shops and such. Then when I
saw one of my own stolen bikes there, I decided to either
buy new bikes, or to buy direct from the authors, so as not
to encourage theft.

I am on a budget, but don't want something that breaks every
once in a while.

Cam

Micheal Artindale wrote:

> "cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake and
> > full suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has
> > anyone tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are
> > there any other (better known) bikes with these features
> > in this price range?
> >
> > Here is the link (hope it works):
> >
> http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp-
> ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePa-
> th=2534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=25343743024321-
> 55&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efo-
> lder_id=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=140847439-
> 5348027&bmUID=1079771>
> > I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> > brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> > someone be able to recommend an online store or forum
> > for buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in
> > Canada?
> >
> > Cam
>
> I bought a bike from them about 4 yrs ago. its a 21 spd
> front susspension
> ccm. Paid $150 for it. it has over 8000km on it. Replaced
> cables, tubes, front derailer, both tires, grips,
> shifters, and soon replacing brakes.
>
> the old saying -- you get what you pay for.
>
> If all you can afford is $300, and this is the best that
> you can find for what u want, then go for it.
>
> What part of Canada do you live in?
>
> You may want to ask them when it will be going on sale
> next.... you may save even more $$$
>
> Micheal
 
Thank you Ryan for your informative answer. I am new to
performance bikes, and honestly some of the prices make me
wonder how a bike can be so expensive. My current bike is
a hardtail from Wallmart, so Canadian Tire will be an
upgrade for
me. I drive mostly on paved road, sometimes up and down the
hills, and a few days per year in the mountains.

Here is my problem: My wallmart bike (Cnd $170 + tax) is
falling apart. I have to tighten up or adjust something
often. I know this is partly because of the quality of the
bike. But I weight around 220 lb, so the bike is under
pressure. As an example, if I put too much air in the tires,
I have to change a spoke or two every week. So I reduce the
air pressure, which causes the tire to act like a shock
absorber and save the spokes. However, then pedaling becomes
harder. I am thinking maybe having a full suspension bike
will save me from this trouble. But then I don't want to be
forced to change a busted (and expensive) rear shock
absorber instead of spokes.

What should I look for in a hardtail bike that makes the
spokes less prone to breaking?

My interest in disc brakes is because I am tired of
adjusting the brakes on my bike every few weeks, and I've
heard that disc brakes are more powerful than normal brakes.

Would it be more cost effective if I buy parts separately
and assemble them myself? Constantly fixing my own bike has
made me a good bike mechanic :)

Cam

Ryan Cousineau wrote:

> In article <[email protected]>, cam
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake and
> > full suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has
> > anyone tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are
> > there any other (better known) bikes with these features
> > in this price range?
> >
> > Here is the link (hope it works): http://www.canadianti-
> > re.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_i-
> > d= 845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302209-
> > 441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath
> > =2534374302432155&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=25343743027414-
> > =47&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_i
> > d=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348-
> > 027&bmUID=1079771735801
>
> http://tinyurl.com/3bvan
>
> Picture:
>
> http://images.canadiantire.ca/media/images/BicyclesAccess-
> ories/BikesAdult /0711284_450_CC_2c8f7.jpg
>
> http://tinyurl.com/2qnha
>
> Okay, for the price, I'm sure it's great. The fork is a
> brand nobody here has ever heard of, the componentry is
> low-end Shimano, probably Acera from the looks and the 8-
> speed rear end, and I'm fascinated by the provenance of
> that rear shock. The front disc looks like it might be the
> very respectable Avid Ball Bearing design.
>
> Is it a durable bike? Depends on what you want to do with
> it. It's clearly the worst of all worlds: as a bike-path
> bike, it would suffer from high weight and inefficient
> pedaling caused by the suspension (I'm thinking they
> didn't put in a stable platform valve...). As a true off-
> road and freeride bike, it's likely to suffer from too
> little suspension travel (just a guess from looking at the
> fork), bad or nonexistent suspension damping, and probable
> fragility.
>
> If you know exactly what you are doing, you might be able
> to get the wheels nice and true, and ride it some. I doubt
> the experience would ever be pleasant.
>
> > I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> > brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> > someone be able to recommend an online store or forum
> > for buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in
> > Canada?
>
> For C$300, your best value is probably a nice used
> hardtail, V-brakes front and rear, with a half-decent
> front fork. Locally, I'd recommend Sports Junkies or The
> Buy & Sell, but in either case you have to know what
> you're looking at.
>
> But since you're already starting at Canadian Tire, I'm
> assuming you're not a sophisticated consumer of mountain
> bikes. In which case I'd go to a local bike shop, and see
> if they can set you up with a low-end hardtail for about
> $300. It will be similar in spec to the SuperCycle, but
> you will get the advantage of a proper fit on the bike,
> and proper assembly of the bicycle, two things which are
> just about nonexistent for department-store bicycles.
>
> Bikes without rear suspension are great to ride on mildly
> bumpy trails: they absorb some of the bumps with their
> front suspension, but don't suffer from the inefficient
> pedaling of full-suspension bicycles. There are bikes that
> have rear suspension and pretty good pedaling, but they
> sell for at least four times your budget.
>
> If you actually intend to ride this SuperCycle down
> serious trails, I'd be very afraid. Even before the bike
> simply fell apart because its rear suspension is made
> cheaply (hint: suspension pivots are very hard to get
> right) and it was never assembled properly, I'd bet that
> the marginal suspension system would make the ride a
> chore. It probably has a virtually undamped rear shock,
> which means that every time the suspension gets compressed
> by a bump, it will hop back into place much too quickly,
> potentially lifting the rear wheel and generally making a
> mess of serious bike dynamics. Again, better to be on a
> hardtail than fighting that all the way down the hill.
>
> This seems like a long posting to tell you "department
> store bikes suck. Get a
> Norco/Kona/Specialized/Brodie/whatever," but I hope by
> articulating the problems in detail, you'll understand why
> most people who respond to this thread are going to
> encourage you to raise your budget and lower your
> expectations.
>
> For my part, faced with a similar budget and a desire for
> a serious mountain bike, I bought a used Kona Kilauea, a
> 1997-vintage bike with XT (pretty high end) components and
> a Marzocchi Z.2, a short-travel fork by today's standards,
> but one of the first really serious, properly damped forks
> made. I paid $400, and at that price had to put in some
> more money to change the fork seals and oil. I also
> upgraded the wheels, though that was more because I got a
> good deal on some nice rims and hubs (cost me less than
> C$100 plus my labour to get together a WTB front disc hub,
> XT rear hub, two Syncros Lil' Snapper double-wall rims,
> and enough spokes to assemble it all).
>
> --
> Ryan Cousineau, [email protected]
> http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/ President, Fabrizio
> Mazzoleni Fan Club
 
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"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> Hi all,
>
> Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity bikes,
> which have features such as front disc brake and full
> suspension at the attractive price of Cnd $300. Has anyone
> tried these bikes? Is it a durable bike? Are there any
> other (better known) bikes with these features in this
> price range?
>
> Here is the link (hope it works):
>
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?P-
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2-
534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOL-
DER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=-
2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bm-
UID=1079771735801
>
> I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual disc
> brakes and full suspension in this price range. Would
> someone be able to recommend an online store or forum for
> buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
>
> Cam
 
"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:[email protected]...
> Thank you Ryan for your informative answer. I am new to
> performance bikes,
and
> honestly some of the prices make me wonder how a bike can
> be so expensive.
My
> current bike is a hardtail from Wallmart, so Canadian Tire
> will be an
upgrade for
> me. I drive mostly on paved road, sometimes up and down
> the hills, and a
few days
> per year in the mountains.

I had a bike from Walmart. The frame snapped while riding
on the sidewalk. Walmart is ****, no matter what you get
from them.

Canadian tire bikes are made by Raleigh (sp?). some parts
are of a lower grade, but still better than a simular priced
bike from Walmart. The bikes from Canadian Tire also is made
here in Canada, unlike the Walmart ****.

> Here is my problem: My wallmart bike (Cnd $170 + tax) is
> falling apart. I
have to
> tighten up or adjust something often. I know this is
> partly because of the
quality
> of the bike. But I weight around 220 lb, so the bike is
> under pressure. As
an
> example, if I put too much air in the tires, I have to
> change a spoke or
two every
> week. So I reduce the air pressure, which causes the tire
> to act like a
shock
> absorber and save the spokes. However, then pedaling
> becomes harder. I am
thinking
> maybe having a full suspension bike will save me from this
> trouble. But
then I don't
> want to be forced to change a busted (and expensive) rear
> shock absorber
instead of
> spokes.

Ok, uhm, first. You are not heavy enough to break spokes,
so your bike is ****. My bike that i bought for $150 from
Canadian tire has never had major surgery needed, ie
spokes, or frame related stuff. Mountain bikes should have
between 40-60psi, i have seen one as high as 80. I ride
mine at 50psi.

Second With the way i ride, im surprised this bike i have
has lasted, i live in North Bay ON, near Sudbury. We have
lots of ROCK. I ride hard, and i have taken spills wirth my
bike --- i even launched it off a dock :D

>
> What should I look for in a hardtail bike that makes the
> spokes less prone
to
> breaking?

1) Not From walmart, Zellers, or Canadian tire are better
than them, if you want to stay cheap.

2) front suspension forks, smoothe ride, and u look the
part.

3) not from walmart

>
> My interest in disc brakes is because I am tired of
> adjusting the brakes
on my bike
> every few weeks, and I've heard that disc brakes are more
> powerful than
normal
> brakes.
>
> Would it be more cost effective if I buy parts separately
> and assemble
them myself?
> Constantly fixing my own bike has made me a good bike
> mechanic :)

Uhm, .... my friend has a bike worth $5000 retail. he works
at a bikeshop, so it didnt cost him that much. i can keep up
with him on my POS Canadian tire **** bike. its not the
bike, its the rider, unless u have a bike from walmart.

Micheal
 
i used to live in Regina. :) great going to school their
*balfour* get yourself to western cycle and have the floks
there explain what different components are worth and what
makes a good FS Bike. Other then that I can't remember what
there are for bike out there. What hills are you riding up
and down? Qupell vally?.

Later
--
Cory Sarafinchan Splat Graphics Splat Graphic Designs 2003
SGD Racing http://splat-graphics.tripod.com
[email protected]

"cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> I live in Regina. I used to have a few god bikes in the
> past, all bought
cheap at pawn shops and such. Then when I saw one of my own
stolen bikes there, I decided to either buy new bikes, or to
buy direct from the authors, so as not to encourage theft.
>
> I am on a budget, but don't want something that breaks
> every once in a
while.
>
> Cam
>
> Micheal Artindale wrote:
>
> > "cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:[email protected]...
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake
> > > and full suspension at the
attractive
> > > price of Cnd $300. Has anyone tried these bikes? Is it
> > > a durable bike? Are there any other (better known)
> > > bikes with these features in this price range?
> > >
> > > Here is the link (hope it works):
> > >
> >
http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp?P-
RODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2-
534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302432155&FOL-
DER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=-
2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=1408474395348027&bm-
UID=1079771>
> > > I am also wondering if one can get a bike with dual
> > > disc brakes and
full
> > > suspension in this price range. Would someone be able
> > > to recommend an online store or forum for buying
> > > discounted or second hand mountain bikes in Canada?
> > >
> > > Cam
> >
> > I bought a bike from them about 4 yrs ago. its a 21
> > spd front
susspension
> > ccm. Paid $150 for it. it has over 8000km on it.
> > Replaced cables, tubes, front derailer, both tires,
> > grips, shifters, and soon replacing brakes.
> >
> > the old saying -- you get what you pay for.
> >
> > If all you can afford is $300, and this is the best that
> > you can find
for
> > what u want, then go for it.
> >
> > What part of Canada do you live in?
> >
> > You may want to ask them when it will be going on sale
> > next.... you may
save
> > even more $$$
> >
> > Micheal
 
In article <[email protected]>, cam <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thank you Ryan for your informative answer. I am new to
> performance bikes, and honestly some of the prices make me
> wonder how a bike can be so expensive. My current bike is
> a hardtail from Wallmart, so Canadian Tire will be an
> upgrade for
> me. I drive mostly on paved road, sometimes up and down
> the hills, and a few days per year in the mountains.
>
> Here is my problem: My wallmart bike (Cnd $170 + tax) is
> falling apart. I have to tighten up or adjust something
> often. I know this is partly because of the quality of the
> bike. But I weight around 220 lb, so the bike is under
> pressure. As an example, if I put too much air in the
> tires, I have to change a spoke or two every

220 pounds is not a problem for a decent bicycle. Whatever
problem you're having with "too much air in the tires" (the
heavier you are, the more pressure you should run) and spoke
breakage was caused not by the air pressure, but by the
wheel never being built properly. The reason you keep having
to change spokes is because once a few have been driven to
failure, they overstress the rest, and those spokes will
eventually fail whether you replace the others or not.
Likely, the wheel was never built with enough spoke tension.

> What should I look for in a hardtail bike that makes the
> spokes less prone to breaking?

Good wheels! In your case, it would be worthwhile to discuss
your riding and your problems with a bike shop. They will be
able to point you at the right kind of bike (probably a
"hybrid" or "comfort" bike, maybe one with mountain-bike
style (26") wheels), and will back up that bike with useful
after-sales service.

> My interest in disc brakes is because I am tired of
> adjusting the brakes on my bike every few weeks, and
> I've heard that disc brakes are more powerful than
> normal brakes.

For your needs, any typical brake will be more than
adequate. If you were riding in muddy conditions or doing
freeride work, I might advise looking into discs. If you
think adjusting V-brakes is bad, wait until you discover the
wonderful world of hydraulic bleeding. As for cable-operated
discs, they might reduce the number of adjustments needed,
but not by enough to make that choice worth the trouble.

> Would it be more cost effective if I buy parts separately
> and assemble them myself? Constantly fixing my own bike
> has made me a good bike mechanic :)
>
> Cam

Well, if you enjoy it, I'd encourage you. I'm an invertate
fixer myself, though given the current state of my wheels,
maybe not the best to give advice on the subject. I think
it's useful to know. But truing up wheels well is not a
trivial process. I'd recommend getting yourself a good
working bike first, then as a learning opportunity take
apart and rebuild the Wal-Mart wheels.

If you are looking for a good bike repair manual, Lennard
Zinn's "Zinn and the art of bicycle maintenance" is pretty
good. There's two, one for road bikes, one for mountain
bikes. The mountain bike one will work fine for you. It's
not perfect, but is well-aimed at novice repairers.

Given that your current bike is "falling apart", I would
recommend starting over from scratch if you can afford to. A
new, low-end bike from a local shop will suit your needs
very well. If you were really confident with tinkering, I'd
tell you to fix what was wrong on your bike, or better yet,
to scavenge a good bike from the garbage (I ride to work on
one $10 garage-sale bike, my father uses another; they're
very good, reliable machines, just 20 years too old).

Since you're in Canada, I'll make a specific recommendation
from the Norco line:

http://norco.com/bikes/2004bikes/plateau.htm

The Norco Plateau is the bottom of their "comfort" line. 26"
wheels (very strong), low end but durable componentry, and a
suspension seatpost, which may reduce the shocks to you and
the wheels somewhat. $400 MSRP.

> Ryan Cousineau wrote:
>
> > In article <[email protected]>, cam
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake
> > > and full suspension at the attractive price of Cnd
> > > $300. Has anyone tried these bikes? Is it a durable
> > > bike? Are there any other (better known) bikes with
> > > these features in this price range?

--
Ryan Cousineau, [email protected]
http://www.sfu.ca/~rcousine/wiredcola/ President, Fabrizio
Mazzoleni Fan Club
 
My apartment is right next to Balfour! Western Cycle closed
down a while ago. There is Outtabound on Albert St. and
Dutch Cycle on Angus St. I will pay them a visit.

Yes, I go to Qu'apple valley, but also around Regina
Beach. They are deepening the Wascana lake near downtown
Regina, and are using all that dirt to create small hills.
They are also making the hill opposite the University of
Regina bigger.

Splat Graphics wrote:

> i used to live in Regina. :) great going to school their
> *balfour* get yourself to western cycle and have the floks
> there explain what different components are worth and what
> makes a good FS Bike. Other then that I can't remember
> what there are for bike out there. What hills are you
> riding up and down? Qupell vally?.
>
> Later
> --
> Cory Sarafinchan Splat Graphics Splat Graphic Designs 2003
> SGD Racing http://splat-graphics.tripod.com
> [email protected]
>
> "cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > I live in Regina. I used to have a few god bikes in the
> > past, all bought
> cheap at pawn shops and such. Then when I saw one of my
> own stolen bikes there, I decided to either buy new
> bikes, or to buy direct from the authors, so as not to
> encourage theft.
> >
> > I am on a budget, but don't want something that breaks
> > every once in a
> while.
> >
> > Cam
> >
> > Micheal Artindale wrote:
> >
> > > "cam" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > > news:[email protected]...
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Candian Tire stores are offering SuperCycle Gravity
> > > > bikes, which have features such as front disc brake
> > > > and full suspension at the
> attractive
> > > > price of Cnd $300. Has anyone tried these bikes? Is
> > > > it a durable bike? Are there any other (better
> > > > known) bikes with these features in this price
> > > > range?
> > > >
> > > > Here is the link (hope it works):
> > > >
> > >
> http://www.canadiantire.ca/assortments/product_detail.jsp-
> ?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443250630&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePa-
> th=2534374302209441&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=25343743024321-
> 55&FOLDER%3C%3EbrowsePath=2534374302741447&FOLDER%3C%3Efo-
> lder_id=2534374302741447&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=140847439-
> 5348027&bmUID=107> > > I am also wondering if one can get
> a bike with dual disc brakes and full
> > > > suspension in this price range. Would someone be
> > > > able to recommend an online store or forum for
> > > > buying discounted or second hand mountain bikes in
> > > > Canada?
> > > >
> > > > Cam
> > >
> > > I bought a bike from them about 4 yrs ago. its a 21
> > > spd front
> susspension
> > > ccm. Paid $150 for it. it has over 8000km on it.
> > > Replaced cables, tubes, front derailer, both
> > > tires, grips, shifters, and soon replacing
> > > brakes.
> > >
> > > the old saying -- you get what you pay for.
> > >
> > > If all you can afford is $300, and this is the best
> > > that you can find
> for
> > > what u want, then go for it.
> > >
> > > What part of Canada do you live in?
> > >
> > > You may want to ask them when it will be going on sale
> > > next.... you may
> save
> > > even more $$$
> > >
> > > Micheal
 
> 220 pounds is not a problem for a decent bicycle. Whatever
> problem you're having with "too much air in the tires"
> (the heavier you are, the more pressure you should run)
> and spoke breakage was caused not by the air pressure, but
> by the wheel never being built properly. The reason you
> keep having to change spokes is because once a few have
> been driven to failure, they overstress the rest, and
> those spokes will eventually fail whether you replace the
> others or not. Likely, the wheel was never built with
> enough spoke tension.
>

Yes, on closer inspection I can see quite a few spokes bent.
Incidentally it is always the sraight spokes that break,
probably because as you say, they are under stress because
the bent ones don't take their share of work.

> Good wheels! In your case, it would be worthwhile to
> discuss your riding and your problems with a bike shop.
> They will be able to point you at the right kind of bike
> (probably a "hybrid" or "comfort" bike, maybe one with mountain-
> bike style (26") wheels), and will back up that bike with
> useful after-sales service.

I will pay them a visit, as I am tired of fixing my bike.
Even the handle bar is loose. It usually points about 10-15
degrees off the direction of the wheels. Looks funny, but it
isn't funny when riding the bike.

> For your needs, any typical brake will be more than
> adequate. If you were riding in muddy conditions or doing
> freeride work, I might advise looking into discs. If you
> think adjusting V-brakes is bad, wait until you discover
> the wonderful world of hydraulic bleeding. As for cable-
> operated discs, they might reduce the number of
> adjustments needed, but not by enough to make that choice
> worth the trouble.

I am studying computers, and there you just have to wait a
few months to have something you couldn't afford a before. I
have been hoping that the price of disc brakes will fall
fast, but it isn't happening as fast as I would like :)

> Well, if you enjoy it, I'd encourage you. I'm an invertate
> fixer myself, though given the current state of my wheels,
> maybe not the best to give advice on the subject. I think
> it's useful to know. But truing up wheels well is not a
> trivial process. I'd recommend getting yourself a good
> working bike first, then as a learning opportunity take
> apart and rebuild the Wal-Mart wheels.
>
> If you are looking for a good bike repair manual, Lennard
> Zinn's "Zinn and the art of bicycle maintenance" is pretty
> good. There's two, one for road bikes, one for mountain
> bikes. The mountain bike one will work fine for you. It's
> not perfect, but is well-aimed at novice repairers.
>
> Given that your current bike is "falling apart", I would
> recommend starting over from scratch if you can afford
> to. A new, low-end bike from a local shop will suit your
> needs very well. If you were really confident with
> tinkering, I'd tell you to fix what was wrong on your
> bike, or better yet, to scavenge a good bike from the
> garbage (I ride to work on one $10 garage-sale bike, my
> father uses another; they're very good, reliable
> machines, just 20 years too old).

> Since you're in Canada, I'll make a specific
> recommendation from the Norco line:
>
> http://norco.com/bikes/2004bikes/plateau.htm
>
> The Norco Plateau is the bottom of their "comfort" line.
> 26" wheels (very strong), low end but durable componentry,
> and a suspension seatpost, which may reduce the shocks to
> you and the wheels somewhat. $400 MSRP.

Durability is good! I will visit a few bike shops and see
what comes up. Thanks for all the help!!!