Can drinking excess water effect?

DF thanks. Good information. All these suggest hemodilution, loosing
electrolytes esp. Na and K, changes in RBCs etc. What can be the
results on loosing these and of hemodilution in long term by taking
excess water persitently as habit? What about effect of taking excess
water and excreting more urine on Acid/base status of body?

DF thanks. Good information. All these suggest hemodilution, loosing
electrolytes esp. Na and K, changes in RBCs etc. What can be the
results on loosing these and of hemodilution in long term by taking
excess water persitently as habit? What about effect of taking excess
water and excreting more urine on Acid/base status of body?

Learn to read. As I told you before, I never said that

Show me where I said that, not what you imagined.

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Exactly. Just as I stated.

You indicated that more water flushes "excess fat"

from the body, and

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Why are your trolling the group, knowingly, with
unproven, unsubstantiated [censored] and arguing it is true?

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Always stated as 10 oz glasses.

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newspaper and he recently stated that people

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water throughout the day--not all at one time.

And that can be completely useless info, from which

a person can die.

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Who are these idiots who talk of 8 glasses without

defining how much is in

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glass??? Nor do they mention adult or child/thin or

fat/active or

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sedentary.
My basic rule of thumb is that you are drinking

enough if you go to the

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toilet/bathroom say 4-6 times a day, and your urine

is pale yellow (except

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of course after you've just woken up, when it will

be darker naturally).

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4 oz to a "glass" (cup) = 32 oz per day = 1 quart per

day the generally

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accepted amount of fluid intake from all sources in a

24 hour period for a

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human at rest in normal temperatures. More than that

won't hurt, less than

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that *might* not be a problem.

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More water can increase health if flushing the body of
substances like excess fat or toxins. It isn't the
liquid that performs the feat, it only assists the
process.

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Huh? And where do you see me saying water flushes fat?

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substances like excess fat or toxins. It isn't the
liquid that performs the feat, it only assists the
process.

HMc

DF thanks. All these suggest hemodilution, loosing electrolytes esp. Na
and K, changes in RBCs etc. What can be the results on loosing these
and of hemodilution in long term by taking excess water persitently as
habit? What about effect of taking excess water and excreting more
urine on Acid/base status of body?

In article <[email hidden]>,

Kumar said:

DF thanks. Good information. All these suggest hemodilution, loosing
electrolytes esp. Na and K, changes in RBCs etc. What can be the
results on loosing these and of hemodilution in long term by taking
excess water persitently as habit? What about effect of taking excess
water and excreting more urine on Acid/base status of body?

If you are worried about losing eletrolytes as a result of drinking water,
go to a health food store and buy a bottle of Mineral capsules. Take one
of the capsules after each meal and you should never have to worry about
it unless you have some sort of medical problem. If you have medical
problem, ask your doctor for advice. Also, do a google search for "pH".
Order some pH test strips if you choose to do so. They sell the test
strips at some drug stores.
The book "The Acid Alkaline Diet" by Christopher Vasey, N.D. explains how
to use the test strips to test your pH level.

NOW Foods sells "Full Spectrum Minerals Caps"
NutriBiotic sells "Essential Electrolytes"

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Kumar said:

DF thanks. Good information. All these suggest hemodilution, loosing
electrolytes esp. Na and K, changes in RBCs etc. What can be the
results on loosing these and of hemodilution in long term by taking
excess water persitently as habit?

None.

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What about effect of taking excess
water and excreting more urine on Acid/base status of body?

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There is a doctor that writes a colomn in the local
newspaper and he recently stated that people should drink 8 glasses of
water throughout the day--not all at one time.

And that can be completely useless info, from which a person can die.
Who are these idiots who talk of 8 glasses without defining how much is in
a
glass??? Nor do they mention adult or child/thin or fat/active or
sedentary.
My basic rule of thumb is that you are drinking enough if you go to the
toilet/bathroom say 4-6 times a day, and your urine is pale yellow (except
of course after you've just woken up, when it will be darker naturally).

4 oz to a "glass" (cup)

But a cup is 8 oz. Go check a measuring cup in the kitchen (and it may
be in the dictionary entry for cup). Common (?) drinking glasses are a
big larger; someone suggested 10 oz (if full).

So 8 glasses = 8 * 8 oz = 2 quarts.

Do you agree that the need for water is fulfilled by all types of
water, not just "drinking water"? (ie, other drinks, and water in
food.) Apparently, some of the 8-glasses fanatics think those other
things do not count.

bob

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= 32 oz per day = 1 quart per day the generally
accepted amount of fluid intake from all sources in a 24 hour period for a
human at rest in normal temperatures. More than that won't hurt, less than
that *might* not be a problem.

HMc

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Do you agree that the need for water is fulfilled by all types of
water, not just "drinking water"? (ie, other drinks, and water in
food.) Apparently, some of the 8-glasses fanatics think those other
things do not count.

Any type of water will do. People do get a substantial amount of
water from food, as most foods are high in moisture content, and just
because it isn't taken from a drinking glass doesn't mean that it
doesn't count as water. Drinks that contain water count, too. Even
drinks that contain mild diuretics such as caffeine still count, since
they introduce water into the body much faster than it will lose it
due to any diuretic effect of the caffeine.

And as long as you aren't perspiring heavily, vomiting, or suffering
from diarrhea, you can get by with about a litre a day.

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4 oz to a "glass" (cup) = 32 oz per day = 1 quart per day the generally
accepted amount of fluid intake from all sources in a 24 hour period for a
human at rest in normal temperatures. More than that won't hurt, less than
that *might* not be a problem.

MUCH more than can hurt. Lord knows I have seen water intoxication enough
over the years.

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DF Thanks. All these losses can be very much important for causing
many
imbalances. What about effect of excess urine excretion on acid/base
status of body?

Sorry Kumar can't help about PH balance. As an endurance athlete I'm
much more on top of excess water and hynonatremia. Many people think
that sport drinks are the answer, when in effect are very poor/low in
sodium. Add heat and potential for trouble is geometric. Extra salt is a
necessity.
-DF

Anyway, can we check this concept with animals and water which are less
and more water dependant? Are more dependant on water are bit
delicate/softer and less water dependant comparatively hardy?

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DF Thanks. All these losses can be very much important for causing
many
imbalances. What about effect of excess urine excretion on acid/base
status of body?

Sorry Kumar can't help about PH balance. As an endurance athlete I'm
much more on top of excess water and hynonatremia. Many people think
that sport drinks are the answer, when in effect are very poor/low in
sodium. Add heat and potential for trouble is geometric. Extra salt is a
necessity.
-DF

1 cup = 10 ounces unless you are an illiterate yank.
2 cups = 1 pint
2 pints = 1 quart
4 quarts = 1 gallon

1 gallon = 160 ounces, unless you are an illiterate
Yank

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> There is a doctor that writes a colomn in the

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> newspaper and he recently stated that people

should drink 8 glasses of

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> water throughout the day--not all at one time.

And that can be completely useless info, from

which a person can die.

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Who are these idiots who talk of 8 glasses without

defining how much is in

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a
glass??? Nor do they mention adult or child/thin

or fat/active or

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sedentary.
My basic rule of thumb is that you are drinking

enough if you go to the

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toilet/bathroom say 4-6 times a day, and your

urine is pale yellow (except

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of course after you've just woken up, when it will

be darker naturally).

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4 oz to a "glass" (cup)

But a cup is 8 oz. Go check a measuring cup in the

kitchen (and it may

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be in the dictionary entry for cup). Common (?)

drinking glasses are a

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big larger; someone suggested 10 oz (if full).

So 8 glasses = 8 * 8 oz = 2 quarts.

Do you agree that the need for water is fulfilled by

all types of

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water, not just "drinking water"? (ie, other drinks,

and water in

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food.) Apparently, some of the 8-glasses fanatics

think those other

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things do not count.

bob

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= 32 oz per day = 1 quart per day the generally
accepted amount of fluid intake from all sources in

a 24 hour period for a

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human at rest in normal temperatures. More than that

won't hurt, less than

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that *might* not be a problem.

HMc

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MUCH more than can hurt. Lord knows I have seen

water intoxication enough

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over the years.

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Sorry Kumar can't help about PH balance. As an endurance athlete I'm
much more on top of excess water and hynonatremia. Many people think
that sport drinks are the answer, when in effect are very poor/low in
sodium. Add heat and potential for trouble is geometric. Extra salt is a
necessity.

Ideally, people should drink something that is isotonic with what they
lose. Unfortunately, it's awkward to measure the tonicity of sweat
and urine on the fly, and both are quite variable.

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1 cup = 10 ounces

That would be imperial measure, used only on island nations of few
people and a holdover of once-great times, now falling into disuse
because of the enthusiastic adoption of metric measure. A real cup is 8
ounces, where the ounces themselves are of a different, smaller, more
manageable size.

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2 cups = 1 pint

The old saying "a pint's a pound the world around" doesn't work with the
imperial pint. That one weighs something over 20 avoirdupois ounces -
rather than the 16 ounces a correct pound weighs - and must, therefore,
be an incorrect one.

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2 pints = 1 quart
4 quarts = 1 gallon
1 gallon = 160 ounces, unless you are an illiterate Yank

Actually, a non-imperial, correct gallon is 168 fluid ounces.

HTH

Pastorio

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>> There is a doctor that writes a colomn in the local newspaper
>> and he recently stated that people should drink 8 glasses of
>> water throughout the day--not all at one time.
>
> And that can be completely useless info, from which a person
> can die. Who are these idiots who talk of 8 glasses without
> defining how much is in a glass??? Nor do they mention adult or
> child/thin or fat/active or sedentary. My basic rule of thumb
> is that you are drinking enough if you go to the
> toilet/bathroom say 4-6 times a day, and your urine is pale
> yellow (except of course after you've just woken up, when it
> will be darker naturally).

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4 oz to a "glass" (cup)

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But a cup is 8 oz. Go check a measuring cup in the kitchen (and it
may be in the dictionary entry for cup). Common (?) drinking
glasses are a big larger; someone suggested 10 oz (if full). So 8
glasses = 8 * 8 oz = 2 quarts.

Do you agree that the need for water is fulfilled by all types of
water, not just "drinking water"? (ie, other drinks, and water in
food.) Apparently, some of the 8-glasses fanatics think those other
things do not count.

bob

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= 32 oz per day = 1 quart per day the generally accepted amount
of fluid intake from all sources in a 24 hour period for a human
at rest in normal temperatures. More than that won't hurt, less
than that *might* not be a problem.

HMc

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Come back tomorrow and we'll talk about surface measures. Boy, that'll
be fun... There'll be a quiz.

Very educational and entertaining post.