Campbell Soup

Soren Lorensen said:

In article <[email hidden]>, jmcquown

Quoted message said:

Soren Lorensen said:

In article <[email hidden]>, Curly Sue
<[email hidden]> wrote:

> On 4 Jan 2006 12:46:52 -0800, "Jalterio" <[email hidden]>
> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm a reporter in Westchester County, N.Y., writing about Campbell
>> Soup from a business perspective. I'm looking at the company's new
>> strategies, including on-the-go soups you can microwave and sip as
>> well as premium soups like the new boxed butternut squash soup.
>>
> I like the idea of the "Soup at Hand" to prevent me from raiding
> the vending machines at work. The vegetable one is pretty tasty,
> though
> a bit too salty.
>
> Sue(tm)
> Lead me not into temptation... I can find it myself!

The concept is a little offensive. This artificial marketeer's idea
of
a young, hip, and on-the-go consumer is bogus. Making people
conscious
of improving their health and creating less stressful lives rather
than encouraging this notion of rushing from one meeting to the next
with no time for even rudimentary hygiene.

Quoted message said:

But seriously, your points are well taken *except*... many people ARE
rushing from one meeting to the next with no time to stop for a
lengthy lunch. I'm not particularly young nor am I hip but I've had
more than my share of days when I couldn't take a half hour for
lunch, let alone an hour. (Note: I'm not one of those grab
fast-food people, either... I was bringing leftovers and eating at
my desk a lot of the time to help resolve difficult problems with
databases being down, etc.) Campbell's isn't the one who created
the concept of the busy working person, they are merely cashing in
on it.

I'm merely pointing out that for some reason their traditional
marketing campaigns weren't working. Maybe it was the wrong target
audience. Before this soup in a cup, I only saw commercials for
chicken noodle directed at mom's of young kids. I get the concept
they are
going for in trying to address the reality of many people's lives, but
remember that condition is also driven by marketing. People identify
with an image and buy into it. I'm suggesting that the concept of an
enthusiastic workforce that has no time for healthy, paced meals is in
itself as unhealthy as the product it's pitching. Norman Rockwell's
thanksgiving dinner painting wasn't exactly reality for many homes
either, but America still buys into it.

Okay, I agree with that. And they pay a high price for those marketing and
ad execs to come up with these campaigns, too. But I don't buy their
products simply based on an ad campaign.

Quoted message said:

compare that
to a quick cheese sandwich on grain bread and an apple. No glitz, no
glamour...it's not hip enough for the cubicle crowd. But it's cheap,
quick to make, feeds you for days, can be eaten with one hand, has
very little unnatural waste, and doesn't turn your kidneys
upside-down.

I'd go for a grilled cheese, except I can't make a grilled cheese sandwich
at the office! Frankly, I never cared about what was 'hip' for the cubicle
crowd 🙂 What was 'hip' for my last cubicle crowd was picking up Burger
King or Wendy's. Funny how they were always asking what I'd brought for
lunch (leftovers) 🙂

Quoted message said:

It's not for every day but it doesn't have to be. But at least there
isn't some phony corporate image campaign compelling me to believe I
don't measure up unless I have that product. 🙂

Frankly, if people buy into that concept - not good enough, aren't driven
enough, won't succeed without this product - then they are stupid.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In a perfect world, of course. But Campbell's isn't responsible for
the way the "corporate world" works nor for anyone's stress levels,
relationships or anything of that nature.

Again, the public buys into images - sometimes without even knowing
it, sometimes because we want to believe we are that guy or gal on the
commercial. That is what makes branding such a huge business effort.

But just because a corporation is "cashing in" on a social condition
doesn't mean you can't demand some benefits for yourself. Campbell's
could easily cash in on a healthier product with less waste that is
just as quick to scarf down if they market it right.

I totally agree with that. What's say we all write to Campbell's and demand
a healthier product and an ad campaign directed at the benefits of the same?

Jill

jmcquown said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

jmcquown said:

Your employer is required to carry Worker's
Compensation insurance

Ours does not, and announces that they do not.
We sign an agreement that we understand that.

They have their own private workers comp. program instead
as paying out for insurance was too costly.

Yes, an employer can "self-insure" for Worker's Comp just as they can
for health plans. With self-insurance they are required to maintain
a specific amount of funds held in an escrow account to cover the
cost of potential claims.

Jill

Not that anyone cares, but here's more information on self-insuring WC
claims:

http://info.insure.com/business/workerscomp/selfinsure.html

I dealt with this stuff for 11 years working for a third-party claims
administrator 🙂

Jill

BoboBonobo said:

SD said:

-L. said:

I mean, really - how hard is it to open a can of soup and
heat it up (unless one has a disability, etc.) ?

Pretty simple concept here: not all workplaces are quipped with kitchen
facilities where staff can prepare lunches. Not all workers have
perfect worlds where lunch is always an hour long. Over worked, over
stressed workers can nuke their lunches in the microwave and dispose of
the containers. Is it good food? Not really. Is it good nutrition? not
really. On some days, that may all a person may be able to manage as a
meal break.I've missed plenty of meals when an 8 hour ER shift turns
into a 36 hour shift with breaks that were catch as catch can. That was
before the days of micorwave products like this and we just did without
eating period.

Quoted message said:

I also want to say, "Thank you for working in an ER."

Quoted message said:

--Bryan

Thanks....while I no longer work in that capacity, I've been there and
done that and it takes it's toll. I burned out after about 12 years of
doing it and left the medical profession. The proverbial straw that
broke the camel's back was the day an ambulance crew brought my former
room mate in after she rolled her vehicle. She didn't make it. I left
the medical profession shortly after that.

SD

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

-L. said:

I mean, really - how hard is it to open a can of soup and
heat it up (unless one has a disability, etc.) ?

Pretty simple concept here: not all workplaces are quipped with kitchen
facilities where staff can prepare lunches. Not all workers have
perfect worlds where lunch is always an hour long. Over worked, over
stressed workers can nuke their lunches in the microwave and dispose of
the containers. Is it good food? Not really. Is it good nutrition? not
really. On some days, that may all a person may be able to manage as a
meal break.I've missed plenty of meals when an 8 hour ER shift turns
into a 36 hour shift with breaks that were catch as catch can. That was
before the days of micorwave products like this and we just did without
eating period.

SD

Or ordered pizza... <lol>

Our ER nurses do that a LOT.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

-L. said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

There is a reason that I ran that thread "Cold from the can?" a bit ago.
There are nights at work I might not even have time to OPEN a can, much
less consume it even one "run-by-the-can-and-grab-a-bite" moment at a
time.

It's not unusual for me to not even eat at all! Iced tea, water, or even
iced coffee will cut the hunger pangs. Right now is our busiest time and
I have TAT's that I have to meet, especially on cardiac marker testing.
There literally is no time!

If that's truly the case, you need a new job or new priorities.
Seriously. No one should live like that. I can't think you can be
very effficient or effective if you are unable to eat properly.

I guess you've never worked in a hospital emergency room and had all
hell break loose in the form of mass causalties. Been there, done that.
I guess should have told the 4 guys from the military air crash and the
two auto accident patients that they would have to wait. Hey...I have
to get my priorities straight...my lunch is more important than you
emergency care. Some of do have our priorities straight...at that time
in my life, emergency care for those patient was a higher priority than
my lunch.

SD

Indeed... ;-)

Try putting off that GI bleed or cardiac arrest until you have taken
your lunch break! If the ER is busy, the lab is busy......

I was a bit surprised that she used the word "priorities".
A human life in danger has a lot more priority to me than my personal
comfort!

Board meetings in the industrial setting, maybe, or meeting corporate
deadlines might be able to pause for a meal break in an office job.

The necessity of regular meals is over-rated. I only eat twice per day
anyway, even on weekends, and I'm trying to wean that back down to one
meal per day to aid in calorie control. I've lost 50 lbs. in the last
year, but still have 70 to go.

Cheers!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

Thanks....while I no longer work in that capacity, I've been there and
done that and it takes it's toll. I burned out after about 12 years of
doing it and left the medical profession. The proverbial straw that
broke the camel's back was the day an ambulance crew brought my former
room mate in after she rolled her vehicle. She didn't make it. I left
the medical profession shortly after that.

SD

Bummer... :-(

I was glad that I was not working the day they brought our former
medical director into the ER. He had had a glucose crash (he was a
brittle diabetic) in the hot tub at the local health club and had
drowned.

He did not survive. I had known him and worked under him for 16 years.
He was an awesome person.

<sigh>

You sounded like a dedicated individual. Your retirement is our loss!

What do you do for a living now?
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

The necessity of regular meals is over-rated. I only eat twice per day
anyway, even on weekends, and I'm trying to wean that back down to one
meal per day to aid in calorie control. I've lost 50 lbs. in the last
year, but still have 70 to go.

Well done you🙂))

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

Thanks....while I no longer work in that capacity, I've been there and
done that and it takes it's toll. I burned out after about 12 years of
doing it and left the medical profession. The proverbial straw that
broke the camel's back was the day an ambulance crew brought my former
room mate in after she rolled her vehicle. She didn't make it. I left
the medical profession shortly after that.

SD

Bummer... :-(

I was glad that I was not working the day they brought our former
medical director into the ER. He had had a glucose crash (he was a
brittle diabetic) in the hot tub at the local health club and had
drowned.

He did not survive. I had known him and worked under him for 16 years.
He was an awesome person.

<sigh>

You sounded like a dedicated individual. Your retirement is our loss!

The misallocation of our society's resources contributed to losing a
trained medical professional. To what careers do we want to attract
our best and brightest? I'd say to research--medical and
otherwise--and to critical helping professions. Currently, we
monetarily incentivize marketing and finance, by rewarding those with
the big money.
If more resources would have been put into medical care, SD would not
have had to work Hellish shifts, and perhaps would still be in that ER,
contributing more to the well being of society than any CFO or
advertising agent.

Quoted message said:

What do you do for a living now?
--
Om.

Bryan

kilikini said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Thu 05 Jan 2006 01:28:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it kilikini?

Quoted message said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> On Thu 05 Jan 2006 01:04:07p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
> kilikini?
>
> >> --
> >
> > New Year's Eve. I work in a liquor store and we were so dang busy, I
> > had to go into the cooler and basically throw kegs around. I smashed
> > my hand. It's got a lovely bruise to go along with the bump from the
> > broken bone.
>
> Ouch! Shouldn't it be in a cast?
>

I don't have insurance and I'm not filing a claim; things happen. If I
had a cast on, I wouldn't be able to work or do anything at all! It's
much better this way.

kili

I hope it heals properly.

--
Wayne Boatwright *¿*

Thanks, Wayne!

kili

Kili...doesn't your employer have insurance? ...Hope your hand heals
well and quick...Sharon

"biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

kilikini said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Thu 05 Jan 2006 01:28:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it

kilikini?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Kili...doesn't your employer have insurance? ...Hope your hand heals
well and quick...Sharon

I only work part-time, so I wouldn't be entitled to insurance if he did.
I'm just dealing with it. It will heal, but it's just sore right now. I'll
be fine. Thanks!

kili

In article <[email hidden]>,

Ophelia said:

"OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

The necessity of regular meals is over-rated. I only eat twice per day
anyway, even on weekends, and I'm trying to wean that back down to one
meal per day to aid in calorie control. I've lost 50 lbs. in the last
year, but still have 70 to go.

Well done you🙂))

Thanks!
I've been doing low carb, and it's time to get "back on the wagon".
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

In article <[email hidden]>,

BOBOBOnoBO® said:

The misallocation of our society's resources contributed to losing a
trained medical professional. To what careers do we want to attract
our best and brightest? I'd say to research--medical and
otherwise--and to critical helping professions. Currently, we
monetarily incentivize marketing and finance, by rewarding those with
the big money.
If more resources would have been put into medical care, SD would not
have had to work Hellish shifts, and perhaps would still be in that ER,
contributing more to the well being of society than any CFO or
advertising agent.

:-)

And at this time, it looks like it's only going to get worse...
Hospitals are being forced to cut costs as much as possible just to
survive.
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

kilikini said:

"biig" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

kilikini said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> On Thu 05 Jan 2006 01:28:43p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it

kilikini?

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>

Kili...doesn't your employer have insurance? ...Hope your hand heals
well and quick...Sharon

I only work part-time, so I wouldn't be entitled to insurance if he did.
I'm just dealing with it. It will heal, but it's just sore right now. I'll
be fine. Thanks!

kili

I don't know about Florida laws, but here in Ontario, your employer
would be responsible either to pay the doctor bills himself, or put it
through workers compensation. You were injured on the job......Sharon

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

Thanks....while I no longer work in that capacity, I've been there and
done that and it takes it's toll. I burned out after about 12 years of
doing it and left the medical profession. The proverbial straw that
broke the camel's back was the day an ambulance crew brought my former
room mate in after she rolled her vehicle. She didn't make it. I left
the medical profession shortly after that.

SD

Bummer... :-(

I was glad that I was not working the day they brought our former
medical director into the ER. He had had a glucose crash (he was a
brittle diabetic) in the hot tub at the local health club and had
drowned.

He did not survive. I had known him and worked under him for 16 years.
He was an awesome person.

<sigh>

You sounded like a dedicated individual. Your retirement is our loss!

What do you do for a living now?

I finished my BA and MA, worked as a land use planner until the dirty
dealings of political land use decisions got to be too much. I now
teach school in Honduras 5th, 6th and 8th grade sciencefor a whopping
$400 a month.

SD

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

Quoted message said:

What do you do for a living now?

I finished my BA and MA, worked as a land use planner until the dirty
dealings of political land use decisions got to be too much. I now
teach school in Honduras 5th, 6th and 8th grade sciencefor a whopping
$400 a month.

SD

Ugh.

Serious pay cut...

but are you HAPPY? :-)
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

BOBOBOnoBO® said:

The misallocation of our society's resources contributed to losing a
trained medical professional. To what careers do we want to attract
our best and brightest? I'd say to research--medical and
otherwise--and to critical helping professions. Currently, we
monetarily incentivize marketing and finance, by rewarding those with
the big money.
If more resources would have been put into medical care, SD would not
have had to work Hellish shifts, and perhaps would still be in that ER,
contributing more to the well being of society than any CFO or
advertising agent.
Bryan

No...a trained medical professional left because I no longer wanted to
deal with the loss of friends or family at my place of employment, not
because of the hellish hours. In addition to the room mate who died in
the auto accident, I also worked the day a terminally ill friend was
brought in and passed away and | had to do unsuccessful CPR on my
husband. Sometimes enough is enough. I actually thrived on the ER duty
and mass casualty events Things happpen at too fast a pace to get
emotionally involved - ambulance arrivals, helicopter departures, phone
chains to be activated to call in additional staff, flying out on
helicopters or sailing out on small craft to do pick ups, all hands
turning out to fill the vacuum.

My medical professional experience was in the US military running X-ray
departmentsand acting as the petty officer in charge of the ER in the
US and at Naval Station Keflavik Iceland. Early in my career
functioning as a general duty hospital corpsman in clinical settings
and the ER at naval installations in the SF Bay area and at Naval
Station Adak Alaska. Shortages were not a result of corporate
mismanagment but a function of the NORMAL expected workload for a
specified size hospital. On NORMAL days, there were no hellish shifts
but every once ina while life goes awry and all hell breaks loose. When
that happens, hellish shifts result. The oncoming shift is often called
in early to assist and the off going shift stays because it takes
everyone available to handle what is happening in the ER.

SD

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

Quoted message said:

What do you do for a living now?

I finished my BA and MA, worked as a land use planner until the dirty
dealings of political land use decisions got to be too much. I now
teach school in Honduras 5th, 6th and 8th grade sciencefor a whopping
$400 a month.

SD

Ugh.

Serious pay cut...

but are you HAPPY? :-)
--

Pretty much. Nicer bosses, no sexual harrassment like at my medical
job, 14 months pay a year instead of 10 months in normal schools, work
day from 7 a.m. to 11:45 a.m. - not 7 to 4:30 with on call or stay on
board duty. Add that pay to my VA benefits and it is just fine. It
takes care of the LandRover payment, the Nissan payment, and the
tuition for kid at school.

SD

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

-L. said:

I mean, really - how hard is it to open a can of soup and
heat it up (unless one has a disability, etc.) ?

Pretty simple concept here: not all workplaces are quipped with kitchen
facilities where staff can prepare lunches. Not all workers have
perfect worlds where lunch is always an hour long. Over worked, over
stressed workers can nuke their lunches in the microwave and dispose of
the containers. Is it good food? Not really. Is it good nutrition? not
really. On some days, that may all a person may be able to manage as a
meal break.I've missed plenty of meals when an 8 hour ER shift turns
into a 36 hour shift with breaks that were catch as catch can. That was
before the days of micorwave products like this and we just did without
eating period.

SD

Or ordered pizza... <lol>

Our ER nurses do that a LOT.

Not a lot of pizza delivery joints in the Aeutian Islands - 2000 miles
to Anchorage is a tad bit far to go for pizza! LOL

SD

jmcquown said:

kilikini said:

"Wayne Boatwright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Thu 05 Jan 2006 01:04:07p, Thus Spake Zarathustra, or was it
kilikini?

>> --
>
> New Year's Eve. I work in a liquor store and we were so dang busy,
> I had to go into the cooler and basically throw kegs around. I
> smashed my hand. It's got a lovely bruise to go along with the bump
> from the broken bone.

Ouch! Shouldn't it be in a cast?

I don't have insurance and I'm not filing a claim; things happen. If
I had a cast on, I wouldn't be able to work or do anything at all!
It's much better this way.

kili

It might not set properly. Your employer is required to carry Worker's
Compensation insurance; it's not like a strike against you. You get medical
care and paid while your hand heals. The employer is not allowed to fire
you for being hurt in the course of your job duties. I don't understand why
people won't file Work Comp claims when it's a legitimate injury; there are
a hell of a lot people who *aren't* injured who file them to collect
benefits.

Jill

No kidding. I filed Workmans Comp in Florida for tick bites. I was
working as an employee of the university and one of my jobs was to
assist on an overnight filed exercise for a geogrpahy class. While on
the trip I was bitten by a tick, in a know Lyme disease area. The tick
was in the middle of my back so I could not remove it. They did it at
the clinic, did prophylactic treament for Lyme along with the requiste
bloodwork to make I didn't develop Lyme Disease. I also filed in FL
again for wasp stings when in the course of maintaing the meteorology
laboratory equipment I was severely stung on the face and neck by
wasps. Again, maintaing that equipment was part of my job description.
No problems whatsoever qith filing. In fact, my boss insisted I go file
a claim.

SD

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

SD said:

-L. wrote:
> I mean, really - how hard is it to open a can of soup and
> heat it up (unless one has a disability, etc.) ?

Pretty simple concept here: not all workplaces are quipped with kitchen
facilities where staff can prepare lunches. Not all workers have
perfect worlds where lunch is always an hour long. Over worked, over
stressed workers can nuke their lunches in the microwave and dispose of
the containers. Is it good food? Not really. Is it good nutrition? not
really. On some days, that may all a person may be able to manage as a
meal break.I've missed plenty of meals when an 8 hour ER shift turns
into a 36 hour shift with breaks that were catch as catch can. That was
before the days of micorwave products like this and we just did without
eating period.

SD

Or ordered pizza... <lol>

Our ER nurses do that a LOT.

Not a lot of pizza delivery joints in the Aeutian Islands - 2000 miles
to Anchorage is a tad bit far to go for pizza! LOL

SD

Oops... ;-)

Back to cold out of the can eh? <lol>

Sometimes NOT eating is preferable.

If it's really, really busy, it's just easier for me to decide "oh well,
I'm just not going to eat tonight" and get on with it.

Attitude is everything!!!!!!!!!
--
Om.

"My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson