Burritos

Sqwertz said:

Brian Christiansen said:

How far afield of the traditional fillings can I go and still have a
"burrito?"

Does it really matter what it's called? Wrap up anything you
want and just call it "lunch" and leave it at that.

Burrito is a subset of wrap. All burritos are wraps, but not all
wraps are burritos.
Of course, that isn't even accurate because people don't follow that.
http://www.newyorkburrito.com/
There is a group on MySpace called , "I Love Burritos." It has 6926
members.

When I visit Chicago, I eat burritos pretty much every day.
Now that I'm low carbing, I'll just throw away the tortilla.

If you ever go to Memphis:
http://travel.nytimes.com/travel/guides/north-america/united-states/tennessee/memphis/restaurant-detail.html?vid=1154654627505

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-sw

--Bryan

Brian wrote on Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:12:25 GMT:

??>> I don't think anybody wants to play your pathetic little
??>> game. You did this same exact thing a couple month ago:
Made
??>> an argument just for the sake of making an argument.
??>>
BC> Fine, but still no one has given me an actual, meaningful
BC> definition of what precisely is the difference between a
BC> "burrito" and a "wrap."

I am taking a risk but, IMHO, this thread seems rather
unnecessary: "Blessed are the peacemakers for they will be hit
by bricks from both sides"! Burritos have been around longer
than wraps, I think, but the definitions overlap and there is
not a great deal of difference to me except that I expect the
fillings of those sold as "burritos" to be more traditionally
Tex-Mex. Both corn and flour tortillas seem to be used as
wrapping material and I even prefer corn. There are some extreme
examples that "purists" might take exception to and not even I
would call a Vietnamese lettuce leaf wrap a "burrito" :-) The
filling is not necessarily Tex-Mex; there is an Indian carryout
in Mill Valley, California that had a variety of Indian curried
fillings (including Tandoori chicken) for "Indian Burritos" and
they were pretty good when I tried them last week! Some might
say "What can you expect in Mill Valley?" but they've been open
for about 10 years!

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

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Brian Christiansen said...

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What if I brought a pack of tortillas to a "pig pickin'" in NC and
rolled up some barbecue and cole slaw in them. Would I have some type
of "barbecue burritos?"

If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread

would

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you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

Andy

If your friend Vincent who styles himself as a 70's Disco King wraps some
'Que up in a tortilla.....would it then be a Vinnie Barbarrito?

KW

On Nov 14, 7:55 am, "James Silverton" <[email hidden]>

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Some might say "What can you expect in Mill Valley?"

Um, nice weather, smoke-free public buildings, fresh squeezed orange
juice and perfect avocados for breakfast. Heck, if I won the lottery,
I'd probably spend my Summers there. 🙂

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

--Bryan

KW said...

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Brian Christiansen said...

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What if I brought a pack of tortillas to a "pig pickin'" in NC and
rolled up some barbecue and cole slaw in them. Would I have some type
of "barbecue burritos?"

If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread

would

Quoted message said:

you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

Andy

If your friend Vincent who styles himself as a 70's Disco King wraps some
'Que up in a tortilla.....would it then be a Vinnie Barbarrito?

KW

<VBG>

Andy

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On Wed, 14 Nov 2007 05:12:24 GMT, "Brian Christiansen"

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Burrito:

a type of food originally from Mexico that is made by folding a
tortilla (= thin, round piece of bread) and putting esp. meat or beans
inside it

in Mexican cooking, a flour tortilla wrapped around a filling of meat,
beans, or cheese

a flour tortilla rolled or folded around a filling (as of meat, beans,
and cheese)

Wrap:

a sandwich in which the filling is rolled up in a soft tortilla

a thin flat piece of bread that is rolled around a filling (as of
meat, fish, or vegetables)

A flatbread, such as a tortilla or lavash, rolled around a filling

Don't then, though these definitions make a "wrap" a type of "burrito" or
perhaps "burrito" a type of "wrap?"

The definitions of "burrito" do not specify what type of meat or that the
only other fillings have to be beans and cheese, or that they have to be
"Mexican" (whatever that means in the first place).

The definition of "wrap" specifies even less, and certainly does not
preclude the fact that one can have a filling of meat, beans, and cheese (or
"traditional" burrito fillings).

I am not saying that any are "wrong," just that they are somewhat
non-specific except for the part about being wrapped in a tortilla and that
the terms can be used interchangeably.

Brian Christiansen

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If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread
would
you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich". That it is
"double decker." That it only contains certain types of meat, whatever those
are. That it has to contain certain other ingredients, whatever those are.

What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from being a type
of "club sandwich."

Brian Christiansen

Bobo Bonobo® said...

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On Nov 14, 7:55 am, "James Silverton" <[email hidden]>

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Some might say "What can you expect in Mill Valley?"

Um, nice weather, smoke-free public buildings, fresh squeezed orange
juice and perfect avocados for breakfast. Heck, if I won the lottery,
I'd probably spend my Summers there. 🙂

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

--Bryan

Don't forget the fires, earthquakes and mudslides!!!

Kidding aside, I've never had a better Irish coffee than in the BA.
Especially the ones my boss Patrick O'Daniels used to make us at work on
St. Patrick's Day! And at 9am, it was virtually a day off AT the office.
🙂))

Andy

Brian Christiansen said...

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I am not saying that any are "wrong," just that they are somewhat
non-specific except for the part about being wrapped in a tortilla and
that the terms can be used interchangeably.

You can call your creation a BBQ burrito all you like but burritos come
served with salsa, sour cream and guacamole. I don't suppose yours offers
those sides?

Also, all burrito fillings are always steaming (as well as optionally spicy)
hot.

You've got yourself some warm pig and cold coleslaw wrapped in a tortilla but
it's not a burrito.

Andy

Andy wrote on Wed, 14 Nov 2007 08:21:02 -0600:

??>> On Nov 14, 7:55 am, "James Silverton"
??>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
??>>> Some might say "What can you expect in Mill Valley?"
??>>
??>> Um, nice weather, smoke-free public buildings, fresh
??>> squeezed orange juice and perfect avocados for breakfast.
??>> Heck, if I won the lottery, I'd probably spend my Summers
??>> there. 🙂
??>>>
??>>> James Silverton
??>>> Potomac, Maryland
??>>
??>> --Bryan

A> Don't forget the fires, earthquakes and mudslides!!!

A> Kidding aside, I've never had a better Irish coffee than in
A> the BA. Especially the ones my boss Patrick O'Daniels used
A> to make us at work on St. Patrick's Day! And at 9am, it was
A> virtually a day off AT the office. 🙂))

Earthquake damage is a potential problem in Marin County (north
of SF for those who don't remember) and they are currently
conducting an emergency readiness campaign but, so far, fires
and mudslides have not been a problem tho' there was a landslide
on the coast road south of San Francisco that is still causing
disruption.

James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

E-mail, with obvious alterations:
not.jim.silverton.at.verizon.not

Brian Christiansen said:

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I don't think anybody wants to play your pathetic little game.
You did this same exact thing a couple month ago: Made an
argument just for the sake of making an argument.

Fine, but still no one has given me an actual, meaningful definition of what
precisely is the difference between a "burrito" and a "wrap."

The spelling.

If you go into a Mexican restaurant around her you can a tortilla with
various fillings like picadillos, beans, guacamole etc. and they call it a
burrito. If you go into other types of restaurants and sandwich shops you
can get various meats,cheeses, seafood, egg salad etc. wrapped up in a
tortilla and folded like a burrito and they call it a wrap.

Andy q said:

If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread
would
you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

Andy

Some chain restaurants would, and charge $9.95 for it. ;-)
--
Change Cujo to Juno in email address.

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If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread
would
you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich". That it
is "double decker." That it only contains certain types of meat, whatever
those are. That it has to contain certain other ingredients, whatever
those are.

What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from being a
type of "club sandwich."

Hey Brian,

There have been some good responses to your question. Summarizing, a burrito
is made with flour tortillas and filled with hot ingredients that are
indigenous to Mexican culture. Sometimes they are served with condiments.
Wraps are also made with flour tortillas and usually filled with any variety
of cold ingredients. There are no hard and fast rules or no specific
definitions. You can invent variations of wraps and burritos and call them
what you want.

There have also been some pained responses to you question. I'm not a
regular reader in this newsgroup but you seem to have a history of asking
what some people here think are pointless questions. I recently read a very
wise quote that went "the only dumb questions are those which are not
asked". I think that some people here should have more patience. That being
said, however, sometimes you can easily answer your own questions with a
little thought and a little research. It's always a good idea to exhaust
your own efforts before creating potentially unnecessary bandwidth in a
public forum. Also consider what things more or less useful in the overall
priority of your thoughts. For example, perhaps it's more useful to think
about complimentary ingredients and nutrition than the specific definition
is of whatever you're creating, that is unless you write dictionaries for a
living. :^)

Food for thought...
iGuy

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If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread
would
you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich". That it
is "double decker." That it only contains certain types of meat, whatever
those are. That it has to contain certain other ingredients, whatever
those are.

What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from being a
type of "club sandwich."

Hey Brian,

There have been some good responses to your question. Summarizing, a
burrito is made with flour tortillas and filled with hot ingredients that
are indigenous to Mexican culture. Sometimes they are served with
condiments. Wraps are also made with flour tortillas and usually filled
with any variety of cold ingredients. There are no hard and fast rules or
no specific definitions. You can invent variations of wraps and burritos
and call them what you want.

There have also been some pained responses to you question. I'm not a
regular reader in this newsgroup but you seem to have a history of asking
what some people here think are pointless questions. I recently read a
very wise quote that went "the only dumb questions are those which are not
asked". I think that some people here should have more patience. That
being said, however, sometimes you can easily answer your own questions
with a little thought and a little research. It's always a good idea to
exhaust your own efforts before creating potentially unnecessary bandwidth
in a public forum. Also consider what things more or less useful in the
overall priority of your thoughts. For example, perhaps it's more useful
to think about complimentary ingredients and nutrition than the specific
definition is of whatever you're creating, that is unless you write
dictionaries for a living. :^)

Do you teach first grade? Because you're a natural.

Sarah Gray said:

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Whatever you put in it, I hope it's low salt and low fat to keep
your blood pressure down.

Oh, har-de-har-har. No one has yet given me any compelling reason
why burritos can only contain "traditional" ingredients or precisely
what the line is between "burritos" and "wraps. If this line cannot
be drawn precisely, it means nothing.

You can call them whatever you want, who cares?

Exactly. Fill them with whatever you like, call them whatever you like.
WTF difference does it make?

Jill

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> If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of bread
> would
> you call it a BBQ club sandwich?
>
I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich". That
it is "double decker." That it only contains certain types of meat,
whatever those are. That it has to contain certain other ingredients,
whatever those are.

What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from being a
type of "club sandwich."

Hey Brian,

There have been some good responses to your question. Summarizing, a
burrito is made with flour tortillas and filled with hot ingredients that
are indigenous to Mexican culture. Sometimes they are served with
condiments. Wraps are also made with flour tortillas and usually filled
with any variety of cold ingredients. There are no hard and fast rules or
no specific definitions. You can invent variations of wraps and burritos
and call them what you want.

There have also been some pained responses to you question. I'm not a
regular reader in this newsgroup but you seem to have a history of asking
what some people here think are pointless questions. I recently read a
very wise quote that went "the only dumb questions are those which are
not asked". I think that some people here should have more patience. That
being said, however, sometimes you can easily answer your own questions
with a little thought and a little research. It's always a good idea to
exhaust your own efforts before creating potentially unnecessary
bandwidth in a public forum. Also consider what things more or less
useful in the overall priority of your thoughts. For example, perhaps
it's more useful to think about complimentary ingredients and nutrition
than the specific definition is of whatever you're creating, that is
unless you write dictionaries for a living. :^)

Do you teach first grade? Because you're a natural.

Mmm, just trying to be helpful when I see the need. It's more useful than
giving "dog [censored]" crass replies...

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>> If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of
>> bread would
>> you call it a BBQ club sandwich?
>>
> I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich". That
> it is "double decker." That it only contains certain types of meat,
> whatever those are. That it has to contain certain other ingredients,
> whatever those are.
>
> What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from being a
> type of "club sandwich."

Hey Brian,

There have been some good responses to your question. Summarizing, a
burrito is made with flour tortillas and filled with hot ingredients
that are indigenous to Mexican culture. Sometimes they are served with
condiments. Wraps are also made with flour tortillas and usually filled
with any variety of cold ingredients. There are no hard and fast rules
or no specific definitions. You can invent variations of wraps and
burritos and call them what you want.

There have also been some pained responses to you question. I'm not a
regular reader in this newsgroup but you seem to have a history of
asking what some people here think are pointless questions. I recently
read a very wise quote that went "the only dumb questions are those
which are not asked". I think that some people here should have more
patience. That being said, however, sometimes you can easily answer your
own questions with a little thought and a little research. It's always a
good idea to exhaust your own efforts before creating potentially
unnecessary bandwidth in a public forum. Also consider what things more
or less useful in the overall priority of your thoughts. For example,
perhaps it's more useful to think about complimentary ingredients and
nutrition than the specific definition is of whatever you're creating,
that is unless you write dictionaries for a living. :^)

Do you teach first grade? Because you're a natural.

Mmm, just trying to be helpful when I see the need. It's more useful than
giving "dog [censored]" crass replies...

Maybe, but less amusing.

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If you put your pulled pork and cole slaw between three slices of
bread would
you call it a BBQ club sandwich?

I don't really know. What is the definition of "club sandwich".
That it is "double decker." That it only contains certain types of
meat, whatever those are. That it has to contain certain other
ingredients, whatever those are.

What specific definition either makes that or precludes it from
being a type of "club sandwich."

Hey Brian,

There have been some good responses to your question. Summarizing, a
burrito is made with flour tortillas and filled with hot ingredients
that are indigenous to Mexican culture. Sometimes they are served
with condiments. Wraps are also made with flour tortillas and usually
filled with any variety of cold ingredients. There are no hard and
fast rules or no specific definitions. You can invent variations of
wraps and burritos and call them what you want.

There have also been some pained responses to you question. I'm not a
regular reader in this newsgroup but you seem to have a history of
asking what some people here think are pointless questions.

In the last one, IIRC, he argued about the words "artificial", "natural" and
"organic" as relates to food. He stated ALL food is artificial. The link
to his post is below. This is why he gets pained responses. His questions
are pointless.

http://groups.google.com/group/rec.food.cooking/browse_thread/thread/2dec13576750027/2e4eb342281cb760?hl=en&lnk=gst&q=Brian+Christiansen#2e4eb342281cb760

Jill

Brian Christiansen said...

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What if I brought a pack of tortillas to a "pig pickin'" in NC and
rolled up some barbecue and cole slaw in them. Would I have some type
of "barbecue burritos?"

If you brought a pack of tortillas to a pig pickin' in NC, you'd probably
get shot.

Alden Bugley said:

Brian Christiansen said...

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What if I brought a pack of tortillas to a "pig pickin'" in NC and
rolled up some barbecue and cole slaw in them. Would I have some type
of "barbecue burritos?"

If you brought a pack of tortillas to a pig pickin' in NC, you'd probably
get shot.

They'd think that you were one of them Mexicans what work at the
slaughterhouse.

--Bryan