Burning a hole in it

whoawhoa said:

"tting is about getting up on your nutsack and burning a hole in it." (I'm trying to avoid that)

Then dip the nose of the saddle down slightly. 😉

Moving the seat forward relative to the cranks automatically rotates the hips forward slightly, which means the contact patch between the shorts and the seat moves forward as well. Dipping the nose of the saddle helps put the contact patch back where it is in the road position.

whoawhoa said:

Sorry for the rambling nature of this thread.

What is the general feeling on hip angles/seat position and how it affects power? I am setting up my tt bike for next season. Basically, my plan has been:

-fair bit of drop
-lots of reach (I think I actually need to hack a bit of bar off to get uci legal)
-Narrow hands, arms somewhat narrow as well.
-Shrug shoulders and duck head
-move seat forward to uci limit, tipped slightly down.

My question is on the last one. My old approach was to leave my seat setup the same as on my road bike. This year I'm determined to spend more time on the tt bike, and I think a more forward seat preserves my hip angles from my road bike position more. I'm thinking this will improve sustainable power. What do you all think? At some point soon I'll get the PT on it and do some testing. I'm also worried about short-term power when not in the aerobars. What can I do to maximize that while still having a fast tt position.

Oh, yeah, the title is from what someone told me the other day, "tting is about getting up on your nutsack and burning a hole in it." (I'm trying to avoid that)

My experience is somewhat limited and I'm sure there are experts that could chime in, but my experience has been that people vary significantly in bot the rate at and extent to which they can adapt to a new position. I found I was able to get very low in a position fairly similar to my road position in terms of seat setback and saddle height, but when I tried coming forward to far I lost a lot of comfort and power. A friend I set up came a heck of a long way forward and felt strong and comfortable. Another guy, who is very muscular and hasn't ridden road for a long time was uncomfortable in any position.

My conclusion: position yourself using the guiding principles of aerodynamics that are listed in heaps of places. Saddle setback, height, etc aren't dominant considerations. Then, fiddle with saddle position, etc, to make sure you are comfortable. I would be wary of the 'big slam', especially initially. I think plenty of people can slam low without slamming forward.

whoawhoa said:

Sorry for the rambling nature of this thread.

What is the general feeling on hip angles/seat position and how it affects power? I am setting up my tt bike for next season. Basically, my plan has been:

-fair bit of drop
-lots of reach (I think I actually need to hack a bit of bar off to get uci legal)
-Narrow hands, arms somewhat narrow as well.
-Shrug shoulders and duck head
-move seat forward to uci limit, tipped slightly down.

My question is on the last one. My old approach was to leave my seat setup the same as on my road bike. This year I'm determined to spend more time on the tt bike, and I think a more forward seat preserves my hip angles from my road bike position more. I'm thinking this will improve sustainable power. What do you all think? At some point soon I'll get the PT on it and do some testing. I'm also worried about short-term power when not in the aerobars. What can I do to maximize that while still having a fast tt position.

Oh, yeah, the title is from what someone told me the other day, "tting is about getting up on your nutsack and burning a hole in it." (I'm trying to avoid that)

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When the saddle moves forward, it should also rise. Think abou the distance from the BB, as you move forward, move up.

Stretch you lower back, glutes, and hamstrings. Train in the position.