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  1. Archive-Name: uk/walking/boots
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    URL: users.ox.ac.ukurw boot.txt

    UK.REC.WALKING Frequently Asked Questions (Boots)

    Version 1.5 Last Updated Monday 30th December 2002

    This FAQ contains material pertaining the acquisition
    of boots designed for and appropriate for country and
    hill walking.

    THINGS YOU MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT BOOTS

    We often get questions along the lines of 'Which boot should
    I buy ?'. There's no really hard and fast rules other than
    you get what you pay for. Good boots do cost a lot of money
    but you can avoid paying over the odds for your chosen pair
    by shopping around for the best price. Without going into an
    enormous amount of detail, here are some things that you
    might consider.

    Fit The fit of the boot is the most important factor in
    considering a purchase. Boots made outside the UK
    (especially Italy) are often a narrower fit than boots made
    in the UK. Apparantly British people have wide feet so if
    you try on a non-British boot and it's a bit of a squeeze
    try and find a boot made in the UK. Regardless, try on as
    many boots as you can in the price range you can afford as
    no two boots will be the same anyway.

    Size Most people will require a boot that is larger than
    their normal shoesize. A good rule of thumb is, while
    wearing a pair of socks that you intend wearing with your
    boots, put your intended purchase on your foot *without*
    lacing it up. Now push your foot forward so that your toes
    touch the toe of the boot. If you can comfortably fit a
    finger or thumb into the gap between your heel and the heel
    of the boot then the boot is probably the right size. The
    toe gap allows you to descend a slope while taking your body
    weight on the instep of your foot rather than your toes.
    Move your heel well into the heel cup of the boot and lace
    it up, making sure that you're not lacing too tight. Walk
    around the shop to see if the heel of your foot 'rises'
    within the boot despite being laced up. A significantly
    rising heel will probably blister on even the smallest walk
    and the boots are unlikely to ever be comfortable. The
    rising is caused through a combination of the stiffening of
    the sole of the boot and too large an instep gap in the boot
    cavity. The foot flexes away from the stiffened sole into
    the instep gap causing the heel to rise. If you have already
    bought a boot that permits too much movement consider
    fitting it with a padded footbed to reduce the amount of
    space in the boot. Extra socks may also help but the
    footbeds will reduce the amount of vertical space in the
    boot without affecting the other dimensions. If a footbed
    uncomfortably restricts the space available in the toe of
    the boot then consider using heel pads. Some insoles double
    as a shock absorbing medium. Specific brands include
    Sorbothane, Eagle Rock and Superfeet. The author's own
    preference is for Sorbothane which has been found to be both
    extremely comfortable and very long lasting.

    Midsoles A midsole is piece of stiffened material, usually
    nylon, that is incorprated in the sole of the boot. If you
    intend doing a lot of hill walking then a boot with
    stiffened midsole will help considerably in stopping your
    feet from getting tired too quickly. Some boots have
    significantly stiffened midsoles and these will also permit
    the use of walking crampons if you are going to go winter
    walking. If all you are going to do is low level walking
    then a moderately stiffened midsole will probably prove
    sufficient when something quite stiff will probably prove
    uncomfortable.

    Material Leather or Fabric ? Fabric was trendy for a while
    but *most* people have found it to be less hard wearing and
    reliable than leather. It's still pretty good for summer
    walking though. If buying leather then boots made from a
    single piece are less prone to leaks but are correspondingly
    more expensive. Multi-piece boots, usually manufactured from
    the off-cuts of single piece boots, need a bit more care but
    are cheaper.

    Seasons A 4 season boot is one that is designed for all-year-
    round use but, in that it is suitable for winter walking, it
    is likely to be too heavy and warm for comfortable summer
    walking. A good 3 season boot will cope with non-extreme
    winter walking and, if stiff enough, will take a walking
    crampon while still being light enough to be comfortable in
    all but the hottest weather.

    Breathable linings Many manufacturers these days offer at
    least one model of boot in thier range which incorporates a
    breathable lining. The most common lining is Goretex but
    there are others. Theoretically the lining permits the foot
    to breathe while minimising the liklihood of wet feet. In
    reality breathable linings offer minimal improvement on the
    basic design of boots and make the care of the boot more
    complex. All boot linings are prone to abrasion by the foot
    and breathable linings are no different. The lining is thus
    unlikely to remain intact physically for more than a
    fraction of the potential lifetime of the boot structure. In
    fabric boots the lining can become clogged with the fine
    dust that penetrates the nylon shell or even by spray- based
    boot care products. Also, breathable fabrics work through
    vapour pressure differential. A waterlogged outer shell is
    likely to have a much higher vapour pressure than the inside
    of the boot causing water to migrate *into* the boot
    eventually. Linings in leather boots are likely to be more
    effective while they last but a well built and looked after
    leather boot can offer all of the characteristics offered by
    breathable liners while at the same time being infinitely
    more robust. Many feel that it's a gimic aimed at parting
    the unwary purchaser from thier readies but if the boot is
    only intended only for occaisional, light use and is
    unlikely to be used so heavily so as to threaten the
    physical integrity of the liner then it may be worth the
    added expense.

    Service A good shop will let you try the boots on in the
    shop and will invariably provide you with some walking socks
    to use while doing so. They will let you pay for the boots
    and take them home so that you can wear them around the
    house for a couple of days. If they turn out to be really
    uncomfortable then, as long as they have not been taken
    outside the house or damaged in any way the shop should
    either allow you to exchange them or give you your money or
    a credit note back. Don't take our word for it though, check
    with the shop before you buy.

    Boot Care There is a wide range of footwear care products
    that are designed to be used in conjunction with the usual
    cleaning described below. Look for the following;

    Nikwax Waterproofing Wax for Leather (the original Nikwax)
    Nikwax Aqueous Wax for Leather Nikwax Nubuck and Suede
    Waterproofing Nikwax Fabric and Leather Waterproofing Nikwax
    Footwear Cleaning Gel Nikwax Conditioner for Leather
    (restores suppleness)

    Grangers NT Footwear Protector (for all materials) Grangers
    NT Footwear Conditioner (for leather) Grangers NT Footwear
    Cleaner Grangers Footwear Proofer (Spray -for leather,
    nubuck, suede and fabric) Grangers Footwear Conditioner
    (Spray for nubuck and suede) Grangers Footwear Cleaner
    (Spray) Grangers G-Wax Beeswax Proofing for all smooth
    leathers (Spray or Wax) Grangers Leather Conditioner
    Grangers G-Sport Waterproofer (Spray - for all materials)

    Caring for leather boots: Some manufacturers these days coat
    their boots with a hydrophobic substance which is an
    effective repellent for water but which will eventually wear
    off. The boot should be periodically cleaned in warm, clean
    water and allowed to dry naturally ( as opposed to dry by
    placing next to a heat source). Leather boots should *never*
    be force-dried as it will encourage the leather to crack)
    before applying one of a number of different
    waterproofing/conditioning substances all of which have
    their merits and demerits; Natural Wax (Dubbin) is readily
    absorbed but may cause the leather to become overly pliable
    with prolonged use. Synthetic Wax (eg. Nikwax) is best
    applied with the fingers as the warmth makes it easier to
    apply. Liquid Repellents ( eg. Liquid Nikwax ) are applied
    with a brush and do not have to be 'forced' into the
    stitching of the boot. Prolonged application of liquid
    reppellent may also cause the leather to become overly
    pliable. If your boots get really wet then you should stuff
    them with newspaper to draw any water out of the liner while
    the leather is drying. The newspaper should be replaced
    periodically.

    Caring for nubuck leather: Dried in a similar fashion to
    ordinary leather boots but to clean, wash in warm, soapy (
    non-detergent ) water with a soft brush. While still damp (
    as opposed to wet or dry ) apply a liquid repellent like
    Liquid Nikwax.

    Caring for fabric boots: Care of fabric boots is pretty much
    the same as for leather. If they are not waterproofed you
    can use a water repellant such as Grainger's G-Sport, which
    you simply spray on when the boots are clean and dry. You
    need to apply a couple of coats and allow a few hours for
    the boots to fully absorb it. The coating should be re-
    applied as necessary, e.g., after you have washed and dried
    the boots. To keep the boots clean, simply brush off any
    excess mud, and then wash them in clean warm water. The best
    way to dry them (as with leather boots) is to stuff them
    with paper and leave them in a warm place. You can get away
    with putting fabric boots next to a heat source to dry but
    beware any leather or suede reinforcing patches. If the
    boots are a fabric/suede mix, you can use a special brush to
    revitalise the nap of the suede bits. You should do this
    before applying any water repellant.

    Socks It's logical to chuck in a short discussion about
    socks when talking about buying boots. Unfortunately there's
    loads of different ones and you can't really try them on and
    take them back in the same way you can boots. It's unlikely
    that you'll find your preferred sock the first time you buy.
    It may take years which is a pain when these days walking
    socks cost a pretty penny. As a general rule, modern,
    cushioned walking socks are designed to be worn as a single
    pair but if a single pair does not afford your feet either
    the protection or the comfort that you require then consider
    wearing a pair of thin inners underneath them. You can buy
    sepcial inners, they'll be on the same shelf as the outers,
    but these are expensive and you may just require a thin pair
    of cotton sports socks. The theory is that the inner and the
    outer will move relative to each other as you walk. This
    significantly reduces the risk of abrasive blistering.
    Beware, however. In hot weather this combination is likely
    to cause excessive sweating which in itself can lead to
    blistering. Reputable names in the sock manufacturing arena
    include both Thorlo and Bridgedale. They are not cheap. You
    get what you pay for.

    And a final word Is it really a boot that you need ? There
    is a presumption that if you are going out into the hills
    then you should have a 'stout pair of walking boots' but the
    experience of many people is that while there are many
    circumstances in which boots are a must there are just as
    many where they clearly are not the best thing that you
    could have on your feet. Lugging around an extra Kilogram or
    more on each foot on a dry, warm day is perhaps not the best
    strategy when a pair of well-made, lightweight cross-
    trainers or even walking sandals might well make the whole
    experience even more enjoyable than it would be in boots.

  2. Oh! I never knew this :-(

    Common sense?

    --

    "Chris Gilbert" <[email hidden]> wrote in
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    URL: users.ox.ac.ukurw boot.txt

    UK.REC.WALKING Frequently Asked Questions (Boots)

    Version 1.5 Last Updated Monday 30th December 2002

    This FAQ contains material pertaining the acquisition of
    boots designed for and appropriate for country and hill
    walking.

    THINGS YOU MIGHT LIKE TO KNOW ABOUT BOOTS

    We often get questions along the lines of 'Which boot
    should I buy ?'. There's no really hard and fast rules
    other than you get what you pay for. Good boots do cost a
    lot of money but you can avoid paying over the odds for
    your chosen pair by shopping around for the best price.
    Without going into an enormous amount of detail, here are
    some things that you might consider.

    Fit The fit of the boot is the most important factor in
    considering a purchase. Boots made outside the UK
    (especially Italy) are often a narrower fit than boots
    made in the UK. Apparantly British people have wide feet
    so if you try on a non-British boot and it's a bit of a
    squeeze try and find a boot made in the UK. Regardless,
    try on as many boots as you can in the price range you can
    afford as no two boots will be the same anyway.

    Size Most people will require a boot that is larger than
    their normal shoesize. A good rule of thumb is, while
    wearing a pair of socks that you intend wearing with your
    boots, put your intended purchase on your foot *without*
    lacing it up. Now push your foot forward so that your toes
    touch the toe of the boot. If you can comfortably fit a
    finger or thumb into the gap between your heel and the
    heel of the boot then the boot is probably the right size.
    The toe gap allows you to descend a slope while taking
    your body weight on the instep of your foot rather than
    your toes. Move your heel well into the heel cup of the
    boot and lace it up, making sure that you're not lacing
    too tight. Walk around the shop to see if the heel of your
    foot 'rises' within the boot despite being laced up. A
    significantly rising heel will probably blister on even
    the smallest walk and the boots are unlikely to ever be
    comfortable. The rising is caused through a combination of
    the stiffening of the sole of the boot and too large an
    instep gap in the boot cavity. The foot flexes away from
    the stiffened sole into the instep gap causing the heel to
    rise. If you have already bought a boot that permits too
    much movement consider fitting it with a padded footbed to
    reduce the amount of space in the boot. Extra socks may
    also help but the footbeds will reduce the amount of
    vertical space in the boot without affecting the other
    dimensions. If a footbed uncomfortably restricts the space
    available in the toe of the boot then consider using heel
    pads. Some insoles double as a shock absorbing medium.
    Specific brands include Sorbothane, Eagle Rock and
    Superfeet. The author's own preference is for Sorbothane
    which has been found to be both extremely comfortable and
    very long lasting.

    Midsoles A midsole is piece of stiffened material, usually
    nylon, that is incorprated in the sole of the boot. If you
    intend doing a lot of hill walking then a boot with
    stiffened midsole will help considerably in stopping your
    feet from getting tired too quickly. Some boots have
    significantly stiffened midsoles and these will also
    permit the use of walking crampons if you are going to go
    winter walking. If all you are going to do is low level
    walking then a moderately stiffened midsole will probably
    prove sufficient when something quite stiff will probably
    prove uncomfortable.

    Material Leather or Fabric ? Fabric was trendy for a while
    but *most* people have found it to be less hard wearing
    and reliable than leather. It's still pretty good for
    summer walking though. If buying leather then boots made
    from a single piece are less prone to leaks but are
    correspondingly more expensive. Multi-piece boots, usually
    manufactured from the off-cuts of single piece boots, need
    a bit more care but are cheaper.

    Seasons A 4 season boot is one that is designed for all-year-
    round use but, in that it is suitable for winter walking,
    it is likely to be too heavy and warm for comfortable
    summer walking. A good 3 season boot will cope with non-
    extreme winter walking and, if stiff enough, will take a
    walking crampon while still being light enough to be
    comfortable in all but the hottest weather.

    Breathable linings Many manufacturers these days offer at
    least one model of boot in thier range which incorporates
    a breathable lining. The most common lining is Goretex but
    there are others. Theoretically the lining permits the
    foot to breathe while minimising the liklihood of wet
    feet. In reality breathable linings offer minimal
    improvement on the basic design of boots and make the care
    of the boot more complex. All boot linings are prone to
    abrasion by the foot and breathable linings are no
    different. The lining is thus unlikely to remain intact
    physically for more than a fraction of the potential
    lifetime of the boot structure. In fabric boots the lining
    can become clogged with the fine dust that penetrates the
    nylon shell or even by spray- based boot care products.
    Also, breathable fabrics work through vapour pressure
    differential. A waterlogged outer shell is likely to have
    a much higher vapour pressure than the inside of the boot
    causing water to migrate *into* the boot eventually.
    Linings in leather boots are likely to be more effective
    while they last but a well built and looked after leather
    boot can offer all of the characteristics offered by
    breathable liners while at the same time being infinitely
    more robust. Many feel that it's a gimic aimed at parting
    the unwary purchaser from thier readies but if the boot is
    only intended only for occaisional, light use and is
    unlikely to be used so heavily so as to threaten the
    physical integrity of the liner then it may be worth the
    added expense.

    Service A good shop will let you try the boots on in the
    shop and will invariably provide you with some walking
    socks to use while doing so. They will let you pay for the
    boots and take them home so that you can wear them around
    the house for a couple of days. If they turn out to be
    really uncomfortable then, as long as they have not been
    taken outside the house or damaged in any way the shop
    should either allow you to exchange them or give you your
    money or a credit note back. Don't take our word for it
    though, check with the shop before you buy.

    Boot Care There is a wide range of footwear care products
    that are designed to be used in conjunction with the usual
    cleaning described below. Look for the following;

    Nikwax Waterproofing Wax for Leather (the original Nikwax)
    Nikwax Aqueous Wax for Leather Nikwax Nubuck and Suede
    Waterproofing Nikwax Fabric and Leather Waterproofing
    Nikwax Footwear Cleaning Gel Nikwax Conditioner for
    Leather (restores suppleness)

    Grangers NT Footwear Protector (for all materials)
    Grangers NT Footwear Conditioner (for leather) Grangers NT
    Footwear Cleaner Grangers Footwear Proofer (Spray -for
    leather, nubuck, suede and fabric) Grangers Footwear
    Conditioner (Spray for nubuck and suede) Grangers Footwear
    Cleaner (Spray) Grangers G-Wax Beeswax Proofing for all
    smooth leathers (Spray or Wax) Grangers Leather
    Conditioner Grangers G-Sport Waterproofer (Spray - for all
    materials)

    Caring for leather boots: Some manufacturers these days
    coat their boots with a hydrophobic substance which is an
    effective repellent for water but which will eventually
    wear off. The boot should be periodically cleaned in warm,
    clean water and allowed to dry naturally ( as opposed to
    dry by placing next to a heat source). Leather boots
    should *never* be force-dried as it will encourage the
    leather to crack) before applying one of a number of
    different waterproofing/conditioning substances all of
    which have their merits and demerits; Natural Wax (Dubbin)
    is readily absorbed but may cause the leather to become
    overly pliable with prolonged use. Synthetic Wax (eg.
    Nikwax) is best applied with the fingers as the warmth
    makes it easier to apply. Liquid Repellents ( eg. Liquid
    Nikwax ) are applied with a brush and do not have to be
    'forced' into the stitching of the boot. Prolonged
    application of liquid reppellent may also cause the
    leather to become overly pliable. If your boots get really
    wet then you should stuff them with newspaper to draw any
    water out of the liner while the leather is drying. The
    newspaper should be replaced periodically.

    Caring for nubuck leather: Dried in a similar fashion to
    ordinary leather boots but to clean, wash in warm, soapy (
    non-detergent ) water with a soft brush. While still damp
    ( as opposed to wet or dry ) apply a liquid repellent like
    Liquid Nikwax.

    Caring for fabric boots: Care of fabric boots is pretty
    much the same as for leather. If they are not waterproofed
    you can use a water repellant such as Grainger's G-Sport,
    which you simply spray on when the boots are clean and
    dry. You need to apply a couple of coats and allow a few
    hours for the boots to fully absorb it. The coating should
    be re-applied as necessary, e.g., after you have washed
    and dried the boots. To keep the boots clean, simply brush
    off any excess mud, and then wash them in clean warm
    water. The best way to dry them (as with leather boots) is
    to stuff them with paper and leave them in a warm place.
    You can get away with putting fabric boots next to a heat
    source to dry but beware any leather or suede reinforcing
    patches. If the boots are a fabric/suede mix, you can use
    a special brush to revitalise the nap of the suede bits.
    You should do this before applying any water repellant.

    Socks It's logical to chuck in a short discussion about
    socks when talking about buying boots. Unfortunately
    there's loads of different ones and you can't really try
    them on and take them back in the same way you can boots.
    It's unlikely that you'll find your preferred sock the
    first time you buy. It may take years which is a pain when
    these days walking socks cost a pretty penny. As a general
    rule, modern, cushioned walking socks are designed to be
    worn as a single pair but if a single pair does not afford
    your feet either the protection or the comfort that you
    require then consider wearing a pair of thin inners
    underneath them. You can buy sepcial inners, they'll be on
    the same shelf as the outers, but these are expensive and
    you may just require a thin pair of cotton sports socks.
    The theory is that the inner and the outer will move
    relative to each other as you walk. This significantly
    reduces the risk of abrasive blistering. Beware, however.
    In hot weather this combination is likely to cause
    excessive sweating which in itself can lead to blistering.
    Reputable names in the sock manufacturing arena include
    both Thorlo and Bridgedale. They are not cheap. You get
    what you pay for.

    And a final word Is it really a boot that you need ? There
    is a presumption that if you are going out into the hills
    then you should have a 'stout pair of walking boots' but
    the experience of many people is that while there are many
    circumstances in which boots are a must there are just as
    many where they clearly are not the best thing that you
    could have on your feet. Lugging around an extra Kilogram
    or more on each foot on a dry, warm day is perhaps not the
    best strategy when a pair of well-made, lightweight cross-
    trainers or even walking sandals might well make the whole
    experience even more enjoyable than it would be in boots.

  3. Jonti wrote

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    Oh! I never knew this :-(

    Common sense?

    So killfile it.

    Chris

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