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  1. I ran across a new book at Barnes and Noble this afternoon. It's
    called _Biocosm: The New Scientific Theory of Evolution: Intelligent
    Life Is the Architect of the Universe_ by James N. Gardner:

    2-4679039?v=glance&s=books or

    tinyurl.comrtfz

    The Amazon web page shows that this book could have interest for some on sci.bio.evolution. The book
    does not appear to be a work of pedestrian crackpottery, nor to spring from a hidden religious
    agenda. The book jacket features favorable blurbs from quite few well known people in the arena of
    public science, including one glowing endorsement from the arch skeptic Michael Shermer (much to my
    surprise), and others from Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, and John Casti.

    I demurred from purchasing the book right away, ensconced as I am at present in reading several
    other quite interesting books (_Empires of Light_: The Race to Electrify the World, Elaine Pagels'
    _Beyond Belief_, and Richard Dawkin's new book of essays, _A Devil's Chaplain_), and would be
    interested in hearing people's opinions about _Biocosm_, if such opinions are informed ones.

    [email hidden]

    "Reports of the demise of teleology have been greatly exagerated"

  2. "dkomo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I ran across a new book at Barnes and Noble this afternoon. It's called _Biocosm: The New
    Scientific Theory of Evolution: Intelligent Life Is the Architect of the Universe_ by James N.
    Gardner:

    2-4679039?v=glance&s=books or

    tinyurl.comrtfz

    The Amazon web page shows that this book could have interest for some on sci.bio.evolution. The
    book does not appear to be a work of pedestrian crackpottery, nor to spring from a hidden
    religious agenda. The book jacket features favorable blurbs from quite few well known people in
    the arena of public science, including one glowing endorsement from the arch skeptic Michael
    Shermer (much to my surprise), and others from Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, and John Casti.

    Just a short skEPTic (so not just skeptic) comment:

    I don't feel like aligning myself with your *perhaps ignorant* assertion that these people do not
    have a religious agenda. But sight unseen I AM prepared to under-rignt the possibility of the book
    not being a work of _pedestrian_ crackpot(s). ;-) I hope you are prepared to be warned and to
    consider that (metaphorically speaking):- Even in some very fine crockery there are almost
    invisible, and so not always spotted, hair-line fractures.

    Yours not always deceptively joking,

    P

    ---
    The author of this post is the conceptualizer behind EPT [an Evolutionary Psychology (-type) Thesis]
    and 'FOOT'.

    These two labels refer to the same philanthropically oriented overview of mainly the
    anthropobiological aspect of 'What Is going on'. However, the last label is best used for
    emphasizing: the effectively philosophy terminating philosophical perspective (Foremost Overview Of
    Truth) that gets into focus (Tolerably or accEPTably so) if one applies a degree of fuzzsilly logic
    from a slightly off-center position on an explanatory platform of terms that (amongst else) allows
    'elevated philosophical thinking' about any prospective (obtained or not) peripheral (compared to
    FOOT) TOE.

    %-]

  3. Peter F. said:


    "dkomo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I ran across a new book at Barnes and Noble this afternoon. It's called _Biocosm: The New
    Scientific Theory of Evolution: Intelligent Life Is the Architect of the Universe_ by James N.
    Gardner:

    2-4679039?v=glance&s=books or

    tinyurl.comrtfz

    The Amazon web page shows that this book could have interest for some on sci.bio.evolution. The
    book does not appear to be a work of pedestrian crackpottery, nor to spring from a hidden
    religious agenda. The book jacket features favorable blurbs from quite few well known people in
    the arena of public science, including one glowing endorsement from the arch skeptic Michael
    Shermer (much to my surprise), and others from Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, and John Casti.

    Just a short skEPTic (so not just skeptic) comment:

    I don't feel like aligning myself with your *perhaps ignorant* assertion that these people do not
    have a religious agenda.

    Of "these" people (Michael Shermer, Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, John Casti), which of them do you
    think has a religious agenda and why?

    Shermer is a columnist for Scientific American, writing the monthly column "Skeptic", and is also a
    well known creationist deflator. He is also the publisher of _Skeptic_ magazine. Casti has written a
    number of books, some of which I've read, and I don't recall him even indirectly expressing
    religious sentiment. Martin Rees is a cosmologist and Britain's royal astronomer (whatever the hell
    that is). He's quite agnostic. The only one who might even remotely have a religious agenda is the
    physicist Paul Davies, who wrote the acclaimed book _The Mind of God_. He has expressed some
    sympathy with the thesis of intelligent design.

    Besides, the main idea in the _Biocosm_ book, that the universe continually reproduces itself and
    evolves by creating intelligent life, is not something a religious believer of the Western variety
    would normally accept. Standard religious dogma holds that there is One Creator who designed One
    Universe -- this one -- which was carefully tuned and designed to support Man. It says so in the
    Book of Genesis.

    Quoted message said:

    But sight unseen I AM prepared to under-rignt the possibility of the book not being a work of
    _pedestrian_ crackpot(s). ;-) I hope you are prepared to be warned and to consider that
    (metaphorically speaking):- Even in some very fine crockery there are almost invisible, and so not
    always spotted, hair-line fractures.

    If crockery ships with hairline fractures, it's often because the Chief Inspector is absent. The
    Chief Inspector is, of course, a metaphor for verifiability in science. Any theory, no matter how
    fine on the surface, may be seriously defective unless it can be empirically verified.

    There are those that think that the fine crockery known as evolutionary psychology is an example of
    such a plausible sounding, but largely unverifiable theory. I trust that you are prepared to take
    your own warning seriously.

    Quoted message said:

    Yours not always deceptively joking,

    P

    ---
    The author of this post is the conceptualizer behind EPT [an Evolutionary Psychology (-type)
    Thesis] and 'FOOT'.

    These two labels refer to the same philanthropically oriented overview of mainly the
    anthropobiological aspect of 'What Is going on'. However, the last label is best used for
    emphasizing: the effectively philosophy terminating philosophical perspective (Foremost Overview
    Of Truth) that gets into focus (Tolerably or accEPTably so) if one applies a degree of fuzzsilly
    logic from a slightly off-center position on an explanatory platform of terms that (amongst else)
    allows 'elevated philosophical thinking' about any prospective (obtained or not) peripheral
    (compared to FOOT) TOE.

    %-]

  4. "dkomo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Peter F. said:


    "dkomo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I ran across a new book at Barnes and Noble this afternoon. It's called _Biocosm: The New
    Scientific Theory of Evolution: Intelligent Life Is the Architect of the Universe_ by James N.
    Gardner:

    2-4679039?v=glance&s=books or

    tinyurl.comrtfz

    The Amazon web page shows that this book could have interest for some on sci.bio.evolution.
    The book does not appear to be a work of pedestrian crackpottery, nor to spring from a hidden
    religious agenda. The book jacket features favorable blurbs from quite few well known people
    in the arena of public science, including one glowing endorsement from the arch skeptic
    Michael Shermer (much to my surprise), and others from Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, and John
    Casti.

    Just a short skEPTic (so not just skeptic) comment:

    I don't feel like aligning myself with your *perhaps ignorant* assertion that these people do
    not have a religious agenda.

    Of "these" people (Michael Shermer, Paul Davies, Sir Martin Rees, John Casti), which of them do
    you think has a religious agenda and why?

    Shermer is a columnist for Scientific American, writing the monthly column "Skeptic", and is also
    a well known creationist deflator. He is also the publisher of _Skeptic_ magazine. Casti has
    written a number of books, some of which I've read, and I don't recall him even indirectly
    expressing religious sentiment. Martin Rees is a cosmologist and Britain's royal astronomer
    (whatever the hell that is). He's quite agnostic. The only one who might even remotely have a
    religious agenda is the physicist Paul Davies, who wrote the acclaimed book _The Mind of God_. He
    has expressed some sympathy with the thesis of intelligent design.


    My alarmbells are ringing! An agnostic (*if* that is what he is) - is a 'border-line Baptist (or
    Bahai, for that matter)'. That is, that guy is not skEPTic (or EPT, or does not hsve enough of a FOOT-
    hold) enough IMHO. %-}

    Quoted message said:

    Besides, the main idea in the _Biocosm_ book, that the universe continually reproduces itself and
    evolves by creating intelligent life

    [N.B. "AEVASIVEly intelligent life" would have been more EPT %-}]

    Quoted message said:

    , is not something a religious believer of the Western variety would normally accept. Standard
    religious dogma holds that there is One Creator who designed One Universe -- this one -- which was
    carefully tuned and designed to support Man. It says so in the Book of Genesis.

    Quoted message said:

    But sight unseen I AM prepared to under-rignt the possibility of the book not being a work of
    _pedestrian_ crackpot(s). ;-) I hope you are prepared to be warned and to consider that


    (metaphorically

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    speaking):- Even in some very fine crockery there are almost invisible,


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    so not always spotted, hair-line fractures.

    If crockery ships with hairline fractures, it's often because the Chief Inspector is absent. The
    Chief Inspector is, of course, a metaphor for verifiability in science. Any theory, no matter how
    fine on the surface, may be seriously defective unless it can be empirically verified.

    Until one thoroughly rationally realizes that empirical verifiability also depends on our capacity
    to experience, and that this capacity is normally circumscribed (euphemism for constrained) by us
    having evolved into a most distincly AEVASIVE species/direction, then even a clever and well-
    considered comment such as yours can be classified somewhat inEPT.

    Quoted message said:


    There are those that think that the fine crockery known as evolutionary psychology is an example
    of such a plausible sounding, but largely unverifiable theory.

    If unverifiable by mental and/or mechanistic means for ultimately realistic and thoroughly
    understood (entirely in alignement with by science thoroughly established principles and theories)
    reasons, then that is an entirely accEPTable (i.e. an in a sense "effectively philosophy
    terminating"😉 situation.

    I trust that you are prepared to

    Quoted message said:

    take your own warning seriously.

    I'd be damned if I don't. %-}

    Regards,

    P

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