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Bicyclists' Interference with Visitors

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  1. I recently traveled to Pennsylvania and on a Sunday off visited Valley
    Forge National Historic Site near Philadelphia. There is a barely one
    lane, one way traffic road that takes visitors in cars around the
    encampment site, and many places where I wanted to stop and take
    photographs. I'd never been there before and was driving cautiously
    and slow.

    The local cycling fraternity apparently have adopted the same road to
    ride as fast as they can, which is of course normal for most
    experienced cyclists seeking a good week-end workout. But, twice I was
    almost run over by cyclists coming around bends in the road, or out
    from behind the car behind me, when I stopped to take a picture.

    The combination of tourists on a park road and fast cyclists could have
    been deadly. Frankly, I was surprised the National Park Service
    permitted the cyclists. A leisurely ride by a novice on a rented bike
    was one thing (I saw none of them on this road), but I felt I might
    have stumbled into the middle of someone's Century.

    One cyclist wasn't very polite about me, either, finding it necessary
    to yell obscenities for my audacity to want to take a picture of the
    scenery in this beautiful spot.

    Dave
    PS -- I'm just as serious about my cycling as my photography. See,
    www.clarklawfirm.com, and http://home.earthlink.net/~dc1999/.

  2. Quoted message said:

    I recently traveled to Pennsylvania and on a Sunday off visited Valley
    Forge National Historic Site near Philadelphia. There is a barely one
    lane, one way traffic road that takes visitors in cars around the
    encampment site, and many places where I wanted to stop and take
    photographs. I'd never been there before and was driving cautiously
    and slow.

    The local cycling fraternity apparently have adopted the same road to
    ride as fast as they can, which is of course normal for most
    experienced cyclists seeking a good week-end workout. But, twice I was
    almost run over by cyclists coming around bends in the road, or out
    from behind the car behind me, when I stopped to take a picture.

    The combination of tourists on a park road and fast cyclists could have
    been deadly. Frankly, I was surprised the National Park Service
    permitted the cyclists. A leisurely ride by a novice on a rented bike
    was one thing (I saw none of them on this road), but I felt I might
    have stumbled into the middle of someone's Century.

    One cyclist wasn't very polite about me, either, finding it necessary
    to yell obscenities for my audacity to want to take a picture of the
    scenery in this beautiful spot.

    Hmm. The first thing that occurred to me is that cyclists riding as
    fast as they can, are usually going the same speed as motorists driving
    as slow as they ever do. I doubt the cyclists exceeded 25 mph, meaning
    they were probably within the legal speed limit.

    Second thing I wondered: Where were you standing when you were just
    around the bend? You should stop well off the roadway, whether you're
    in a car, on a bike or standing with a camera. If you were nearly run
    over, you were probably in a place you shouldn't have been.

    Is it different than what I'm visualizing? If so, how?

    - Frank Krygowski

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    One cyclist wasn't very polite about me, either, finding it necessary
    to yell obscenities for my audacity to want to take a picture of the
    scenery in this beautiful spot.

    the answer was simple. STOP DRIVING THERE and ride a bike
    instead.

    IMHO the park service should keep out cars and allow only
    bicycles, except for those with handicapped plates or stickers.

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    Quoted message said:

    I recently traveled to Pennsylvania and on a Sunday off visited Valley
    Forge National Historic Site near Philadelphia. There is a barely one
    lane, one way traffic road that takes visitors in cars around the
    encampment site, and many places where I wanted to stop and take
    photographs. I'd never been there before and was driving cautiously
    and slow.

    The local cycling fraternity apparently have adopted the same road to
    ride as fast as they can, which is of course normal for most
    experienced cyclists seeking a good week-end workout. But, twice I was
    almost run over by cyclists coming around bends in the road, or out
    from behind the car behind me, when I stopped to take a picture.

    The combination of tourists on a park road and fast cyclists could have
    been deadly. Frankly, I was surprised the National Park Service
    permitted the cyclists. A leisurely ride by a novice on a rented bike
    was one thing (I saw none of them on this road), but I felt I might
    have stumbled into the middle of someone's Century.

    One cyclist wasn't very polite about me, either, finding it necessary
    to yell obscenities for my audacity to want to take a picture of the
    scenery in this beautiful spot.


    You seem to be standing IN THE ROAD taking photographs, if you were almost
    run over by cyclists coming around bends in the road. No road cyclist is
    going to try to run you over if you are off the edge of the road. They don't
    like to get grass stains on their tires.

    So, in what way is a cyclist going maybe 20 max around a bend more dangerous
    to you than an SUV going maybe 20 min around a bend?

    If you are opening your door without checking for vehicles behind you, and
    that's what you meant when you said they nearly ran you over when you
    stopped to take a picture, then you are lucky nobody (including you) was
    seriously hurt.

    When did photographers get the right of way on public thoroughfares?

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