bicycle camping

iakobski said:

I weighed mine this morning. On the Argos site they advertise it as
1.5kg. I took out the spare poles and swapped the metal pegs for
plastic ones, so mine weighs exactly 1210g.

As Judith pointed out, that'll be the new "improved" one. And I must
sat I share her reservations about single skin tents. When done
Properly they use expensive technical fabrics to prevent condensation,
but still have condensation and insulation issues. It should be fine in
okay-ish weather, but for prolonged cack with nowhere for storage out of
the wind and rain and nowhere to sit up properly it would be a bit of a
PITA, I think.

Again, at £15 you can't really complain that it's poor value, but I go
cycle camping for fun, not to save money. And I think my potential for
serious non-fun would be much greater in a tent like that than something
like the Spacepacker I use.

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The Tikka I mentioned is LED, and very light and small.

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Sounds good - I'll look at getting one for my next trip.

Well worth the purchase price. IIRC the original Petzl Zoom headtorch
used to be marketed as "Voted Best Aid to Lambing!" in a farmers' rag,
so clearly the sort of thing Everyone Should Have! ;-)

Pete.
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C.J.Patten said:

Looking forward to my next trip back to Flemington ... always a treat to
camp out there.
Next time, I'll have my bike with me! YAY!

😄

C.

If you pass by Belleville or Nutley again, look me up and you can ride
your bike with this crazy old broad. (the one with that Jersey girl
attitude). ;-)

Maggie

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If you pass by Belleville or Nutley again, look me up and you can ride
your bike with this crazy old broad. (the one with that Jersey girl
attitude). ;-)

Maggie

LOL! Count on it! (I might take a trip to Hoboken to get one of Vito's
famous subs - wanna come along? :9

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If you pass by Belleville or Nutley again, look me up and you can ride
your bike with this crazy old broad. (the one with that Jersey girl
attitude). ;-)

Maggie

LOL! Count on it! (I might take a trip to Hoboken to get one of Vito's
famous subs - wanna come along? :9

ahhhhh Vito's Deli on Washington Street. How cruel to mention that
place while I am dieting. ;-) There is a little bit of heaven in that
homemade mozzarella. I'd never pass up a sanguicccch from Vito's.

Maggie.

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lowkey said:

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3) what would be considered a "luxury" bike-camping kit selection
without
getting stupid about it? (eg: a porta-potty is ridiculous)

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Small propane [or other fuel] stove, A bigger tent, Water
filter/treatment,
air mattress [in place of sleeping pad]

You put water treatment third, but depending on where you plan on
cycling, it should be first.

Austin (nothing will spoil a trip of any type faster than dysentery)

Well ya. I was assuming that the 'lite-loadout' camper was getting potable
water along the way.

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ahhhhh Vito's Deli on Washington Street. How cruel to mention that
place while I am dieting. ;-) There is a little bit of heaven in that
homemade mozzarella. I'd never pass up a sanguicccch from Vito's.

Maggie.

8p Man, I miss Joisey!

BTW: if you're on Washington Street, is "Benny Tudino's" still there? Benny
immigrated to Canada before opening his own pizza joint & I've been to the
restaurant he worked at here in Canada. 🙂

When I was heading back to Canada via regional jet, I brought a Vito's sub
with me. About the time the stewardess was pushing cookies on everyone, I
opened my Vito's sub. Heheheheheh. Suckas! ;p

C.

C.J.Patten said:

8p Man, I miss Joisey!

BTW: if you're on Washington Street, is "Benny Tudino's" still there? >
When I was heading back to Canada via regional jet, I brought a Vito's sub
with me. About the time the stewardess was pushing cookies on everyone, I
opened my Vito's sub. Heheheheheh. Suckas! ;p

C.

Last I was there Benny's Pizza was still a legend. Anyone who opens a
Sang-wich from Vito's on a plane while others are eating dog bisquits
and drinking little plastic cups filled with soda is evil. ;-) I like
that in a person.
;-)

When you write about this stuff it only makes me love Joisey more. And
I sure wish you could have seen Newark when I was a kid. It was
fabulous. We didn't need NYC....we had Newark. Incredible. My parents
moved us to Suburban Nutley when I was just a kid. When the riots
happened. I missed Newark. I hated "the burbs", My fondest memories
are of Newark. I missed it. I missed everything about it.

Too bad so many people will never know what a great place it was. And
you could ride your bike anywhere. And you could keep your door
unlocked. Now you need a bodyguard to walk around down there. DAMN
SHAME!!!

Maggie. Waiting for her Vito's Sangwich.

Leo Lichtman said:

"C.J.Patten" (clip) I'm thinking along the lines of taking a few weeks and
cycling out of town, stopping at various campsites along the route.
Thoughts?
^^^^^^^^^^^^
After reading all the posts about tents, their bulk and weight, and the
discussion about trailers, I started visualizing a tent that uses the bike
for support (in place of poles, or a trailer that converts to a tent. Well,
i9t looks like someone is 3way ahead of me. Check this website:
www.topeak.com

Problem with that tent is that it is a freakin BILLBOARD. Anyone
using one of those in the backcountry should be charged with assault.

C.J.Patten said:

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"C.J.Patten" wrote: That IS a pretty cool tent... (too bad I only have
20" wheels... 😉 (clip)
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I just reread the description on the website, and I can't find why you
feel that 20" wheels would be a problem. It looks to me like the tent is
supported by the handlebars. What am I missing?

OH! I though the front wheel was being used structurally to create the
circular end of the tent - opposite the end where the bike is. Maybe that's
not the case...

The front wheel is used to support the tent. That initial picture is
taken from such an angle to make it bigger than it is. Look at this
page http://www.topeak.com/products/Topeak-BikamperProdcutlisting.html
and you will see it is pretty flawed in the design of the fly too.
They obviously didn't think about Welsh or Scottish rain that comes
along horizontally.
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The front wheel is used to support the tent. That initial picture is
taken from such an angle to make it bigger than it is. Look at this
page http://www.topeak.com/products/Topeak-BikamperProdcutlisting.html
and you will see it is pretty flawed in the design of the fly too.
They obviously didn't think about Welsh or Scottish rain that comes
along horizontally.

Certainly NOT the best coverage as flies go - but who knows without using
it? The inner section may have some weather resistant properties. Who knows.

One thing I did notice though: "Bikamper is designed to be used with 26"
mountain or 700C road bikes." If you're using a 20" folder, you're FUBAR.

Phil Cook said:

The front wheel is used to support the tent. That initial picture is
taken from such an angle to make it bigger than it is. Look at this
page http://www.topeak.com/products/Topeak-BikamperProdcutlisting.html
and you will see it is pretty flawed in the design of the fly too.
They obviously didn't think about Welsh or Scottish rain that comes
along horizontally.

I can't work out how you crawl in and out of it.

Leo Lichtman said:

You're probably right, but you are interfering with one of my main sources
of pleasure: if something is clever enough, it needn't be better--I want
it.

"Clever enough" == "better" in this particular context, at least for me.
The Hilleberg Akto is a damn site more clever than that Topeak thing
because it weighs less, has more space, will almost certainly last
longer, be more weatherproof and is more flexible in operation. How
clever is that?

Pete.
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In article said:

You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies will be my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

Alan Braggins said:

In article said:

You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies will be my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

Or unless you have a very catholic palate, slugs... ;-)

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You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies will be
my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

I'll take down a bear. No problem.

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You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

Or unless you have a very catholic palate, slugs... ;-)

<shudder>

Chris' two rules for food:
1) no fungus
2) no invertebrates

Both do bad things to me...

<yuck>

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You can bet anything that gets close enough to sniff my supplies
will be my
next meal. :9

You're not planning camping anywhere near bears then?

I'll take down a bear. No problem.

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

Mike Latondresse said:

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

I encountered a bear in my brothers backyard in Pennsylvania. I
thought the bear was cute. But I was behind a glass patio door. ;-) He
was watching me like I was in the zoo.

No comments from the peanut gallery.

Maggie

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You have never encountered a bear obviously.

You assume too much.

Wed, 15 Jun 2005 17:12:46 GMT,
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Mike Latondresse mikelat@no_spam_shaw.ca said:

You have never encountered a bear obviously. Even the small brown
ones are scarey, the blacks are very scary and I pray that I never
see a grizzly outside a zoo.

I hope another grizzly never has to see the _inside_ of a zoo.

There was one killed near a switch on the CPR Mountain Subdivision and
for about two weeks the other one would be around there guarding the
carcass or something. Sitting in the siding meeting other trains gave
me a few opportunities to view one up close from the safety of a
locomotive cab. There were occasionally train orders warning of
grizzlies at other stations so I've seen a few where they belong.
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