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  1. WIENERS (FRANKFURTERS) From "GREAT SAUSAGE RECIPES AND MEAT
    CURING" by Rytek Kutas

    INGREDIENTS FOR 25 LBS. INGREDIENTS FOR 10 LBS. 5 cups ice
    water 2 cups ice water 5 tsp. lnstacure No. 1 2 level tsp.
    Instacure No. 1
    2/3 cup paprika 4 Tb. paprika 1 cup ground mustard 6 Tb.
    ground mustard 2-1/2 tsp. ground black pepper 1 tsp.
    ground black pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground white pepper 1 tsp.
    ground white pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground celery seeds 1 tsp.
    ground celery seeds 2-1/2 Tb. mace 1 Tb. mace 2-1/2 tsp.
    garlic powder 1 tsp. garlic powder
    3/3 cup salt 4 Tb. salt 5 cups non-fat dry milk or 2 cups
    non-fat dry milk or soy protein concentrate soy protein
    concentrate
    4/3 cup powdered dextrose 4 Tb. powdered dextrose 15 lbs.
    lean beef (chuck) 6 lbs. lean beef (chuck) 10 lbs. lean
    pork trimmings 4 lbs. lean pork trimmings (pork butts)
    (pork butts)

    You may use 1 oz. coriander in place of the mace. If a
    wiener of lighter color is desired, omit the paprika.
    Wieners can be made from many different meats, as well as
    any combination of meats. In some cases, people want to use
    the leftovers when they butcher their livestock, while
    others prefer a quality wiener.

    GRINDING & MIXING For home use, grind the meat together
    using a plate with very fine holes 3/16". After grinding,
    mix all the meat with above ingredients. Mix for 2-3 minutes
    or until all ingredients are evenly distributed with the
    meat. Emulsify meat, following emulsifying instructions
    found in "GREAT SAUSAGE RECIPES AND MEAT CURING" by Rytek
    Kutas" (with food processor, in batches, with small amounts
    of ice water) then pack into stuffer using a 24-26 mm sheep
    casing to stuff wieners.

    SMOKING AND COOKING After stuffing, hang wieners on properly
    spaced smokehouse sticks. Be sure wieners are not touching
    each other. You may rinse the wieners off with cold water if
    necessary.

    Allow wieners to hang at room temperature when using natural
    casings (about 1 hour). When using collagen or synthetic
    casings, hang at room temperature for about 30 minutes.
    Wieners should be smoked as follows: Place into preheated
    smokehouse and dry for approximately 30 minutes. Apply heavy
    smudge for approximately 90 minutes, gradually raise
    smokehouse temperature to 165° F and smoke until internal
    temperature of 138° F. Transfer to steam cabinet cooker and
    cook at 165° F for 5-1 0 minutes, or until an internal
    temperature of 152-155° F is obtained. Spot-check various
    wieners to be sure that these temperatures are reached. If
    you do not have a steam cabinet, you may leave the wieners
    in the smokehouse at 165° F until you obtain 152° F
    internally. After smoking or cooking, the wieners should be
    quickly showered with cool water for about 10 minutes or
    until the internal temperature is reduced to 100-110° F
    After showering with cold water, allow wieners to chill and
    dry at room temperature or until desired bloom is obtained.

    CHILLING Wieners should be placed in 45-50° F cooler and
    chilled until product has reached an internal
    temperature of 50° F
    ---

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  2. PENMART01 said:

    WIENERS (FRANKFURTERS) From "GREAT SAUSAGE RECIPES AND
    MEAT CURING" by Rytek Kutas

    INGREDIENTS FOR 25 LBS. INGREDIENTS FOR 10 LBS. 5 cups ice
    water 2 cups ice water 5 tsp. lnstacure No. 1 2 level tsp.
    Instacure No. 1
    2/3 cup paprika 4 Tb. paprika 1 cup ground mustard 6 Tb.
    ground mustard 2-1/2 tsp. ground black pepper 1 tsp.
    ground black pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground white pepper 1
    tsp. ground white pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground celery seeds
    1 tsp. ground celery seeds 2-1/2 Tb. mace 1 Tb. mace 2-
    1/2 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. garlic powder
    2/3 cup salt 4 Tb. salt 5 cups non-fat dry milk or 2 cups
    non-fat dry milk or soy protein concentrate soy protein
    concentrate
    2/3 cup powdered dextrose 4 Tb. powdered dextrose 15 lbs.
    lean beef (chuck) 6 lbs. lean beef (chuck) 10 lbs. lean
    pork trimmings 4 lbs. lean pork trimmings (pork butts)
    (pork butts)


    [snip]

    Here's another one from University of Wisconsin extension
    office. Comparing the 2 recipes without having tried either,
    I like the spicing of the UW recipe better, but I don't see
    how the UW recipe would work without the milk powder or soy
    protein for a binder (the Kutas recipe) -- maybe if you use
    mature meat (from a cow rather than a young steer or heifer)
    it will bind the fat well enough without the protein
    additives.

    I would probably add at least a cup of nonfat dry milk
    powder to the recipe below. It's not kosher anyway:

    WIENERS

    6. lbs. beef
    7. lbs. pork
    8.5 lbs. ice [crushed]
    9.2 oz. salt .7 oz. sugar .5 oz. ground white pepper .3 oz.
    ground coriander .2 oz. ground nutmeg .1 oz. ground
    mustard Sodium nitrite (see instructions)*

    Grind beef and pork through a 1/4 inch plate. If a silent
    cutter is available, chop the beef with the salt, nitrite,
    and half the ice to a temperature of 45oF. Add the pork,
    spices and remaining ice, and chop until proper texture is
    achieved, but not beyond a temperature of 58oF in the meat
    mixture. If a silent cutter is not available, a coarser
    textured product can be made by grinding the beef through a
    1/8 inch plate and mixing thoroughly with the ice, cure,
    salt and spices. Grind the pork through a 1/8 inch plate and
    add to mixture. Blend until a uniform consistency is
    achieved. Stuff into natural or cellulose casings and hold
    over night at 40oF. Wieners are cooked in the smokehouse by
    slowly increasing the temperature from 130-170oF. Smoke may
    be applied during all or part of the cooking period.

    * Elsewhere in the article it says how to add sodium nitrite
    -- either use Morton's "Tender Quick" instead of the
    recipe's salt, or add 1/4 ounce pure sodium nitrite per
    100 pounds of meat (not advised), or add .4 ounces (11
    grams) of 6% curing salt (like Instacure #1 or Prague
    Powder #1) per 10 pounds of meat.

    Here's a link to the whole article, with lots of recipes and
    info: <http://www.uwex.edu/ces/flp/meatscience/sausage.html>

    Best regards, Bob

  3. (PENMART01) said:

    WIENERS (FRANKFURTERS) From "GREAT SAUSAGE RECIPES AND MEAT
    CURING" by Rytek Kutas

    INGREDIENTS FOR 25 LBS. INGREDIENTS FOR 10 LBS. 5 cups ice
    water 2 cups ice water 5 tsp. lnstacure No. 1 2 level tsp.
    Instacure No. 1
    2/3 cup paprika 4 Tb. paprika 1 cup ground mustard 6 Tb.
    ground mustard 2-1/2 tsp. ground black pepper 1 tsp.
    ground black pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground white pepper 1 tsp.
    ground white pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground celery seeds 1 tsp.
    ground celery seeds 2-1/2 Tb. mace 1 Tb. mace 2-1/2 tsp.
    garlic powder 1 tsp. garlic powder
    2/3 cup salt 4 Tb. salt 5 cups non-fat dry milk or 2 cups
    non-fat dry milk or soy protein concentrate soy protein
    concentrate
    2/3 cup powdered dextrose 4 Tb. powdered dextrose 15 lbs.
    lean beef (chuck) 6 lbs. lean beef (chuck) 10 lbs. lean
    pork trimmings 4 lbs. lean pork trimmings (pork butts)
    (pork butts)

    These would make for some pretty dry hotdogs - Not
    enough fat IMO.

    -sw

  4. Steve Wertz said:

    On 19 Mar 2004 17:03:43 GMT, [email hidden]

    (PENMART01) said:

    WIENERS (FRANKFURTERS)

    Quoted message said:

    From "GREAT SAUSAGE RECIPES AND MEAT CURING" by
    Rytek Kutas

    Quoted message said:

    INGREDIENTS FOR 25 LBS. INGREDIENTS FOR 10 LBS. 5 cups ice
    water 2 cups ice water 5 tsp. lnstacure No. 1 2 level tsp.
    Instacure No. 1
    2/3 cup paprika 4 Tb. paprika 1 cup ground mustard 6 Tb.
    ground mustard 2-1/2 tsp. ground black pepper 1 tsp.
    ground black pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground white pepper 1
    tsp. ground white pepper 2-1/2 tsp. ground celery seeds
    1 tsp. ground celery seeds 2-1/2 Tb. mace 1 Tb. mace 2-
    1/2 tsp. garlic powder 1 tsp. garlic powder
    2/3 cup salt 4 Tb. salt 5 cups non-fat dry milk or 2 cups
    non-fat dry milk or soy protein concentrate soy protein
    concentrate
    2/3 cup powdered dextrose 4 Tb. powdered dextrose 15 lbs.
    lean beef (chuck) 6 lbs. lean beef (chuck) 10 lbs. lean
    pork trimmings 4 lbs. lean pork trimmings (pork butts)
    (pork butts)

    These would make for some pretty dry hotdogs - Not enough
    fat IMO.

    -sw

    Agreed. This recipe probably won't emulsify very well. If
    you use "lean pork trimmings" you'll have to add more fat.

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