Banana peels

hippy said:

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Originally posted by Terry Collins Whilst the occassional
banana may not seem significant, this same attitude
applied to garden and household waste is destroying urban
bushland. Garden and household green waste when dumped in
the bush changes the nutrient cycle and allows the
invasion of exotic species, apart from the fact that
often it takes root.

We are talking about a banana peel here, thrown off the
side of a 'road'.

Ooh, did I hit a guilty nerve? {:-) And I did ack that the
thread was only about a nana.

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This isn't some super sensitive wildlife reserve,

I was just point out that as a general thing, chucking
rubbish in the bush isn't a good idea. Personally I prefer
to take it home, or at least bury it. I've seen too many
camp sites when touring that are essentially just large
rubbish bins

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Ooh, did I hit a guilty nerve? {:-)

Damn right! :-)

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Quoted message said:

This isn't some super sensitive wildlife reserve,

I was just point out that as a general thing, chucking
rubbish in the bush isn't a good idea. Personally I prefer
to take it home, or at least bury it. I've seen too many
camp sites when touring that are essentially just large
rubbish bins

Sadly, I have to agree 🙁 It really pisses me off when I
head down the river in my 'home town' and find stacks of old
camp fire remains filled with half destroyed tins, cans,
glass bottles, fishing tackle, car parts, boating gear, tin
foil, etc... Like I said, I don't drop nana peels, but I
have. I doubt 'not dropping' peels would stop others leaving
their busted glass everywhere, but if enough people don't
'chuck it', maybe the river dumping trend would one day
end...??? Wishful thinking... :-S

hippy

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Originally posted by Hippy

It really pisses me off when I head down the river in my 'home town' and find stacks of old camp fire remains filled with half destroyed tins, cans,glass bottles, fishing tackle.....
hippy

Off topic, re: banana skins & cycling, but the subject of discarded fishing tackle hit home hard today. Was on a walking tour of St Kilda breakwater, we found a little fairy penguin, recently strangled by fishing line. 🙁

Poor little bugger, goes out fishing for his supper, gets strangled by a lazy human probably fishing for their supper as well, but too !-kng lazy to clean up afterwards. A woman from Earthcare was with us, she told us that these deaths happen at least once a week. 😠

You throw a skin, I throw a skin and if we all throw a skin,
the bush would be come blocked to buggery. "it's only one
skin" I hear you cry, but if you ride 5 days a week, that's
5 skins x 52 weeks = 260 skins and that's just your
contribution.

Having cycled around Australia I can tell you that we do not
need that amount of skins added to the millions of cigarette
butts, coke cans, plastic bottle, babies nappies and
trillions of kilometres of toilet paper that everyone threw
out thinking "it's only one.... it won't make a difference.

Perhaps rather than throwing it out in the bush, or getting
"goopy" hands, why not carry a small plastic bag in your
pocket and dump it in there then put the bag in your pocket
and dump it later in a proper receptacle.

It won't weigh much and after all, it's only one.....

regards

Andrew

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Is it acceptable to hurl your empty peel into the foliage
(making sure that your not going to scone some
unsuspecting person, first of course)

i have been getting into the habit of scoffing a banana on
my morning commute as i cant stand eating the 'bix before
i set out. makes me feel flat (unless well beforehand) and
if i dont devour it before i get to dight falls I run out
of reasonable places to 'park' it

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Ooh, did I hit a guilty nerve? {:-)

Damn right! :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

This isn't some super sensitive wildlife reserve,

I was just point out that as a general thing, chucking
rubbish in the bush isn't a good idea. Personally I
prefer to take it home, or at least bury it. I've seen
too many camp sites when touring that are essentially
just large rubbish bins

Sadly, I have to agree 🙁 It really pisses me off when I
head down the river in my 'home town' and find stacks of
old camp fire remains filled with half destroyed tins,
cans, glass bottles, fishing tackle, car parts, boating
gear, tin foil, etc... Like I said, I don't drop nana
peels, but I have. I doubt 'not dropping' peels would stop
others leaving their busted glass everywhere, but if
enough people don't 'chuck it', maybe the river dumping
trend would one day end...??? Wishful thinking... :-S

hippy

I'm starting a campaign in my town to get rid of drinks in
glass containers. Most rubbish can be picked up but broken
glass is difficult to remove and is a danger and a menace to
everyone. Do the right thing and don't buy beverages in
glass. If enough people do this the world will be a better
and safer place.

Marty

Around Australia Recumbent Style said:

You throw a skin, I throw a skin and if we all throw a
skin, the bush would be come blocked to buggery. "it's only
one skin" I hear you cry, but if you ride 5 days a week,
that's 5 skins x 52 weeks = 260 skins and that's just your
contribution.

Having cycled around Australia I can tell you that we do
not need that amount of skins added to the millions of
cigarette butts, coke cans, plastic bottle, babies nappies
and trillions of kilometres of toilet paper that everyone
threw out thinking "it's only one.... it won't make a
difference.

The big difference is that a banana skin in biodegradable -
very. The other stuff in general isn't.

Quoted message said:

Perhaps rather than throwing it out in the bush, or getting
"goopy" hands, why not carry a small plastic bag in your
pocket and dump it in there then put the bag in your pocket
and dump it later in a proper receptacle.

And then what? It gets chucked into some landfill somewhere?
I'm sorry, but I see that as being just as environmentally
'unsound' (if not more so) as pieces of banana skin, apple
cores (which you should eat, btw) and bread being cast
around the bush. Nature uses organic waste to recover
essential nutrients for continued processing.

However, I DO draw the line at dumping garden waste
(especially exotic plants) into the environment. So many of
today's weeds are garden ornamentals gone astray.

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Cheers

PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no
stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

flyingdutch
Is it acceptable to hurl your empty peel into the foliage
(making sure that your not going to scone some unsuspecting person, first of course)

No. Because a roadside littered with banana skins teaches native animals that a road is a food source, and splat! More roadkill.

idiot

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Originally posted by idiot

No. Because a roadside littered with banana skins teaches native animals that a road is a food source, and splat! More roadkill.

idiot

good point!

i probably 'only' do about 2-3 a week (2 during the week down near Kew billabong and one on weekend along beach road

shall try and pocket em and offload at Mordialloc and this morning i spotted a bin next to carpark at dight falls, so I am to become a reformed 'nana peel hurler!

PS all my greenwaste at home goes to the chooks!
You aint had eggs till you had truly fresh eggs. Best protien load available (apart from Hops derivatives, that is :-) )

and cfsmtb, I hear you re the fishing nylon left along so many of our beaches. Always pick it up when i see it and the kids do too
Used to live at 4 Marine Parade, opposite the marina and wandered along there alot. Do you still see seals down there?

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Originally posted by flyingdutch
and cfsmtb, I hear you re the fishing nylon left along so many of our beaches. Always pick it up when i see it and the kids do too
Used to live at 4 Marine Parade, opposite the marina and wandered along there alot. Do you still see seals down there?

Not sure about the seals, but apparentely there's 500+ happy little fairy penguins down on the breakwater. They very happy when there's no stray fishing line......

About seals or other wildlife, these people should know;
http://home.vicnet.net.au/~earthcar/

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Originally posted by idiot
flyingdutch
Is it acceptable to hurl your empty peel into the foliage
(making sure that your not going to scone some unsuspecting person, first of course)

No. Because a roadside littered with banana skins teaches native animals that a road is a food source, and splat! More roadkill.

idiot

^^^ IMHO, the best point made so far!

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2004 12:07:40 GMT, "Around Australia

Recumbent Style said:

You throw a skin, I throw a skin and if we all throw a
skin, the bush

would

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Quoted message said:

be come blocked to buggery. "it's only one skin" I hear
you cry, but if you ride 5 days a week,

that's 5

Quoted message said:

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skins x 52 weeks = 260 skins and that's just your
contribution.

Having cycled around Australia I can tell you that we do
not need that amount of skins added to the millions of
cigarette butts, coke cans,

plastic

Quoted message said:

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bottle, babies nappies and trillions of kilometres of
toilet paper that everyone threw out thinking "it's only
one.... it won't make a

difference.

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The big difference is that a banana skin in biodegradable
- very. The other stuff in general isn't.

It's not that good. I can remember many a black horrible
looking thing lying next to the road taking its time to
disappear and although it will eventually do that, so will a
plastic bag (in about 100 years or so). I think that people
get hung up on this "it's food and natural so it will break
down. Toilet paper theoretically breaks down quickly as
well, after all, it is just paper, a one time natural wood
product, but guess what, it takes ages to break down just
thrown in the bush, just like a banana skin.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Perhaps rather than throwing it out in the bush, or
getting "goopy"

hands,

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

why not carry a small plastic bag in your pocket and dump
it in there

then

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

put the bag in your pocket and dump it later in a proper
receptacle.

And then what? It gets chucked into some landfill
somewhere? I'm sorry, but I see that as being just as
environmentally 'unsound' (if not more so) as pieces of
banana skin, apple cores (which you should eat, btw) and
bread being cast around the bush. Nature uses organic
waste to recover essential nutrients for continued
processing.

Sure, but at least a landfill is contained to a certain area
(until they build on top of it and start another one) rather
than just thrown all over the place. Yes, nature does
recover essential nutrients for continued proessing but I
don't think there are many places around the city or out of
the growing areas that usually recover this from bananas
which won't grow there naturally.

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However, I DO draw the line at dumping garden waste
(especially exotic plants) into the environment. So many
of today's weeds are garden ornamentals gone astray.

Yes, but on the basis of your arguments above, they are
natural product and as such should be able to go anywhere
other than a landfill.

The basis of my argument was that no matter what it is, if
we all think "its only one...." we have a problem where as
if we "control" our waste by putting it in a responsible
place (landfill), it's controlled andIMHO, nowhere as bad.
Who wants to pick a nice spot on the side of the road to
camp when touring only to find rotting bits of food and the
like? Not me, I've had my try at that.

Ooroo 4 now.

Andrew.

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PeterC

[Rushing headlong: out of control - and there ain't no
stopping]
[and there's nothing you can do about it at all]

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I would considering it acceptable to throw my nana skin
into the bushes in my garden. Must be ok to do the same in
the bushes on the side or the road/bike path!

It's a great way to encourage European Wasps.

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It's a great way to encourage European Wasps. [/B]

AAArrrrrkkkkk!!!!!!!

Hate them!#@!#!!!!

After reading this thread last week decided to leave the 'nana at home and went with dried apricots and 'tarnies. Worked a treat too!

No wasps, landfill, dogs, black-shapes or anything else mentioned hereabouts.
Very easy to handle on the bike too...

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Originally posted by jazmo
I guess you've just got to ask the question - what would the cops do if they saw you throwing a banana peel into the bushes?

I know what the cops would do if they caught you doing other things in the bushes...*Grin*

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Originally posted by crankthebigring
I know what the cops would do if they caught you doing other things in the bushes...*Grin*

throw 'nana peels at you ???

or possibly follow yuo an push all the pedestrian lights on your trip to slow you down LOL

It's a great way to encourage European Wasps. [/B][/QUOTE]
Not to mention Mr Rattus norvegicus:eek:

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Originally posted by Meeba
It's a great way to encourage European Wasps.

Not to mention Mr Rattus norvegicus:eek: [/B][/QUOTE]

Norwegian rats???

Norwegian rats??? [/B][/QUOTE]

The Brown Rat (Rattus norvegicus) is one of the most well-known and common rats, and also one of the largest. Traditionally the dominant rodent of Europe and thought to have originated in northern China, the Brown Rat has spread to all continents, and is a common pest wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and degraded environments.

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Originally posted by Meeba

... the Brown Rat has spread to all continents, and is a common pest wherever humans live, particularly in urban areas and degraded environments. [/B]

sure you arent thinking of real estate agents?

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Meeba said:

... the Brown Rat has spread to all continents, and is
a common pest wherever humans live, particularly in
urban areas and degraded environments.

sure you arent thinking of real estate agents?

He couldn't be. real estate agents lack both the ethics and
the charm of the common rat.