Avoiding becoming cyclist shaped...

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On Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:37:10 +0100, Jon Senior

jon_AT_restlesslemon_DOTco_DOT_uk said:

The sit-ups to lose the gut is a very "Men's Health"
concept!

Next time you go shopping look at the cover of Men's
Health in a supermarket near you.

Five pounds says the following will be on the cover:

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oblivion.

...without paying....

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2. How to get a flatter stomach.

...without exercise....
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David Brown :o) said:

Powerkites give an excellent workout, can be bought quite
cheap and are great fun :o)

That reminds me, I've got a kite in the next room with a
broken spar. Any ideas where I can get a new one (carbon
fibre I *think*, thought it may be fibreglass)?

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If you join a club and you use their boats, most clubs
have a 6 week starter course to let you try before you
buy; this time of year is when they run typically. It's ok
to hate the ergo though, most rowers do

too!!!!

Yes, the mention of 2k or 5k will draw fear into many a
rower.

Seriously though, the techniques of many people in gyms on
ergos (rowing machines) is very suspect - and probably use a
lot more energy than is really required for the "split time"
shown on the display. If you join a rowing club, you'll find
that with proper technique, you'll make both strength and
fitness gains. A list of rowing clubs in the UK can be found
on the ARA's website ara-ara-Open ↗
rowing.org/regions/regions.php

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Rowing....

Yep this seems to work for me, and is good when the
weather outside is bad if you have an indoor rower (eg
concept2, waterrower etc - not one of those nasty thingies
from argos!)

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following...

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Next time you go shopping look at the cover of Men's
Health in a supermarket near you.

Five pounds says the following will be on the cover:

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oblivion.

2. How to get a flatter stomach.

A concept I was well aware of. It is a standing joke between
myself and another friend that Men's Health consists of:

"Get a six pack in only 4 weeks" "Last longer in bed"

Since those are the only articles it runs, the readership
must presumably change every month. Or the people who buy
it, fail to achieve their aims, and continue buying it in
the hope that next time it'll work.

Jon

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:55:49 +0100, "Adrian Boliston"

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Rowing....

Yep this seems to work for me, and is good when the
weather outside is bad if you have an indoor rower (eg
concept2, waterrower etc - not one of those nasty thingies
from argos!)

Same here. I was delighted to find out the other day that
not only indoor rowing is a competitive sport, but that the
times that I'm putting in for both 500m and 2K aren't that
much off the pace for competition. Trainer-type bloke at the
Jim reckons that with a bit more work, I'd stand a chance of
getting placed in an event!

Blimey. That mean I'd be a proper fit person and everything.
Not bad for a (now a bit less) lardy bloke.

So, I think I might enter the Nationals. In a small country
like NZ, I stand a chance of not coming last as long as the
competition isn't too strong. :-)

Anyway, I quite like the rowing machine. Sure, it's a bit
dull, but it's great for switching the mind off at the end
of the day. Just stop thinking about things and focus on the
breathing.
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Doki said:

I'll need considerably bigger arms before I even try rock
climbing.

There speaks someone who hasn't tried it!

Go to Froggat Edge and have a shot at some of the slabs.
Some of the best climbers in the world have walked up one or
two of them with their hands behind their backs. All
balance, no arms required 🙂

Rock climbing is more about balance and technique than it is
about raw strength.

Now, if you want to climb in overhanging limestone quarries,
then that's a different kettle of mustard. I never had the
stamina in the arms for that...

Phil
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Doki said:

Anyone got any ideas for a decent sport to take up to
avoid eventually having really powerful legs and dead
scrawny arms and torso? It's not like I'm in grave danger
of that happening yet though 😉.

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Tony

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That reminds me, I've got a kite in the next room with a
broken spar. Any ideas where I can get a new one (carbon
fibre I *think*, thought it may be fibreglass)?

Doki:

Speak to Keith (Chalkie) White here:
kiteworks.co.ukindex.shtmlOpen ↗

He's *very* good to deal with and will advise you.

Robert

Doki said:

Russ said:

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Anyone got any ideas for a decent sport to take up to
avoid eventually having really powerful legs and dead
scrawny arms and torso? It's not like I'm in grave
danger of that happening yet though 😉.

Apologies to anyone who's getting sick of my millions of
questions whilst I'm here 😉.

Rock Climbing should do it - much more interesting than
press ups or swimming

I'll need considerably bigger arms before I even try rock
climbing.

I had a session at an indoor climbing wall once with a
friend who was a keen rock climber. It was great fun,
relatively controlled, predictable, safe and protected from
the elements. While real rocks are not far from where I
live, the Leeds Wall is much more convenient. I rarely do
any exercise other than cycling and indoor climbing is
certainly doable for an hour or so. There is nothing wrong
with being cyclist shaped though, cyclists come in all sorts
of shapes and sizes anyway, train for track sprinting[1] and
you will not look like Iban Mayo.

[1] Track Sprinters do lots of upper body gym work BTW

If you want to balance out your physique then it's a given that you will have to add muscle mass to your upper torso and arms. The best way to do this is to start lifting weights at a gym and chow some serious steroids (joke). Get one of the trainers to devise you a programme that will seek to maximise size at first. Once you start to add pounds, decide when you are 'balanced', and then go for endurance training.

I do the odd bit of rowing on one of those indoor rowing machines. It hasn't added any size but is a useful aerobic supplement to my cycling. I can do 8km with an average of 1.59.56 minutes per 500 metres. Technique is the key to good times here. I've lost track of the number of people frantically hauling on the bar grips, chain flying everywhere, burning calories furiously, but going really slowly.

Swimming is also a good upper body exercise - although if you are swimming properly then you will be using your legs.

You could also try some mountain biking, I find that it forces you to get better at bike handling (or you'll be kissing a lot of dirt).

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Swimming is also a good upper body exercise - although
if you are swimming properly then you will be using
your legs.

Although triathletes swim differently from those who train
to be fast over short distances: the legs are much les used
when one is going to get out of thewater and on to the bike.

Hence the earlier suggestion to take up tri.
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Doki said:

David Brown :o) said:

Powerkites give an excellent workout, can be bought quite
cheap and are great fun :o)

That reminds me, I've got a kite in the next room with a
broken spar. Any ideas where I can get a new one (carbon
fibre I *think*, thought it may be fibreglass)?

Go see Chalkie at kiteworks.co.ukkiteworks.co.ukOpen ↗ ( he's a
cyclist as well )

Tell him I sent you.

Steve in NZ

Whingin' Pom said:

On Wed, 28 Apr 2004 00:55:49 +0100, "Adrian Boliston"

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Rowing....

Yep this seems to work for me, and is good when the
weather outside is bad if you have an indoor rower (eg
concept2, waterrower etc - not one of those nasty thingies
from argos!)

Same here. I was delighted to find out the other day that
not only indoor rowing is a competitive sport, but that
the times that I'm putting in for both 500m and 2K aren't
that much off the pace for competition. Trainer-type bloke
at the Jim reckons that with a bit more work, I'd stand a
chance of getting placed in an event!

Blimey. That mean I'd be a proper fit person and
everything. Not bad for a (now a bit less) lardy bloke.

So, I think I might enter the Nationals. In a small
country like NZ, I stand a chance of not coming last as
long as the competition isn't too strong. :-)

Anyway, I quite like the rowing machine. Sure, it's a bit
dull, but it's great for switching the mind off at the end
of the day. Just stop thinking about things and focus on
the breathing.

But where do you put the walkman... you can't stand the gym
music for long! Eurotrash has just hit ours in Christchurch,
right on the pulse as ever (:

Steve

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Anyway, I quite like the rowing machine. Sure, it's a bit
dull, but it's great for switching the mind off at the end
of the day. Just stop thinking about things and focus on
the breathing.

Can you suggest a decent rowing machine? I might have a
go at that.

David Brown :o) said:

kiteworks.co.ukSpars.shtmlOpen ↗ or any kite shop.

Ere, I wrote that! Not too yellow is it?

Steve

Roger Hughes said:

Cycling uses a lot more upper body and torso muscle than
you might think (very much the same balance as rowing, in
fact), although only sprinters get a lot of muscle
development above the waist.

I'm not sure this is strictly true? The rowing stroke
explodes at the catch in the legs and accelerates in the
arms and back; this doesn't happen in cycling, even at high
speed or strenuous climbing -- unless I'm doing it all wrong
(which is a distinct possibility)!!!!

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Regards, Mark

Whingin' Pom said:

Same here. I was delighted to find out the other day that
not only indoor rowing is a competitive sport, but that the
times that I'm putting in for both 500m and 2K aren't that
much off the pace for competition. Trainer-type bloke at
the Jim reckons that with a bit more work, I'd stand a
chance of getting placed in an event!

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Blimey. That mean I'd be a proper fit person and
everything. Not bad for a (now a bit less) lardy bloke.

A bit of weight doesn't hurt on the rowing machine as
you're not supporting the weight. In my rowing days I was
in a team with mainly lightweights and was way ahead on the
rowing machine tests and way behind on the running. And if
the weight is mainly muscle instead of lard it does
actually help :-)

Still, real rowing is a lot nicer!

Roos