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Average Speed: Hybrid vs. Road

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  1. I became interested cycling a year ago and bought a Trek 7500 hybrid. Due to other obligations and a
    very snowy winter, I've only put about 600 miles on it.

    Lately, I've been doing 20 to 35 mile rides on a moderately hilly paved trail with an average speed
    of 15.5 to 16 mph. This is up from 13.5 to 14.5 mph when I started out last summer. I hope to get up
    to around 18 mph.

    Although I love the Trek, my next bike -- hopefully in a year or two -- will definitely be a road
    bike. I realize there are many variables, but how much of a speed increase might I expect with a
    road bike as compared to what I have now?

  2. Undaunted1 said:

    Lately, I've been doing 20 to 35 mile rides on a moderately hilly paved trail with an average
    speed of 15.5 to 16 mph. This is up from 13.5 to 14.5 mph when I started out last summer. I hope
    to get up to around 18 mph.

    Although I love the Trek, my next bike -- hopefully in a year or two -- will definitely be a road
    bike. I realize there are many variables, but how much of a speed increase might I expect with a
    road bike as compared to what I have now?

    In my experience, the difference is probably less than you might expect. But as you said, there are
    many variables. Road bikes almost always have narrow slick tyres with very low rolling resistance,
    but depending on your hybrid's tyres, the difference might not be important. In any case, you can
    always put similar high-performance slicks on your hybrid.

    Aerodynamics is what really can make a big difference. If the road bike has a very aerodynamic (low)
    riding position and you are comfortable in it, the difference in average speed can be significant.
    Easily 2 mph or so. If the riding positions are not that different, you might only get a 1 mph gain.

    The most important thing obviously is that a road bike is a Porsche where a hybrid is more like a
    Toyota. For riding on good, paved roads, it's the finest thing to have. For road riding, most
    cyclists also find the drop bar more comfortable than a flat handlebar. This is especially important
    if you ride longer distances.

    -as

  3. "Undaunted1" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I became interested cycling a year ago and bought a Trek 7500 hybrid. Due to other obligations and
    a very snowy winter, I've only put about 600


    miles

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    on it.

    Lately, I've been doing 20 to 35 mile rides on a moderately hilly paved trail with an average
    speed of 15.5 to 16 mph. This is up from 13.5 to


    14.5

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    mph when I started out last summer. I hope to get up to around 18 mph.

    The Trek 7500 is has a lower, faster riding position than some hybrids.

    Quoted message said:

    Although I love the Trek, my next bike -- hopefully in a year or two --


    will

    Quoted message said:

    definitely be a road bike. I realize there are many variables, but how


    much

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    of a speed increase might I expect with a road bike as compared to what I have now?

    Quite a lot. Above 18mph or so, wind drag becomes the biggest impediment to increased speed. The
    faster you go, the more wind drag slows you down, and the more energy is required to overcome it
    (drag increases as the cube of velocity). So, to achieve higher speeds, you need more muscle power,
    and less drag. The best way to reduce wind drag is by riding in an aerodynamic position. Road bikes
    achieve this with drop bars. Recumbents achieve it naturally, with the legs-out position (very
    aerodynamically efficient.)

    There's another factor besides wind drag. The relatively "open" riding position of hybrids is not
    ideal for power generation. The "closed" riding position of a road bike allows you to make more
    power. Try it for yourself and I think you'll agree. The trick is to be "tucked" enough to get down
    low; but not so much that you restrict breathing. Better to sit taller and breath well than to
    restrict breathing, since that is your power-making fuel (well, the oxidant, anyway).

    Your 7500 is low enough that you can "lean in" and get a semi-tucked riding position; but it won't
    be very comfortable. You could get some bolt-on drop bars for your hybrid. They do exist. They're
    like bar ends for mountain bikes, only they curve down below the bars.

    Several riders in my cycling club use aero bars on their Trek 7500's. One of our riders rode her
    7500FX on a 160-mile ride and averaged over 18 mph for the entire ride. That's on a hybrid, folks.
    Wow. She was using aero bars, BTW.

    Have fun,

    Barry Sanders

  4. Sun, 31 Aug 2003 20:39:37 -0500, <[email hidden]>, "B. Sanders"

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    Several riders in my cycling club use aero bars on their Trek 7500's. One of our riders rode her
    7500FX on a 160-mile ride and averaged over 18 mph for the entire ride. That's on a hybrid, folks.
    Wow. She was using aero bars, BTW.

    Was she riding solo or in a group? It makes a big difference when you can rotate the lead. With
    four riders, you're doing 30% less work 75% of the time.
    --
    zk

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