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  1. Hi folks,

    Can I ask the experts hereabouts if I'm right about something?

    Here goes:

    Am I correct in thinking that Atkins is on the extreme side because he
    didn't work in terms of actual 'glycaemic load' as opposed to 'glycaemic
    index': he rules out or restricts some things -- on the basis of their GI --
    that maybe should be allowed because in practice *they actually have a low
    GL*?

    If this is right, then surely someone who doesn't really get on with the
    usual Atkins regime would be able to add more fruits and vegetables to it --
    if they knew which types!?!

    Do let me know if this is right!

    Thanks,

    Katt.

  2. "Katt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Hi folks,

    Can I ask the experts hereabouts if I'm right about something?

    Here goes:

    Am I correct in thinking that Atkins is on the extreme side because he
    didn't work in terms of actual 'glycaemic load' as opposed to 'glycaemic
    index': he rules out or restricts some things -- on the basis of their
    GI -- that maybe should be allowed because in practice *they actually
    have a low GL*?

    I think Atkins felt that carbs were harmful by themselves, withour regard to
    the effect of GI or GL.

    Quoted message said:

    If this is right, then surely someone who doesn't really get on with the
    usual Atkins regime would be able to add more fruits and vegetables to
    it -- if they knew which types!?!

    Fruits and vegetables are part of the Atkins regime. You can go and buy his
    books or go to the Atkins web stie for more details. There may even be
    newsgroups for the Atkings diet for all I know (or care).

    Jeff

    Quoted message said:

    Do let me know if this is right!

    Thanks,

    Katt.

  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Am I correct in thinking that Atkins is on the extreme side because he


    didn't work in terms of actual 'glycaemic load' as opposed to
    'glycaemic
    index': he rules out or restricts some things -- on the basis of their
    GI --
    that maybe should be allowed because in practice *they actually have a
    low
    GL*? <<

    COMMENT:

    Glycemic load is amount of carbohydrate per serving multiplied by the
    glycemic index of that carbohydrate. It's a better index for what a
    serving of something will do to your blood sugar if you eat it alone.
    For example, carrots have a high glycermic index but a low glycemic
    load because they don't have that much carbohydrate per serving.

    Atkins DID pay attention to total grams of carbohydrate per serving,
    which means his recommendations tend to track glycemic *load* better
    than index. Simply because load varies much more than index from food
    to food. But Atkins didn't particularly track either one.

    SBH

  4. "Katt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    ... Atkins is on the extreme side because he ...


    believes humans are wolves rather than frugivorous apes.
    http://www.ecologos.org/ttdd.html Research|Diet section.

    Laurie

  5. "Thus, they generally are full of nonsense,
    errors of fact, faulty (or no) logic, unsupported rumors, innumeracy,
    errors copied from other credibility-challenged sources, or the

    Amen sister, this describes the contents of the page and it's links.
    Those who consume onlyfruit can never aspire to those of us who consume
    only air, the most spiritual of states..
    unsupported belief systems of various fad-diet microcultures."

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