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Atkins diet/kidneys

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  1. I am sure I read in the updated version of Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution that
    he stated it was safe to go on the diet with a Creatinine level up to 3.5.
    I believe he also said that if your creatinine level was above 3.5 a special
    high fat version of his diet could be used. Any thoughts on this? Thanks,
    John

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    john said:

    I am sure I read in the updated version of Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution that
    he stated it was safe to go on the diet with a Creatinine level up to 3.5.
    I believe he also said that if your creatinine level was above 3.5 a special
    high fat version of his diet could be used. Any thoughts on this? Thanks,
    John

    I read about creatinine and kidney function just the other day.
    Elevated creatinine can be caused by dehydration, strenuous exercise,
    high protein consumption or kidney damage.

    It's not necessarily a marker of a problem.

    Drink your water. Eat a higher % of fat if you're concerned.

    Susan

  3. john said:


    I am sure I read in the updated version of Dr. Atkins Diet Revolution that
    he stated it was safe to go on the diet with a Creatinine level up to 3.5.
    I believe he also said that if your creatinine level was above 3.5 a special
    high fat version of his diet could be used. Any thoughts on this?

    On the one hand the original advice from Dr A was don't start if you
    already have signs of kidney damage, so you're on your own. On
    the other hand several people have posted on ASDLC that they
    have seen improved kidney function or even repaired damage after
    going on Atkins, so you're not as on your own as Dr A originally
    wrote.

    On a high fat version - If you read carefully enough with an open
    mind and then work the numbers yourself, Atkins is high fat. The
    chapter on Induction even warns against limiting fat consumption
    as doing that will "derail your loss".

    Let's try running my own numbers to see how it tends to work out:

    My CCLL is 50 total (I fall out of ketosis at 55-60) and my CCLM
    is 100 total (I see water retention gain and appetite increase near
    110). My ideal weight is about 170-180 so my daily calorie target
    is about 1800. Since extra protein grams are just extra calories
    that get converted to carbs at around 50% efficiency 100 should be
    enough for me.

    1800 - ( 50 carb grams * 4 cal/carb-gram ) = 1600 calories after
    carbs.

    1600 - ( 100 protein grams * 4 cal/protein-gram ) = 1200 calories
    after
    carbs and protein = 1200 fat calories

    1200 fat cal / 9 cal/fat-gram = 133.333...

    It takes extra effort to keep my protein grams down to 100, but
    100 grams of protein, 50 grams of carb and 133 grams of fat is
    definitely high fat. And it is well within not just a "high fat
    version
    of Atkins" but well within just plain regular old Atkins.

    In other words go high fat, there's no need to call it a high fat
    version. It's what happens when anyone runs through their own
    numbers and sees how they come out. Higher CCLL, more protein
    grams, it'll still come out high fat.

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