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  1. Pete Moore

    Despite the widespread view that the effects of mutations are exacerbated by environmental stresses,
    some stresses have been found to alleviate the effects of mutations in bacteria.

    Open any textbook on evolutionary genetics and you are bound to find phrases such as 'stress reveals
    genetic variation'. The implication is that while many stresses have a slight effect on an 'average'
    organism, if the organism has a mutation then the stress can have greater impact. For bacteria this
    would be revealed in reduced growth. At the very least you would expect growth of mutated organisms
    to be inhibited by stress to the same extent as that stress inhibits the growth of the non-mutated
    progenitor strain.

    Compare this with an engineering example and it makes obvious sense. A car drives faster down an
    urban road than across the stressful environment of rough terrain. If you 'mutate' the vehicle by
    removing a screw at random and it impedes the vehicle's ability to cope with the urban road, you
    would expect the effects of this 'mutation' to be similar, or exacerbated, when it is driven off-
    road. You would certainly not expect the deleterious effect to be reduced when driving off-road.

    But according to results published in this issue of Journal of Biology [1], Escherichia coli appears
    not to have read the textbooks. Working in the Laboratory of Living Matter at Rockefeller
    University, New York, Roy Kishony and Stanislas Leibler have found that if some stresses are applied
    to previously mutated organisms, the effect of each stress is less pronounced than when it is
    applied to wild-type bacteria (see 'The bottom line' box for a summary of their work). Kishony and
    Leibler emphasize that these are bacteria with random deleterious mutations, not rare mutants that
    manage to do better than their wild-type parents; their intention was to see the effect of the
    average mutation as opposed to studying specific rare ones. The conclusion from this study is that
    if you were to pick a mutation at random, the chances are that some of its lost performance would be
    restored under particular stresses. This really is surprising. It is saying that if you take a
    damaged biological system and push it close to the extreme, somehow the damage becomes less
    deleterious.

    There had been previous hints at this effect. "This is part of a growing body of data that shows
    that we don't understand mutational effects in different environmental conditions," says botanist
    Jeffrey Blanchard, who works at the National Center for Genomic Resources, Santa Fe, USA. "I am not
    very surprised by the results," adds James Fry, of the Biology Department at the University of
    Rochester, USA. "It goes against conventional wisdom, but then I wasn't very sure I believed the
    conventional wisdom in the first place. We had some results in our Genetics 2002 paper cited by
    Kishony and Leibler - it wasn't a major emphasis of the paper, but one of the implications is that
    there probably were mutations in which there probably were smaller proportional effects under
    stressful conditions." Fry's paper
    [2] gave an inkling, but Kishony and Leibler's has much more power to see what is going on. "Working
    with Drosophila means that our study was more crude than theirs," Fry notes.

    Read the rest at the Journal of Biology jbiol.com10 [Requires free registration]

    Kind Regards, Robert Karl Stonjek.

  2. Robert Karl Stonjek said:

    Pete Moore

    Despite the widespread view that the effects of mutations are exacerbated by environmental
    stresses, some stresses have been found to alleviate the effects of mutations in bacteria.

    Open any textbook on evolutionary genetics and you are bound to find phrases such as 'stress
    reveals genetic variation'. The implication is that while many stresses have a slight effect on an
    'average' organism, if the organism has a mutation then the stress can have greater impact. For
    bacteria this would be revealed in reduced growth. At the very least you would expect growth of
    mutated organisms to be inhibited by stress to the same extent as that stress inhibits the growth
    of the non-mutated progenitor strain.

    Compare this with an engineering example and it makes obvious sense. A car drives faster down an
    urban road than across the stressful environment of rough terrain. If you 'mutate' the vehicle by
    removing a screw at random and it impedes the vehicle's ability to cope with the urban road, you
    would expect the effects of this 'mutation' to be similar, or exacerbated, when it is driven off-
    road. You would certainly not expect the deleterious effect to be reduced when driving off-road.

    Quoted message said:

    restored under particular stresses. This really is surprising.

    No its not. Its well known and expected for living matter.

    Quoted message said:

    It is saying that if you take a damaged biological system and push it close to the extreme, somehow
    the damage becomes less deleterious.

    Your comparing the equivalent to metal fatigue and weight training. It is well understood and
    accepted that weight training involves partly damaging the muscles, so that they will build up
    stronger to compensate next time around. People have been doing this for many years.

    One is living, one is dead. Big difference. If we didn't have self repair, we wouldn't be here.

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