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  1. Quoted message said:

    Unclipped my feet, literally threw my bike onto the verge, turned around and dave had done the
    same and anyway, we proceeded to kick the *[censored]* [censored] out of the lights, number plate, boot,
    side of rear door......... the guy in the car just sat there like a [censored] - he didn't know what had
    hit him - [censored].

    Great - that'll really encourage drivers to be considerate of people on two wheels

    Next time someone leans out of their car window and shouts abuse at me I'll assume they
    think I'm you?

  2. ecce_ecce said:

    My experiences :

    You are Wayne Kerr & ICMFP.

    --
    Guy
    ===
    I wonder if you wouldn't mind piecing out our imperfections with your thoughts; and while you're
    about it perhaps you could think when we talk of bicycles, that you see them printing their proud
    wheels i' the receiving earth; thanks awfully.

    highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml

  3. Adrian Boliston said:
    Quoted message said:

    Cagers can be (and frequently are) complete [censored].

    Quoted message said:

    Well in 20 years of cycling I have never till today had an argument with a cager, so I will follow
    advice and ignore perhaps with a cheery wave to wind them up!

    Arguing with cagers is like wrestling a pig - eventually you realise that the pig enjoys it ;-)

    --
    Guy
    ===
    I wonder if you wouldn't mind piecing out our imperfections with your thoughts; and while you're
    about it perhaps you could think when we talk of bicycles, that you see them printing their proud
    wheels i' the receiving earth; thanks awfully.

    highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml

  4. Graham Glen said:

    nowhere in Barnes is less than outrageously expensive, but the population appears to have a higher
    than normal ratio of stupid people

    Prolly not stupid, just arrogant and uncaring.

    --
    Guy
    ===
    I wonder if you wouldn't mind piecing out our imperfections with your thoughts; and while you're
    about it perhaps you could think when we talk of bicycles, that you see them printing their proud
    wheels i' the receiving earth; thanks awfully.

    highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml

  5. ecce_ecce <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    You know what he means means mate - so why be so pickey ?

    You criticise someone for being picky about someone's writing (personally I think he was just making
    a humourous comment), then go on to detail two attacks on vehicles, provoked, but still illegal.
    Have you no sense of scale? The former would warrant no more than a "hmmph!" at most from the
    victim, the latter two could result in criminal charges. Weird.

    Graeme

  6. "Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    You are Wayne Kerr & ICMFP.

    I thought half term was next week -- but maybe they are earlier in the Windsor area. Anyway, we can
    expect some juvenile posts over the next week or so 🙁

  7. "Tony W" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
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    Think and 'Neighbours is oxymoron'.

    Personally, I find arguing with other road users is a waste of time. Most are unable to see beyond
    their own short term 'needs' so some prat arguing with them on the finer points of road etiquette
    is a waste of breath.

    Under the right circumstances I will shout a merry Anglo Saxon greeting -- possibly accompanied by
    a suitable wave. It doesn't help them but i find


    it

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    quite cathartic.

    🙂


    Try get into the spirit, shouting obscenities can be fun, but it does often wind me up as much as
    the person I'm doing it to, I find this more as I get older.

    The blockage/reasonable argument approach isn't designed to be instructive to the cager, it is the
    road equivalent of Trolling, purely a wind up.

    You should always attack other peoples weak points, if a cager is very impatient their weak point is
    likely to be you wasting his/her time, but if you pretend to be reasonable there is very little they
    can do, They can either argue with you wasting more of their precious time or they can appolgise to
    you in order to get you out of the way.

    Either way you have you win ;o) Childish but huge fun, try it.

  8. "ecce_ecce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My advice to car drivers if you read this is DON'T [censored] with ME. coz I (yes I DO) have a death
    wish - personal saftey takes a back seat whenever I'm out on the road....

    Perhaps I should have unclipped my weighty "oxford sentinel" D-lock from the seat tube and beat
    him with it??

  9. <snip>

    Quoted message said:

    You need toi learn what signals are for: they are for *other* road users to tell *road owners*
    what they are going to do, and for *road owners* to instruct other road users to get out of the
    way if what they are going to do requires other people to brake.


    This is similar to yellow lines and cycle lanes. Generally you can guage the intelligence of a cager
    if they read two continuous yellow lines or wide stretch of pink tarmac with solid white line to
    right and line drawings of cycles in to mean ' my personal parking space'. Ths is frequently used
    thus in my locale. I try to re-educate the morons by gently putting their drivers side mirrors out
    of alignment as I pass. Unfortunately on my ride out yesterday (see previous thread - V.Long:first
    milestone), I merely tapped the mirror on a fairly new ford escort van, only for it to detach itself
    from the vehicle and fling itself into the middle of the road behind me. Not sure who was more
    suprised, me or the cagers behind...ahem! - think it was a trap set by the cager...getting sneaky in
    these parts.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    anyway, I soon realised that there was little point in arguing any more,


    so

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    I just said "It appears you are in the wrong yet you don't realise, and this ain't getting us
    anywhere"

    Quoted message said:

    He said

    Quoted message said:

    "You are a f**king t*sser, F**KING T*SSER, T * S S E R !" and drove off


    at

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    high speed spinning his wheels and burning a lot of rubber!

    Thus demonstrating for all to see who the real [censored] is :-)

    I was overtaken yesterday by someone More Important Than Me (i.e. driving a BMW). He was about
    halfway past when he realised that (a) there was a car coming the other way and (b) we were
    rapidly approaching the back of a traffic jam. So he floored it and pulled in sharply and braked
    hard. Lucky I have disc brakes. Fifty yards later he turned right. As I rode past him on the left
    while he waited for a gap in the oncoming traffic I gave him the benefit of a phrase I picked up
    from a bloke I used to work for: "THANK YOU VERY LITTLE!"

    Cagers can be (and frequently are) complete [censored].


    It's not just cagers Guy, <sigh>, have to admit it's a general dumbing-down of the human race,
    certainly in this country. Possibly as a result of the socially secure environment the current
    generations have grown up in. Rather than being grateful for the rest of society paying for their
    existence, they take it as a god given right, then really take the [censored] when they feel hard done
    to. Those doing the earning to fund the social security system feel hard done to that the people
    they are supporting are ungrateful wretches and the whole lot end up feeling bitter and
    twisted...bit of a generalisation, but you get the idea ?.... Oh, and the success of the gossip
    mags such as Hello etc.!!!

    Quoted message said:

    Guy
    ===
    ** WARNING ** This posting may contain traces of irony. chapmancentral.comchapmancentral.com (BT ADSL and
    dynamic DNS permitting)
    NOTE: BT Openworld have now blocked port 25 (without notice), so old mail addresses may no longer
    work. Apologies.

    Cheers and Happy Valentines Day, Love y'all. Dave

  10. Always wear a helmet, so you can give them a 'Glasgow kiss' through their open window at the lights.
    (joke) but the thought has occurred on several occasions!! "Adrian Boliston" <[email hidden]>
    wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    "ecce_ecce" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    My advice to car drivers if you read this is DON'T [censored] with ME. coz I (yes I DO) have a death
    wish - personal saftey takes a back seat whenever I'm out on the road....

    Perhaps I should have unclipped my weighty "oxford sentinel" D-lock from


    the seat

    Quoted message said:

    tube and beat him with it??

  11. Another good one :

    Location: Brighton(ish)

    Out with Dave (yet again) and Phil this white van overtakes the three of us BUT totally misjudges the speed of an on coming car - and so has to swerve( towards phil ) to stop itself from having a head on RTA.

    The white van is now at a stop perhaps 10m ahead of me - I see phil knocking on the drivers window and I arrive just in time to see phil spit (yuck I know) in the drivers face.

    Phil just stands where he is and says to the bloke "Drive like again mate and that'll be BLOOD you're wiping off your face, alright?"

    Huge amount of traffic has now built up, van driver just drives off.

    "Phil" was ********* amateur boxing champion.

    Lucky escape Mr van driver, lucky escape.

    This is my best experience:

    I was riding towards a set of traffic lights at a busy cross roads.

    The lights turned to red just as I arrived - so I was the first vehicle in the queue.

    Was aware of a jeep which had pulled up close to my rear wheel

    Lights changed to green - I pulled away missed the pedal trying to re clip and subsequently started to wobble

    Of course the Jeep hadn't accounted for this and so I almost fall into the bonnet as it passes.

    Across the lights, traffic holts the jeep, and I pull along side the driver's window to appologise for the wobble,

    Driver calls me a stupid c*nt, and so I hit the roof of the jeep in anger and decide to turn immediately right, jeep is stuck so he can't follow.

    The next car to pass me is the same car that I pulled in front of to go round to the jeep driver's window - a grey ford focus.

    The driver would have seen the whole episode.

    The driver of the ford focus waved as he passed - I realised that the car was that of my girlfriend's father Mr John ********, acting detective chief inspector for the ********* police force.

    I guess it helps to have friends in the "right" places.

    He sort of commended me on my use of "french" when displaying my anger at the jeep driver.

  12. Dave said:

    Oh, and the success of the gossip mags such as Hello etc.!!!

    ... is the final proof that the human race is doomed :-/

    --
    Guy
    ===
    I wonder if you wouldn't mind piecing out our imperfections with your thoughts; and while you're
    about it perhaps you could think when we talk of bicycles, that you see them printing their proud
    wheels i' the receiving earth; thanks awfully.

    highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml

  13. ecce_ecce wrote:

    Clearly you should be writing readers' letters to MBUK instead of wasting your time around here.

    --
    Guy
    ===
    I wonder if you wouldn't mind piecing out our imperfections with your thoughts; and while you're
    about it perhaps you could think when we talk of bicycles, that you see them printing their proud
    wheels i' the receiving earth; thanks awfully.

    highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml highwaycode.gov.uk09.shtml

  14. Paul - censored said:

    [censored] happens, I just smile, wave and ride / walk / drive away, apparently oblivious to any
    threats etc.

    And that annoys them even more. S'funny old world.

    James

    --
    A credit limit is NOT a target.

  15. Tony W said:

    I thought half term was next week -- but maybe they are earlier in the Windsor area. Anyway, we
    can expect some juvenile posts over the next week or so 🙁

    Nice to know you have such a high opinion of us!

    Half term starts monday for me 🙂

    --

    -Alex

    ---------------------------------------
    www.westerleycycling.org.uk
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  16. Oxford D-lock ..................nice choice of weapon😄

  17. "Frank" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Adrian Boliston" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Have any of you cyclists ever got into an argument with a cager and then thought "What really is
    the point???"

    One good trick, is to block the cars path and then very politely ask why


    the

    Quoted message said:

    car is beeping/what is the matter. If you have genuinely done something wrong you can apologise
    and thank the driver. If on the other hand the driver is behaving like a complete [censored] and was
    just in a hurry you can slowly point out in your best humble but righteous manner (Think Harold
    Bishop out of neighbours) that they would have got where they were going much quicker if they
    hadn't beeped you in the first place.

    I find this doesn't stress me out, of course it is easier if you have a


    car

    Quoted message said:

    to block the offending drivers progress.


    I like to do this in bus lanes letting buses and taxis through but not drivers who think they can
    save a few seconds on their journey by getting to the next set of lights quicker. This also gets
    support from more considerate drivers who are obeying the law in the other lanes who think the guy
    in the bus lane is a [censored] just as much as we do.

  18. On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 21:04:38 +0000 (UTC), Alex Graham <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [Tale of woe SNIPPED]

    Quoted message said:

    I had a similar but less abusive experience today. I was approaching a mini roundabout, and could
    hear a car approaching from behind, so I moved out into the middle of the pretty narrow lane and
    came to a stop at the give way line.

    Hi Alex

    Quite near to my house is a staggered crossroad, which I ride over reasonably regularly.

    All too often, when I wish to turn right then immediately left (straight ahead), cars will pull up
    on my left with the intention of undertaking me and heading straight across.

    Of course, as a bike can accelerate faster than a car, I'm usualy able to ensure they keep the right
    side of both me and the law.

    Just my OT £0.02 James

    --
    A credit limit is NOT a target.

  19. ecce_ecce deftly scribbled:

    Quoted message said:

    knocking on the drivers window and I arrive just in time to see phil spit (yuck I know) in the
    drivers face.

    Phil just stands where he is and says to the bloke "Drive like again mate and that'll be BLOOD
    you're wiping off your face, alright?"

    Quoted message said:

    Driver calls me a stupid c*nt, and so I hit the roof of the jeep in anger and decide to turn
    immediately right, jeep is stuck so he can't follow.

    Is it any wonder car drivers think cyclists are mostly [censored].

    --
    ...................................Paul-[censored] Seti 1417 wu in 10303 hours
    setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edusetiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu graffiti.virgin.netIndex.htm

  20. Alex Graham said:
    Alan Oakley said:

    I thumped hard on the passenger window, who screamed very loudly.

    Quoted message said:

    Ive never heard a passenger window scream before :-D

    LOL. Like it :-)

    Simon

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