Apricot Kernels

Does Penicillin for double pneumonia count? Had that in 1948 (when I
was 11), & at age 66, have never had another disease, save the common
cold, since then.

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By real scientists. Of course, if you have a disdain for facts, and rely

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anecdotes, there are many of those.

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have today , none of which would seem to actually cure anything . The same
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> And, an amygdalin seller murdered my aunt....

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:: Yeah ? , well a dose of radiation therapy killed mine ....

One dose?

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I have noticed that you do not answer a simple direct question. Let's try it
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Did one dose of radiation kill your relative?

[ ] Yes
[ ] No

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Does Penicillin for double pneumonia count? Had that in 1948 (when I
was 11), & at age 66, have never had another disease, save the common
cold, since then.

Good stuff!

Sorry, no such thing as 'double pneumonia'.

ITYM Pleural Pneumonia.
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Well, that's what the M.D. called it back then, at least to my laymen
parents.

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Well, that's what the M.D. called it back then, at least to my laymen
parents.

Good thing you didn't get the Boogie-Woogie Flu.
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Their is no sound evidence to support what you have babbled about their
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I am interested to know if anyone has had success using apricot kernels

to

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combat cancer . I have a friend who has had terrific success with

kernels

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plus high doses of antioxidants and other natural products , I am

curious

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to hear of others who have also had positive results .

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There is no sound scientific evidence to support the claim that eating
apricot kernels will prevent or cure cancer. In fact, this practice can be
dangerous and potentially fatal. Apricot kernels contain a substance
called amygdalin. When the kernels are chewed, cut or crushed the
amygdalin produces the poison cyanide. Depending on the number of kernels
eaten, the cyanide can be poisonous with a range of symptoms from
dizziness to coma and death. The characteristic almond like smell in
almonds is due to benzaldehyde, another degradation product of amygdalin.

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Subject: Apricot Kernels
From: "Bew" qw@nonamewhatsover
Date: 2/27/04 4:22 AM Eastern Standard Time
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I am interested to know if anyone has had success using apricot kernels to
combat cancer . I have a friend who has had terrific success with kernels
plus high doses of antioxidants and other natural products , I am curious
to hear of others who have also had positive results .

Cheers

My approach is to determine what kind of cancer you are dealing with. First,
is it "natural" or "induced". How advanced is it and just where is it?

If it is "natural", diet, lifestyle changes, and deep detox can restore health.
I had one patient with a malignant inoperable brain tumor which dissapeared in
30 days ( based upon her oncologists interpretation of her brain scan.)

If it is "induced", then you will need additional help, the same as if a wound
had become grangrenous. You will have to cut it out or poison it out.

Here, in addition to what I would do for "natural" cancer, I would add some
amygdalin, either from apricots or apple seeds.
This nutrient contains a nitrile, not a cyanide as some non-chemists would have
you believe. However, under enzymatic cleavage, it can release cyanide and a
benzealdehyde. Both are non-toxic to normal health cells, but are toxic to
cancer cells.

If the pharmceutical industry can ever get this converted over to a synthetic,
patentable product, then we will have a much better chance at beating cancer by
going to an oncologist at your local poisoning center.

DrC PhD

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I am interested to know if anyone has had success using apricot

kernels

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to

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combat cancer . I have a friend who has had terrific success with

kernels

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plus high doses of antioxidants and other natural products , I am

curious

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to hear of others who have also had positive results .

Cheers

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There is no sound scientific evidence to support the claim that eating
apricot kernels will prevent or cure cancer. In fact, this practice can

be

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dangerous and potentially fatal. Apricot kernels contain a substance
called amygdalin. When the kernels are chewed, cut or crushed the
amygdalin produces the poison cyanide. Depending on the number of

kernels

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eaten, the cyanide can be poisonous with a range of symptoms from
dizziness to coma and death. The characteristic almond like smell in
almonds is due to benzaldehyde, another degradation product of

amygdalin.

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Apparently you can't read very well , I didn't ask for a explanation of

what

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an apricot kernel is , I already know that .

Now you also know that they are dangerous and can kill you too.

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I am interested to know if anyone has had success using apricot kernels to
combat cancer . I have a friend who has had terrific success with kernels
plus high doses of antioxidants and other natural products , I am curious
to hear of others who have also had positive results .

There is no objective evidence that apricot kernels are effective
against cancer.

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I know of someone who was taking apricot kernels for prostate cancer -
approx 30 a day - he's dead now.
I really thought he was going to get well, he did also. Still this proves
nothing.
If you go out looking for testimonials what you will find is what you are
looking for - people who claim they have got well on apricot kernals.

Too bad he doesn't realize that what he should really be looking for is
well designed clinical trials to test if apricot kernels actually do
anything for cancer.

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Doesn't even prove that it didn't work because you can't be sure how long he
would have lived without them.

Ah, but when people claim that such things DO work because they lived a
certain amount of time, their claims don't prove anything because you
can't be sure how long they would have lived if they didn't take them.

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Oh , are these the real scientists who developed all these lovely drugs we
have today , none of which would seem to actually cure anything . The same
ones who have all the answers on all things ?

You may sneer all you like, but modern medications are a boon to mankind.
Some do "actually cure" disease and save lives. Others are wonderfully
palliative. Some maintain quality of life far higher and longer that would
otherwise be possible.

And, oops, you made another absolutely silly statement. You could search for
years and you would never find a scientist or physician who claims to have
"answers on all things." Especially scientists. When all the answers are
found, all the scientists will have to look for new careers.

Indeed. Part of the reason scientists are scientists is because they
know we DON'T know everything and they want to find out as many answers
as they can.

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Oh , are these the real scientists who developed all these lovely drugs

we

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have today , none of which would seem to actually cure anything . The

same

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ones who have all the answers on all things ?

You may sneer all you like, but modern medications are a boon to mankind.
Some do "actually cure" disease and save lives. Others are wonderfully
palliative. Some maintain quality of life far higher and longer that would
otherwise be possible.

And, oops, you made another absolutely silly statement. You could search

for

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years and you would never find a scientist or physician who claims to have
"answers on all things." Especially scientists. When all the answers are
found, all the scientists will have to look for new careers.

--Rich

Oh , cool . There are thousands and thousands of drugs out there , out of
the thousands of these drugs it should be real easy to come up with a list
of 100 that are designed to actually CURE anything , that would be a fair
question .

Give me a break. There are at least that many antibiotics in existence,
and antibiotics can cure bacterial infections. And that's just one kind
of medication.

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Does Penicillin for double pneumonia count? Had that in 1948 (when I
was 11), & at age 66, have never had another disease, save the common
cold, since then.

Indeed it is. The discovery of penicillin is one of the greatest medical
discoveries in the history of medicine.

Oh, and to the alties out there: Penicillin is a NATURAL product,
derived from the fungus Penicillium notatum.

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Does Penicillin for double pneumonia count? Had that in 1948 (when I
was 11), & at age 66, have never had another disease, save the common
cold, since then.

Good stuff!

Sorry, no such thing as 'double pneumonia'.

Of course there is such a thing. It's the colloquial term for lobar
pneumonia that involves both lungs, instead of the more common case of
pneumonia involving only one lung.

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The major problem is that they think they have ALL the answers and know
EVERYTHING when in reality many of them ( of course not all ) are just drug
dispensers for the godlike drug companies and are just repeating a mantra
given to them as legitimate.

Gee, Bew, you really are a cretin. Any medical journal is loaded with
articles containing phrases like "the mechanism for this is not well
understood" (a euphemism for "we have no idea how the hell this
works."😉

It's the alties who claim to have all the answers, e.g. Hulda's "cure
for all diseases" or "Dr" Cee's explanation of how to cure any cancer
(and there are only two types!).

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net
These are my opinions only, but they're almost always correct.
"If I have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Subject: Apricot Kernels
From: "Bew" qw@nonamewhatsover
Date: 2/27/04 4:22 AM Eastern Standard Time
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I am interested to know if anyone has had success using apricot kernels

to

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Quoted message said:

combat cancer . I have a friend who has had terrific success with kernels
plus high doses of antioxidants and other natural products , I am

curious

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to hear of others who have also had positive results .

Cheers

My approach is to determine what kind of cancer you are dealing with.

First,

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is it "natural" or "induced". How advanced is it and just where is it?

If it is "natural", diet, lifestyle changes, and deep detox can restore

health.

Quoted message said:

I had one patient with a malignant inoperable brain tumor which

dissapeared in

Quoted message said:

30 days ( based upon her oncologists interpretation of her brain scan.)

If it is "induced", then you will need additional help, the same as if a

wound

Quoted message said:

had become grangrenous. You will have to cut it out or poison it out.

Here, in addition to what I would do for "natural" cancer, I would add

some

Quoted message said:

amygdalin, either from apricots or apple seeds.
This nutrient contains a nitrile, not a cyanide as some non-chemists would

have

Quoted message said:

you believe. However, under enzymatic cleavage, it can release cyanide

and a

Quoted message said:

benzealdehyde. Both are non-toxic to normal health cells, but are toxic

to

Quoted message said:

cancer cells.

If the pharmceutical industry can ever get this converted over to a

synthetic,

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patentable product, then we will have a much better chance at beating

cancer by

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going to an oncologist at your local poisoning center.

DrC PhD

Thanks for your sensible reply to my query . I personally have been taking
apricot kernels for about 3 years , I have around 20 per day , they come
from an organic orchard . I understand fully the hoo haa about cyanide and
have read several books on the subject , so I treat the cyanide alarmists
as irrelevant . I make my own choices , I also eat 2 or 3 apples every day
and always eat the pips .

The difference between conventional and alternative has really been shown to
me yet once again . Two of my friends were diagnosed with cancer several
months ago ( about 8 months ) , one with prostate cancer , the other with
prostate cancer plus melanoma plus bowel cancer , he was in a bad way .
Friend 2 had already had a previous operation on his bowel , but was told
the cancer had returned .

Friend one was very afraid to try anything outside the conventional
treatments as he was told that if he did not follow their procedures his
chances of survival were slim , if he did follow their procedures his
chances were above 80% . Of course he was very frightened and so would not
listen to anything other than what his oncologists said . People are
vulnerable when frightened and make no mistake , conventional medicine takes
great advantage of that fact , just as the quacks do . I don't blame him for
being scared , and of course we all have the right of choice , he exercised
his right , and for him it was the right decision , he was happy with his
decision .

Last week he was buried and I attended his funeral .

My second friend astounded and infuriated his oncologist when he flatly
refused any further treatment from them , he was told in no uncertain terms
what a fool he was and how he was basically signing his own death
certificate , the sort of words that strike fear into any person . I think
sometimes we can too easily be dismissive of the bravery it takes to face
the full force of the system , this huge machine , with all its
intimidating power and it's cold production line mentality , and tell them ,
thanks but no thanks , especially when it is a life and death situation ,
and the life is yours .

He took a detox course of tablets . He then embarked upon a regime of
organic apricot kernels in amounts recommended by freely available
information on the web , he added pineapple to help , plus he obtained and
used in copious amounts the best range of natural wellbeing and antioxidant
products he could find . Of course he cut out all the poisons like coffee ,
alcohol , red meat and drank only pure water . The results do date have been
great , his blood results are now returning levels so low that the
oncologist cannot accept they are real . He feels great , he is looking
forward with a positive attitude and is leading a normal life .

Maybe the answer lies somewhere in the middle of both schools of thought ,
certainly it seems that poisoning a person with chemo and deadly drugs is
meeting with dismal failure worldwide and yet they persist with this . Most
people would protest if they wanted to build a nuclear power station next
door , but accept the stuff being pumped into their body . I think maybe ,
for many the pocket comes before the patient , it certainly does with the
drug companies , they don't make money from well people . Sadly many doctors
just follow blindly along ,they are not bad people , they just cannot open
their minds and see the big picture .

Bew

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Oh , are these the real scientists who developed all these lovely

drugs

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we

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have today , none of which would seem to actually cure anything . The

same

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ones who have all the answers on all things ?

You may sneer all you like, but modern medications are a boon to

mankind.

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Some do "actually cure" disease and save lives. Others are wonderfully
palliative. Some maintain quality of life far higher and longer that

would

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otherwise be possible.

And, oops, you made another absolutely silly statement. You could search

for

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years and you would never find a scientist or physician who claims to

have

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"answers on all things." Especially scientists. When all the answers are
found, all the scientists will have to look for new careers.

--Rich

Oh , cool . There are thousands and thousands of drugs out there , out of
the thousands of these drugs it should be real easy to come up with a

list

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of 100 that are designed to actually CURE anything , that would be a fair
question .

Kisses

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Give me a break. There are at least that many antibiotics in existence,
and antibiotics can cure bacterial infections. And that's just one kind
of medication.
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That is wrong, typically the oncologists I came across claimed they were
scientists (the claimed they were, which incidentally [censored] me off as my
mother wasn't science but a human)
They had not heard of Gerson Kelley Gonzalez or any alternative, all they
could do is parrot that it wasn't science, "Me not looked, me say bad." was
their attitude.
They are stuck in their own little world oblivious to alternatives, they
should be looking - their job is to save lives after all..
Anth

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Oh , are these the real scientists who developed all these lovely

drugs we

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have today , none of which would seem to actually cure anything . The

same

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ones who have all the answers on all things ?

You may sneer all you like, but modern medications are a boon to

mankind.

Quoted message said:

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Some do "actually cure" disease and save lives. Others are wonderfully
palliative. Some maintain quality of life far higher and longer that

would

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otherwise be possible.

And, oops, you made another absolutely silly statement. You could search

for

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years and you would never find a scientist or physician who claims to

have

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"answers on all things." Especially scientists. When all the answers are
found, all the scientists will have to look for new careers.

Indeed. Part of the reason scientists are scientists is because they
know we DON'T know everything and they want to find out as many answers
as they can.

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|"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you
| inconvenience me with questions?"