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Antioxidants may be harmful sometimes

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  1. newswise.com504678

  2. Quoted message said:

    newswise.com504678

    ...and being born is routinely fatal! ;^]

    --
    _o Kristofer Dale, _ \<,_ ragged individualist,
    _____( )/ ( )_____ statistic at large...

    p.s. Learn and live, vitaletherapeutics.orgvitaletherapeutics.org

  3. "Kristofer D. Dale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    newswise.com504678

    ...and being born is routinely fatal! ;^]

    HEHEHE funny. Hard to take him seriously most of the time.
    I believe this so called study was comented on some time
    ago. If anything it proves that LDL is NOT BAD!! GASP!!
    Love how they come to the wrong conclusions instead of
    abandoning flawed preconceived notions and theories. Thanks
    Markd, yet another great example of the joke and failure of
    modern medical research. I could not have picked a better
    one myself.

  4. Wolfbrother said:

    If anything it proves that LDL is NOT BAD!! GASP!! Love
    how they come to the wrong conclusions instead of
    abandoning flawed preconceived notions and theories.

    Another nail in the coffin. Correlation doesn't breed
    causation, repeat after me . . .

    -Chad

  5. "Chad C." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Wolfbrother said:

    If anything it proves that LDL is NOT BAD!! GASP!! Love
    how they come to the wrong conclusions instead of
    abandoning flawed preconceived notions and theories.

    Another nail in the coffin. Correlation doesn't breed
    causation, repeat after me . . .

    -Chad


    That's why intervention studies are important. The other
    problem that is limiting is the testing parameters of so
    called LDL. What are you calling LDL? Low Density
    Lipoproteins are so called because of the methodology that
    was used in detecting their presence and not by the
    methodology that is presently being used. Nor is the type or
    quality of the LDL mentioned. You can have a heart attack
    with an LDL-C of 103 mg/dl and only determine later that it
    is predominantly
    Lp(a)-C. So you see one person with an LDL-C of 103 and be
    perfectly healthy and another with an LDL-C of 103 the
    typical lipid screen and he has premature heart
    problems. Correlation is important and you have to have
    the right one to begin with. With better testing then
    better more valid correlations can be made and
    interventional meds can be used more wisely and have a
    less shotgun approach. You can't say lipid profiles are
    meaningless without doing the appropriate studies in
    the first place. It is not the final answer nor is it
    implied to be that lipid modification is the primary
    culprit. It is only a temporary target in which to
    modify risk at present.

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