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Anemia Versus Death

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  1. Using logic and reason .. if transfusions TO a higher hemoglobin kill
    you and if using drugs to stimuate red blood cell production TO a
    higher hemoglobin kill you .. then .. higher hemoglobin is .. bad ..

    http://groups.google.ca/group/sci.med/msg/c2ea35645f5e0c72?hl=en&

    "it was once
    thought that blood transfusions should be performed any time a
    patient's
    hemoglobin level dipped below 10 grams of hemoglobin per decilitre of
    blood - but now guidelines in varying countries put that between 6 and
    8g."

    According to this .. the hemoglobin seems to be very low BEFORE ..
    intervention / transfusion .. is advised .. according to some
    countries.

    Now .. WHY .. is the intervention of .. erythropoiesis ..
    STIMULATING .. drugs .. used .. BEFORE .. those guidelines OF ..
    "increased death rate" ..

    If you have an increased DEATH rate .. using ONE method of increasing
    hemoglobin one might use their .. brain .. and generalize it TO .. the
    general category of .. ? .. ? .. hemglobin .. ?

    Soo .. IF .. one USES .. hemoglobin .. then one would NOT .. use ..
    the 'anemia intervention' OF .. drugs ..

    'Coincidentally' .. the drugs getting BIG PRESS LATELY .. for .. ? ..
    for .. ?

    "Killing numerous people" ..

    Sooo .. since the transfusions kill people .. and since the
    erythropoietin .. is killing everyone .. one might think these ..
    braindeadfkgmorons .. would catch .. on .. ?

    One .. might .. LIKE .. to think ..

    Hypervolemia / erythrocytosis .. is treated by .. bloodletting /
    hemodilution /
    venesection / erythrocytapheresis / phlebotomy .. etc , etc , etc

    http://tinyurl.com/35dug

    <<snip>>
    This is the largest published study measuring blood volume and
    patient
    outcomes. Congestive heart failure is the number one cause for
    admission to
    hospitals for patients over 65 years of age and results in annual
    healthcare
    costs exceeding $38 billion.

    The study followed severely ill congestive heart failure patients for
    a median
    follow up of 719 days. During the first year, the major finding was a
    39% death
    rate in patients that were hypervolemic (excess blood volume) vs. 0%
    death rate
    for those who were normovolemic/hypovolemic (normal blood volume/
    mildly reduced
    blood volume). For those hypervolemic patients that were followed for
    a median
    duration of 719 days, the death rate was almost 55% vs. 0% for those
    patients
    who were normovolemic to slightly hypovolemic.
    <<snip>>

    http://docnews.diabetesjournals.org/cgi/content/full/1/2/22

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