a. Cancellara's tempo dropped Cunego on the Croix de Fer. Yes. The former Giro winner was dropped by a Paris Roubaix winner on a climb. Hmmm.
b. The Schleck brothers stood out like sore thumbs as Vaughters would say. As far as Andy goes, I have not seen anybody ride as comfortably on a major climb since Cantadore and Rasmussen. He was looking around like he was a spectator. Absolutely no effort was required to go accross to Sanchez. It was pretty sick.
Is Andy Schleck doping? Well, you know. CSC posted a graph of its riders blood values about a year ago. They didn't post the rider's names. But, one rider was all screwed up having the hematocrit jump up and down for no apparent reason. CSC rationalized that is wasn't abnormal because that rider was so young. I wonder who they are talking about?
I have my suspiscions. Just a hunch.
young rider with potentially natural high hematocrit *
he said if it was demanded of him he would do it... this is exactly the same as what Basso said when he though he would never actually be asked to be tested because the Spanish courts shelved the case... the Italian federation shelved it too.. but when the Italian Olympic committee reopened the case and got the blood from Spain and was actually going to test the blood and Basso knew the gig was up and he admitted he was... whoever his pseudonym was on his blood bags... Contador is using the same tactic, he knows the Spanish courts have shelved the case and his Spanish federation has shelved the case so he has nothing to fear.. so far anyway...
Thanks TDL and docSpoc for clearing that up for me. I knew he would never actually give his blood, but never followed up to see how he avoided that.
extract from l'Humanité article by Jean-Emmanuel Ducoi
the CSC gang, headed by the brothers Schleck, about whom it is murmured more and more formally that they are being targetted by AFLD for autologous transfusions, that the indirect signs are evident, but that they lack certain parametres to be able to act
Extrait du journal "l'humanité", sous la plume de Jean-Emmanuel Ducoin:
"...Le gang des CSC, les frères Schleck en tête, à propos desquels il se murmure de moins en moins officieusement qu'ils seraient ciblés par l'AFLD pour "autotransfusions", que les signes indirects seraient tangibles, mais qu'il manqu
Extrait du journal "l'humanité", sous la plume de Jean-Emmanuel Ducoin:
"...Le gang des CSC, les frères Schleck en tête, à propos desquels il se murmure de moins en moins officieusement qu'ils seraient ciblés par l'AFLD pour "autotransfusions", que les signes indirects seraient tangibles, mais qu'il manqu
Do I understand correctly that the Schlecks were whispering unofficially between themselves that they were targetted for testing and that the indirect signs are visibe but the testers don't have them? And what are those signs?
Do I understand correctly that the Schlecks were whispering unofficially between themselves that they were targetted for testing and that the indirect signs are visibe but the testers don't have them? And what are those signs?
Rdbker reticuloytes, hemoglobin, crit
Frank Schleck client of Fuentes
Frank Schleck accused of being amigo di Birillo, and client of Fuentes
[/QUOTE] Ok, I thought "it" might be the performance they have been showing...but that makes more sense.
And the thing about Schleck too, there's been quite a lot of guessing at least here about Fränk going for the occasional visit to Fuentes'. Maybe they have (does the story tell?) have new info/evidence to support this?
Ok, I thought "it" might be the performance they have been showing...but that makes more sense.
And the thing about Schleck too, there's been quite a lot of guessing at least here about Fränk going for the occasional visit to Fuentes'. Maybe they have (does the story tell?) have new info/evidence to support this?
Poor poor Fränk...it's interesting though that they bring this info out only when on the top of his world. As if they deliberately wanted a scandal 😕 But anyways this is very bad for Riis too. If this is somehow confirmed he can probably say bye-bye to the Saxo Bank-suffix - and oops, nearly forgot: they don't have that CSC-prefix next year anyways 🙂
Edit: You could actually make a new thread for this thunder
Poor poor Fränk...it's interesting though that they bring this info out only when on the top of his world. As if they deliberately wanted a scandal 😕 But anyways this is very bad for Riis too. If this is somehow confirmed he can probably say bye-bye to the Saxo Bank-suffix - and oops, nearly forgot: they don't have that CSC-prefix next year anyways 🙂
Edit: You could actually make a new thread for this thunder
There's no test for autologous blood doping, correct? Only a presumption of doping if the hematocrit > 50? And only mere suspicion if the hematocrit < 50, but higher than previously recorded during the race or the season?
There's no test for autologous blood doping, correct? Only a presumption of doping if the hematocrit > 50? And only mere suspicion if the hematocrit < 50, but higher than previously recorded during the race or the season?
no, incorrect.
They can tell doping thru manipulation of your natural parameters with the performance on the road.
If the paramaters are abnormal, and the rider is not sick, yet is blowing the peloton to pieces, there is but one reason. They can see the natural crit, natural reticulytes, and natural hemoglobin. All variables will naturally move in some degree. But they can see when they all move out of allignment, and the performance is not of someone suffering a natural occurrence.
They can tell doping thru manipulation of your natural parameters with the performance on the road.
If the paramaters are abnormal, and the rider is not sick, yet is blowing the peloton to pieces, there is but one reason. They can see the natural crit, natural reticulytes, and natural hemoglobin. All variables will naturally move in some degree. But they can see when they all move out of allignment, and the performance is not of someone suffering a natural occurrence.
Sure, all that can raise suspicions, but would that qualify as a definitive positive result?
There's no test for autologous blood doping, correct? Only a presumption of doping if the hematocrit > 50? And only mere suspicion if the hematocrit < 50, but higher than previously recorded during the race or the season?
there is no official test, but WADA is currently funding research for an autologous blood transfusion test... i don't thing there is an ETA for it though...
they know you are manipulating your blood from looking at parameters longitudinally though... e.g. ratio of mature to immature blood cells etc.
