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  1. Sick of antibiotics? Those of you who have experienced recurring bouts of
    cystitis and are desperately searching for an alternative to antibiotics may
    identify with Anna's story from www.d-mannose-uk.com:

    "Until I discovered the wonderful properties of D-Mannose, I suffered
    repeated and persistent infections of E.coli related cystitis over many
    years, with as many as six virulent attacks per year.

    At first, I tried the usual things, like drinking gallons of water laced
    with baking soda. Raw lemon juice (uugh!). Bottles of Robinson's Barley
    Water helped for a while, drinking it neat at the first sign of infection
    (not pleasant, but just bearable, and better than cystitis). High doses of
    raw garlic helped for a while.

    Fortunately, I have a very supportive partner, and he has sat up all night
    with me, feeding me the most disgusting concoctions, and gallons of water,
    and occasionally, we managed to beat the infection, and do without
    antibiotics.

    As for personal cleanliness: when we have sex, we are clean enough to go
    straight into an operating theatre and perform open heart surgery.

    The thing I gradually realised was that I was not being reinfected, I was
    simply succumbing to the same infection that was getting stronger and
    stronger every time. E.coli lives in the body naturally, but as you continue
    to take antibiotics your immune system gets weaker all the time, until even
    becoming slightly run down, as from missing some sleep, can cause a
    recurrence of the infection.

    Gradually, the infections got worse, and it eventually came to the point
    with each infection when there was no option but to approach the doctor for
    antibiotics.

    This was when things began to get really bad. For some reason, many doctors
    don't seem to take women's infections with cystitis seriously. The number of
    lectures I've had from young male doctors telling me to wipe my bottom from
    front to back... I mean, does any girl reach the age of four without
    learning that one?

    Already having fought an infection and failed, when I eventually gave in and
    decided that I needed antibiotics, I needed them then and there. I never
    went for antibiotics until I realised that the infection had got as far as
    my kidneys, but doctors would insist on a urine sample, and refuse
    antibiotics until that had been checked. So I'd have to wait days in pain,
    with my kidneys getting more damaged, and causing me more pain with with
    each passing day. We are not just talking sore here - it was agony. If I
    gave in to the need for antibiotics on a Friday, it would usually be Monday
    before I could get an appointment. Then, maybe two more days before the
    urine test results came back, and I'd get the antibiotics.

    To be fair, some doctors treated me better than this. But it's not easy, and
    I think I've gone through about seven doctors to find one who understood the
    pain and dangers of cystitis.

    But even then, they'd prescribe the lightest possible antibiotic, and that
    would fail to kill the infection, so when I went back they'd give me more of
    the same. But an antibiotic that has failed to beat an infection will never
    again work, because the bacterium has built up a resistance to that
    antibiotic. If you attack it with more of the same, as a general rule, it
    just becomes more resistant.

    You can see the pattern beginning... my infections got worse and worse. The
    doctor's well-meaning insistence on the lowest possible dose of antibiotics
    caused increasingly resistant strains of E.coli. It takes a bit of focusing
    in on, this point - obviously it's not a good thing to give antibiotics as a
    general rule, and obviously it is better to give as low an effective dose of
    antibiotics as possible, and as innocuous an antibiotic as possible that
    works, but when you get down to the individual patient, you can't apply
    these rules non-specifically. There are too many variables. (I know doctors
    in the NHS just don't have the time to look very carefully at what's going
    to work, and what's not).

    Soon, nothing would cure my infections but the hardest, toughest, kill or
    cure broad-spectum antibiotics that have the most appalling side-effects,
    and have left me with persistent abdominal pain, and all the symptoms of
    IBS.

    Anyway, it was after a very bad episode of cystitis, and treatment with 7
    days of a Fluoroquinolone-based broad-spectrum antibiotic that I realised I
    was in serious trouble. The infection hadn't gone away. Doctors couldn't
    give me anything more powerful. My kidneys were failing. I would drink
    gallons, and issue a tiny cupful. My liver was also failing, from the
    effects of the antibiotic, and I had huge abdominal bloating, and extreme
    pain. Basically, I was at the end of my tether.

    Fortunately, that was the day that our first shipment of Waterfall D-Mannose
    arrived in a parcel.

    I took one level teaspoonful in a small glass of apple juice, and, even
    though I had just finished seven days of strong antibiotics, when I went to
    the toilet the urine I passed smelled totally foul, and highly infected.

    I thought, "Oh no, I've got the cystitis worse than ever!"

    I was wrong. The foul smelling urine was caused by the D-Mannose flushing
    the E.coli out of my kidneys and urinary tract!

    Within hours of taking Waterfall D-Mannose, my symptoms were starting to
    abate. WIthin a day I was clear of cystitis symptoms. Free at last from the
    pain, I cried with relief.

    Now I am left with the after-effects of the antibiotic. I have damaged
    kidneys that still cause a lot of pain. I have a liver problem. I have joint
    pains, from calcification caused by fluoride poisoning from the
    Fluoroquinolone-based antibiotic. I have a damaged immune system that means
    I have to be very careful. But at least I can now have a normal sex life,
    and I have the comfort of knowing that a small spoonful of Waterfall
    D-Mannose, as a maintenance dose, prevents the E.coli from ever getting a
    grip. If I forget to take it, with my propensity for cystitis, I
    occasionally do still get the first signs, especially if I have not had
    enough to drink that day, but a spoonful of Waterfall D-Mannose has never fa
    iled to flush it out of my system.

    Doctors have known for years that D-Mannose is many times safer and more
    effective than antibiotics for treatment of E.coli based urinary tract
    infections, but they are mentally locked in to clinical treatments. In
    America, it's widely available. In Europe and the UK, it was next to
    impossible to get hold of, until now.

    It is for women to take responsibility for their own health, and seek out
    effective long-term solutions that do not deplete their immune system, cause
    side-effects that are ruinous to their health, or destroy the natural
    life-enhancing bacteria that the body needs to digest food and have a
    healthy body eco-system.

    I am convinced that Waterfall D-Mannose can play a large part in creating
    that healthy eco-system. It works for me! "

    Anna Sawkins
    www.d-mannose-uk.com
    01904-340916
    PS: We export all over the world.

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    I am convinced that Waterfall D-Mannose can play a large part in creating
    that healthy eco-system. It works for me! "

    Anna Sawkins
    www.d--mannose-uk.com
    PS: We export all over the world.

    Commercial spam is in violation of the charter of this newsgroup.

    This spam has been reported to your ISP.

    GO AWAY SPAMMER!

  3. Cystitis can be crippling for any sufferrer but prevention is better
    than cure and even if you have the first signs of symptoms there is
    plenty you can do.

    There are natural products that can deal with infection and good
    natural products that can be taken daily to boost the immune system
    and enhance your feeling of well-being.. Sadly some of the 'over the
    counter' natural products do not have the strength to cure and are not
    always unpolluted.

    There are good quality natural products available so please email me.

    Penny
    [email hidden]

    "bt openworld" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Sick of antibiotics? Those of you who have experienced recurring bouts of
    cystitis and are desperately searching for an alternative to antibiotics may
    identify with Anna's story from www.d-mannose-uk.com:

    "Until I discovered the wonderful properties of D-Mannose, I suffered
    repeated and persistent infections of E.coli related cystitis over many
    years, with as many as six virulent attacks per year.

    At first, I tried the usual things, like drinking gallons of water laced
    with baking soda. Raw lemon juice (uugh!). Bottles of Robinson's Barley
    Water helped for a while, drinking it neat at the first sign of infection
    (not pleasant, but just bearable, and better than cystitis). High doses of
    raw garlic helped for a while.

    Fortunately, I have a very supportive partner, and he has sat up all night
    with me, feeding me the most disgusting concoctions, and gallons of water,
    and occasionally, we managed to beat the infection, and do without
    antibiotics.

    As for personal cleanliness: when we have sex, we are clean enough to go
    straight into an operating theatre and perform open heart surgery.

    The thing I gradually realised was that I was not being reinfected, I was
    simply succumbing to the same infection that was getting stronger and
    stronger every time. E.coli lives in the body naturally, but as you continue
    to take antibiotics your immune system gets weaker all the time, until even
    becoming slightly run down, as from missing some sleep, can cause a
    recurrence of the infection.

    Gradually, the infections got worse, and it eventually came to the point
    with each infection when there was no option but to approach the doctor for
    antibiotics.

    This was when things began to get really bad. For some reason, many doctors
    don't seem to take women's infections with cystitis seriously. The number of
    lectures I've had from young male doctors telling me to wipe my bottom from
    front to back... I mean, does any girl reach the age of four without
    learning that one?

    Already having fought an infection and failed, when I eventually gave in and
    decided that I needed antibiotics, I needed them then and there. I never
    went for antibiotics until I realised that the infection had got as far as
    my kidneys, but doctors would insist on a urine sample, and refuse
    antibiotics until that had been checked. So I'd have to wait days in pain,
    with my kidneys getting more damaged, and causing me more pain with with
    each passing day. We are not just talking sore here - it was agony. If I
    gave in to the need for antibiotics on a Friday, it would usually be Monday
    before I could get an appointment. Then, maybe two more days before the
    urine test results came back, and I'd get the antibiotics.

    To be fair, some doctors treated me better than this. But it's not easy, and
    I think I've gone through about seven doctors to find one who understood the
    pain and dangers of cystitis.

    But even then, they'd prescribe the lightest possible antibiotic, and that
    would fail to kill the infection, so when I went back they'd give me more of
    the same. But an antibiotic that has failed to beat an infection will never
    again work, because the bacterium has built up a resistance to that
    antibiotic. If you attack it with more of the same, as a general rule, it
    just becomes more resistant.

    You can see the pattern beginning... my infections got worse and worse. The
    doctor's well-meaning insistence on the lowest possible dose of antibiotics
    caused increasingly resistant strains of E.coli. It takes a bit of focusing
    in on, this point - obviously it's not a good thing to give antibiotics as a
    general rule, and obviously it is better to give as low an effective dose of
    antibiotics as possible, and as innocuous an antibiotic as possible that
    works, but when you get down to the individual patient, you can't apply
    these rules non-specifically. There are too many variables. (I know doctors
    in the NHS just don't have the time to look very carefully at what's going
    to work, and what's not).

    Soon, nothing would cure my infections but the hardest, toughest, kill or
    cure broad-spectum antibiotics that have the most appalling side-effects,
    and have left me with persistent abdominal pain, and all the symptoms of
    IBS.

    Anyway, it was after a very bad episode of cystitis, and treatment with 7
    days of a Fluoroquinolone-based broad-spectrum antibiotic that I realised I
    was in serious trouble. The infection hadn't gone away. Doctors couldn't
    give me anything more powerful. My kidneys were failing. I would drink
    gallons, and issue a tiny cupful. My liver was also failing, from the
    effects of the antibiotic, and I had huge abdominal bloating, and extreme
    pain. Basically, I was at the end of my tether.

    Fortunately, that was the day that our first shipment of Waterfall D-Mannose
    arrived in a parcel.

    I took one level teaspoonful in a small glass of apple juice, and, even
    though I had just finished seven days of strong antibiotics, when I went to
    the toilet the urine I passed smelled totally foul, and highly infected.

    I thought, "Oh no, I've got the cystitis worse than ever!"

    I was wrong. The foul smelling urine was caused by the D-Mannose flushing
    the E.coli out of my kidneys and urinary tract!

    Within hours of taking Waterfall D-Mannose, my symptoms were starting to
    abate. WIthin a day I was clear of cystitis symptoms. Free at last from the
    pain, I cried with relief.

    Now I am left with the after-effects of the antibiotic. I have damaged
    kidneys that still cause a lot of pain. I have a liver problem. I have joint
    pains, from calcification caused by fluoride poisoning from the
    Fluoroquinolone-based antibiotic. I have a damaged immune system that means
    I have to be very careful. But at least I can now have a normal sex life,
    and I have the comfort of knowing that a small spoonful of Waterfall
    D-Mannose, as a maintenance dose, prevents the E.coli from ever getting a
    grip. If I forget to take it, with my propensity for cystitis, I
    occasionally do still get the first signs, especially if I have not had
    enough to drink that day, but a spoonful of Waterfall D-Mannose has never fa
    iled to flush it out of my system.

    Doctors have known for years that D-Mannose is many times safer and more
    effective than antibiotics for treatment of E.coli based urinary tract
    infections, but they are mentally locked in to clinical treatments. In
    America, it's widely available. In Europe and the UK, it was next to
    impossible to get hold of, until now.

    It is for women to take responsibility for their own health, and seek out
    effective long-term solutions that do not deplete their immune system, cause
    side-effects that are ruinous to their health, or destroy the natural
    life-enhancing bacteria that the body needs to digest food and have a
    healthy body eco-system.

    I am convinced that Waterfall D-Mannose can play a large part in creating
    that healthy eco-system. It works for me! "

    Anna Sawkins
    www.d-mannose-uk.com
    01904-340916
    PS: We export all over the world.

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