Air conditioning

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Dee Dee said:

This is only vaguely amusing to me in that since 1998, I have a terrific
problem with heat. I feel a little frustrated in that it does limit my
comings-and-goings, and it is hard for most everyone to understand this.
My
body thermostat just must've stopped working; I can hardly understand it
myself.

My mom was heat sensitive. I vaguely remember my dad mantioning that it
was because she didn't sweat (to cool down her body). Strange as that
may seem, as I look back, I don't remember my mom ever, like, coming
back into the house sweaty even after a few hours working in the garden
in August.

Very interesting theory. No I don't sweat either. Well, maybe a few beads
on my forehead.

I'll have to add this (being silly, of course) that I'm not a open-mouth
breather. Perhaps if I opened my mouth like a dog does to sweat, perhaps
that would help, too.

Oh, you're just trying to reinforce your story in that other post that
it was the guys in the car beside of you were the the dogs. 😉

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Robert L Bass said:

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I'll have to add this (being silly, of course) that I'm not a
open-mouth breather. Perhaps if I opened my mouth like a dog does
to sweat, perhaps that would help, too.

Oh, forget it! ;-)
Dee Dee

Let me get this straight. A woman actually needs to open her mouth
wider??

Only kidding. [Robert quickly ducks to avoid being struck by a
fusillade of zucchini]

Man, oh man...you passed up a chance to use "a fusillade of fusilli".

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Robert, I, too, could easily get used to hired help ;-)

We wanted to bring the maid back to Florida with us so earlier this year I
contacted the US consulate. They informed me that only US State
Department staff are permitted to bring foreign household help with them.
Somehow that just seems wrong. The State Department has created for
themselves a special class of US citizen with privileges which they deny
to ordinary folk. I guess I should have expected as much.

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Robert L Bass

I don't consider you ordinary. I've never known anyone in my life that has
a maid, let alone one traveling with one.
I won't delve into your financial status in life, but it seems sorta
'special' to me.
Most people I know that might have money to hire a maid, prefer to do their
own work. But I realize that there are different cultures that a maid is
part of the family and a necessity.

Dee Dee

Dee Dee said:

I don't consider you ordinary. I've never known anyone in my life that has
a maid, let alone one traveling with one.
I won't delve into your financial status in life, but it seems sorta
'special' to me.
Most people I know that might have money to hire a maid, prefer to do their
own work. But I realize that there are different cultures that a maid is
part of the family and a necessity.

I had a great set of military quarters in Germany that can with a maids
room in the basement. Each apartment came with their own maids room but
a communal bathroom for the help. We used ours as a playroom for the
kids and only used a putzfrau on occasion. Back when the exchange rate
was great it wasn't uncommon to have a putzfrau or nanny.

Omelet said:

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Nancy2 said:

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Picky, picky! I did say "sometimes" and the accusers normally
are generalizing!

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PA> AC is indeed essential in many areas of the country,
PA> including here (NC). It's when AC is used to keep too-big
PA> McMansions colder than needed that the waste comes into
PA> play.

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James Silverton
Potomac, Maryland

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In addition, internal thermostats differ from person to person. What's
"too cold" for one, may be "too warm" for another.

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Here in flyover country, when the temps are in the 90s and humidity in
the 90s and the air is "calm," I dare anyone to sleep comfortably
without A/C. A fan just blows hot air around.

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N.

Yep.

I may [censored] about my power bill, but the thermostat is still set at 72!
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So is mine - unless I'm doing physical labor like cleaning, painting
walls or something - then it's at 70. And I still drip. Maybe I'm
just a freak. LOL.

I will say, since I got a new furnace 3 years ago, my power bills have
been way low. I really can't complain - even when my contractor had
the garage door open and the inside back door to the garage open in
this heat/humidity, my bill that month wasn't noticeably higher.

N.

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James Silverton said:

Omelet wrote on Wed, 05 Sep 2007 13:18:29 -0500:
O> I may [censored] about my power bill, but the thermostat is still
O> set at 72! --
I find that 80F is quite pleasant providing that the central system
comes on from time to time to stir up the air. Even 82F is not too
bad under similar conditions if you want to be frugal and are not
engaged in much physical activity. At night, if I want to get to
sleep at temperatures, say 77F and above, I use a window fan if the
AC is to be off.

I have a programmable thermostat. It's set for 82F during the weekdays,
then ramps down to 79 before I get home. Later it goes down to 76 for
sleepytime. I have ceiling fans that help circulate the air.

It's generally pretty comfortable.

Brian

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You guys at 80, 82, 76 or whatever - your internal thermostats are
different from mine, is all.

I have a programmable thermostat, but don't program it because it's
just me, and I can certainly turn the 'stat up or down without having
to check the clock. LOL.

N.

Pete C. said:

Blinky the Shark said:

Dee Dee wrote:

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And I'm a really good .... anyone can fill in the blanks .. because I
keep my thermostat in the summer at 77. In fact I'm better than
anyone else here, except those who cannot afford air conditioning.

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I usually don't turn on the A/C until it hits 90F (inside). My break
point for comfortable sleeping is about 86.

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I LIKE it in the 70s, but I'll generally turn off the A/C before it gets
there.

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(*I* am the thermostat.) 🙂

I let my thermostat do the work. Heat to 68, cool to 78. That pretty
well covers my comfort range.

I heat to 66. Sometimes 64 or even 62. I'm just hot all the time.
My oldest son is like me; my youngest freezes. It's a good thing the
youngest doesn't live with me any more. ;-)

My ex-MIL used to keep her thermostat at 77 all year 'round, and then
wore sleeveless tops and shorts in the wintertime (Iowa). We'd all
get sick when we went to visit, because that thermostat never moved,
winter, summer, or sleeping, and it would dry out our nasal membranes
and we'd be susceptible to every little bug that came along.

The older I get, the less tolerant of heat I am.

N.

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used to using A/C only in my office and the bedroom.
Even the kitchen isn't air conditioned and no one
complains. Of course, that might be partly because
we have hired help in the kitchen there.

I guess you can get used to anything. :^)

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It's not fair to say a person can get used to anything. I've lived
here nearly all my life (except for stints in Florida, Kentucky and
Oklahoma), and I never got used to the heat. We didn't have A/C when
I was young, nor even when I was first married in the 60s, and I
suffered a LOT.

Everyone is different. My dad and my grandpa loved it hot and humid -
the more, the better. I'm not like that. There's nothing I can do
about it, either.

So, bully for all of you who can "save on energy" by turning your A/C
temps UP, or by not using it at all. I take my turn "saving energy"
in the winter, when I keep the house at 62 or 64 deg., and turn it
down to 58 when I'm gone during the day.

N.

Pete C. said:

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I am my own thermostat also.
I don't even use the AC in my car; even if temps go over 90F.

So you're risking the lives of others on the road by driving around on
the verge of heat stroke, presumably over .5 MPG?

That's pretty dumb. Humans have this nifty built-in cooling system
called "sweating". You open the windows for air circulation, and
presto, uncomfortable but functional.

My old Bronco had the AC compressor die in the last few years of its
life, and it just wasn't cost-effective to repair. I got along
adequately in the heat and humidity of St. Louis just fine.

Brian

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You guys at 80, 82, 76 or whatever - your internal thermostats are
different from mine, is all.

I have a programmable thermostat, but don't program it because it's
just me, and I can certainly turn the 'stat up or down without having
to check the clock. LOL.

N.

Some will say that it is better to leave it alone oneself, but to program it
to get the best efficiency.
That, in fact, not abiding might be helping to the destruction of the Earth.

But I think there should be 'some' discretion allowed to citizens of this
planet.

I am expecting some 'workers' to come to my house in a couple of hours. I
am using that discretion to physically turn down my thermostat a couple of
degrees for their comfort; mind you, not mine.

Dee Dee

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used to using A/C only in my office and the bedroom.
Even the kitchen isn't air conditioned and no one
complains. Of course, that might be partly because
we have hired help in the kitchen there.

I guess you can get used to anything. :^)

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Robert L Bass

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It's not fair to say a person can get used to anything. I've lived
here nearly all my life (except for stints in Florida, Kentucky and
Oklahoma), and I never got used to the heat. We didn't have A/C when
I was young, nor even when I was first married in the 60s, and I
suffered a LOT.

Everyone is different. My dad and my grandpa loved it hot and humid -
the more, the better. I'm not like that. There's nothing I can do
about it, either.

Some older people will actually sit and swelter in their homes just because
they love the heat. My inlaws would roll the windows up in the car to keep
from getting a breeze and I would almost choke from the heat. The hotter
the better they like it.
Dee Dee

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Dee Dee said:

And I'm a really good .... anyone can fill in the blanks .. because I keep
my thermostat in the summer at 77.

I'd die. :-(
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Sheldon said:

I keep my AC set to 68F, but nights here are rather chilly even in mid
summer so the AC doesn't run most nights... and the AC season here is
rather short too... but when days are hot here they're HOT! And some
folks, young and elderly alike, have ailments that require
*conditioned* air.

Sheldon

I can't sleep if it's hot.
I feel like I am suffocating.
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Dee Dee said:

Very interesting theory. No I don't sweat either. Well, maybe a few beads
on my forehead.

I'll have to add this (being silly, of course) that I'm not a open-mouth
breather. Perhaps if I opened my mouth like a dog does to sweat, perhaps
that would help, too.

Oh, forget it! ;-)
Dee Dee

We don't sweat cuz we are ladies, dammit. We glisten. <snort> But
seriously, I do not sweat, not even when it is 105 and I am sitting on
the patio or watering plants. If it is hot, and I do physical work
outdoors, then I may sweat. I try to avoid doing that.<g>

Becca

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kilikini said:

Robert L Bass said:

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I work at home in hot but somewhat less steamy
TX. I could probably acclimate to something higher
than 78, but I stopped there for the aquarium, not
wanting to fuss with trying to cool it...

I work at home, too. My house is in Southwest Florida --
Sarasota, to be specific. Summer temperatures are
routinely in the upper nineties. Humidity is frequently
close to 100%. A/C is more than a convenience. It's
a necessity, especially for elderly folks who make up
around half the population.

When I lived in CT I kept the A/C at 72º in the summer.
Here I leave it at 78º during the day and 80º at night.

As you know, my second home is in Brazil where 90º
is considered a bit chilly. There I somehow got
used to using A/C only in my office and the bedroom.
Even the kitchen isn't air conditioned and no one
complains. Of course, that might be partly because
we have hired help in the kitchen there.

I guess you can get used to anything. :^)

I'm in Zephyrhills, FL and our central A/C/heating unit completely died this
year - the capacitor blew. We got a window unit that we keep at 71 and it
cools the rest of the house with the use of three fans. We freeze in the
living room, but the back rooms are a swampy 84 degrees. We deal with it.

The worst thing is the black mold that forms in the shower and the toilet
due to the extra humidity.

What I'm fearing is the winter with no heat. (Yes, it *does* get cold here
in Central Western Florida.)

kili

Plug in electric space heaters.

You will be fine. :-)

But, TFM might have to bundle up.
That is what long/thermal underwear is for?

Be sure to take pics. <G>
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"Dee Dee" <[email hidden]> wrote

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Some will say that it is better to leave it alone oneself, but to program
it to get the best efficiency.
That, in fact, not abiding might be helping to the destruction of the
Earth.

Apparently there are coal mine fires in India and China that
dwarf our auto/etc emissions. I don't know how much our angst
over turning up the A/C is helping matters.

nancy

Robert L Bass said:

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Robert, I, too, could easily get used to hired help ;-)

We wanted to bring the maid back to Florida with us so earlier this year
I contacted the US consulate. They informed me that only US State
Department staff are permitted to bring foreign household help with
them. Somehow that just seems wrong. The State Department has created
for themselves a special class of US citizen with privileges which they
deny to ordinary folk. I guess I should have expected as much.

Could she come to the US on a tourist visa? They last 5 years for
Americans, I am assuming it works the same in the other direction. I am
sure she would enjoy it here, even though she would be working.

Becca

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In article <[email hidden]>,

Dee Dee said:

And I'm a really good .... anyone can fill in the blanks .. because I
keep
my thermostat in the summer at 77.

I'd die. :-(
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I have a cousin like that -- she even wears shorts in the house in the
winter.
As I write this, my thermometer at the desk says 76.8 -- right on target.
I'm comfy.
But turning it down for someworkers coming in an hour or so.
Dee Dee

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Nancy2 said:

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I may [censored] about my power bill, but the thermostat is still set at 72!

So is mine - unless I'm doing physical labor like cleaning, painting
walls or something - then it's at 70. And I still drip. Maybe I'm
just a freak. LOL.

I know what you mean. ;-) When both dad and I have been out doing yard
work, that is the ONLY time we both agree to drop the thermostat below
72!

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I will say, since I got a new furnace 3 years ago, my power bills have
been way low. I really can't complain - even when my contractor had
the garage door open and the inside back door to the garage open in
this heat/humidity, my bill that month wasn't noticeably higher.

N.

I've got double insulated windows, extra insulation on the sides of the
house and in the attic, and they are still $150.00 to $175.00 per month
just for power. :-P

The sheet insulation in the attic goes OVER the AC vent work too!
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Dee Dee said:

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You guys at 80, 82, 76 or whatever - your internal thermostats are
different from mine, is all.

I have a programmable thermostat, but don't program it because it's
just me, and I can certainly turn the 'stat up or down without having
to check the clock. LOL.

N.

Some will say that it is better to leave it alone oneself, but to program it
to get the best efficiency.
That, in fact, not abiding might be helping to the destruction of the Earth.

But I think there should be 'some' discretion allowed to citizens of this
planet.

I am expecting some 'workers' to come to my house in a couple of hours. I
am using that discretion to physically turn down my thermostat a couple of
degrees for their comfort; mind you, not mine.

Dee Dee

That "best efficiency" thing is highly variable. Everyone has a
different schedule so there is no standard programming. Indeed for
continuous occupancy there isn't anything to program since the temp
needs to stay in the comfort range all the time.