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Adjustable crank idea

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  1. I wrote this post some weeks ago in a bout of enthusiasm at
    a unicycle idea I had. Since then I've been wondering if
    I've actually got the correct idea of what splines are
    because some recent posts seem to be saying that splined
    cranks aren't particularly easy to take on and off.

    However, here's the post in its original form, it's about an
    idea for adjustable cranks, all comments welcome.

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    The most obvious way to make adjustable cranks is to simply
    have extra holes for the pedal to screw into, this has the
    benefit of simplicity but also several drawbacks: -

    1. when in 'long mode' the inner hole is a weak area
    for the crank
    2. changing length necessitates unscrewing the pedal and
    rescrewing it into a different hole i.e. inconvenient if
    changing a lot and also, I suspect that there is a limit
    to how often they can be changed before the threads start
    taking damage

    The other method, and one used in commercial models, is a
    sleeve arangement; it works and seems to be intended for
    tandems, but involves compromises between strength, ease of
    adjustability etc.

    The few tests of available adjustable cranks by unicyclists
    seem to have not been successful, with the cranks breaking;
    though we should differentiate between cranks used for
    commuting/transport and those used for muni/trials (with big
    drops etc).

    So here's my idea, in theory it looks like it should work
    well, but, lacking the tools/knowledge necessary to make a
    prototype, I'm not able to make and test it out. (see
    attached image)

    The idea is, rather than adjusting the actual length of the
    crank, the distance betweeen the crank and pedal is altered
    by a mechanism that effectivly creates a bend in the crank.

    So, if it is set to '125 mode', the pedal axis is 125mm from
    the wheel axle, creating the same leverage effect as if a
    125mm crank is used.

    The benefits of this system is: -

    3. Use of present unicycling technology; splined axle/cranks
    are becoming commonplace and the same tools could be used
    to create the elements of the adjustable crank.

    4. Strength. I'm no engineer, but, given that splined
    axles/cranks are used in top of the range muni/trials
    unis, and, as far as I can see there is no reason why the
    stress on pedal/crank splines should be greater than the
    present axle/crank splines; then this setup should be
    strong enough for all uses of uni.

    5. Ease of changing length. As all the stress of riding
    should be mainly in the direction of the circumference
    of the spline hole, rather than at right angles, it
    shouldn't require a hefty mechanism to hold the pedal
    in the crank hole. This means that something as simple
    as a hole drilled through the protruding spline part
    with a retaining pin should sufice, enabling quick and
    easy changes.

    Like I said, I'm no engineer so maybe there's some flaws
    I've missed and it'd be great if someone with experience in
    making uni parts/engineering gave some feedback.

    It'd be nice if it did work because one of the things I love
    about unicycles is their mechanical simplicity. As someone
    whose experienced the pros and cons of different crank
    lengths for a given wheel size, i know that a workable
    variable crank would be a great boon to unicycling.

    Of course, it looks like geared unicycles will soon be on
    the market, but my feeling is that they will have issues of
    cost and lack simplicity.

    While gears may have the edge in terms of a large range, I
    would be quite happy with a crank that adjusted from 150-
    125mm, and I see no reason why a range of 100-175mm should
    not be feasible with a splined angle crank mechanism.

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    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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  2. This is the set up for 125mm mode: -

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    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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  3. And 150mm mode: -

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    --
    onewheeldave - Semi Skilled Unicyclist

    "He's also been known to indulge in a spot of flame juggling - but it's
    the Muni that really fires him up."

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