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  1. My daughter (12) spent about a month training for a labor day 5k and
    then started running cross country with her Middle School team. A few
    weeks into the season she complained that the area just above her heel
    hurt and both her pediatrician and orthopedic diagnosed it as achilles
    tendonitis. She started seeing a physical therapist who noticed that
    not only is her range of motion smaller on her problem ankle, the girth
    of that leg is noticibly thinner and when asked to go on her tip toes
    she can only go half as high on her problem leg as on her other leg.
    Does this all seem to fit with an achilles problem? Thanks, Joyce

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    My daughter (12) spent about a month training for a labor day 5k and
    then started running cross country with her Middle School team. A few
    weeks into the season she complained that the area just above her heel
    hurt and both her pediatrician and orthopedic diagnosed it as achilles
    tendonitis. She started seeing a physical therapist who noticed that
    not only is her range of motion smaller on her problem ankle, the girth
    of that leg is noticibly thinner and when asked to go on her tip toes
    she can only go half as high on her problem leg as on her other leg.
    Does this all seem to fit with an achilles problem? Thanks, Joyce

    Yep. The good news is that if she is sensible and does some
    rehabilitative exercise, she should see much better response than an adult.

    Dave

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    My daughter (12) spent about a month training for a labor day 5k and
    then started running cross country with her Middle School team. A few
    weeks into the season she complained that the area just above her heel
    hurt and both her pediatrician and orthopedic diagnosed it as achilles
    tendonitis. She started seeing a physical therapist who noticed that
    not only is her range of motion smaller on her problem ankle, the girth
    of that leg is noticibly thinner and when asked to go on her tip toes
    she can only go half as high on her problem leg as on her other leg.
    Does this all seem to fit with an achilles problem? Thanks, Joyce

    She is pregnant.

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    Quoted message said:

    My daughter (12) spent about a month training for a labor day 5k and
    then started running cross country with her Middle School team. A few
    weeks into the season she complained that the area just above her heel
    hurt and both her pediatrician and orthopedic diagnosed it as achilles
    tendonitis. She started seeing a physical therapist who noticed that
    not only is her range of motion smaller on her problem ankle, the girth
    of that leg is noticibly thinner and when asked to go on her tip toes
    she can only go half as high on her problem leg as on her other leg.
    Does this all seem to fit with an achilles problem? Thanks, Joyce

    She is pregnant.

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    My daughter (12) spent about a month training for a labor day 5k and
    then started running cross country with her Middle School team. A few
    weeks into the season she complained that the area just above her heel
    hurt and both her pediatrician and orthopedic diagnosed it as achilles
    tendonitis. She started seeing a physical therapist who noticed that
    not only is her range of motion smaller on her problem ankle, the girth
    of that leg is noticibly thinner and when asked to go on her tip toes
    she can only go half as high on her problem leg as on her other leg.
    Does this all seem to fit with an achilles problem? Thanks, Joyce

    From a previous post:

    Knowing About & Caring for Your Friend, The Achilles Tendon

    The irritation of the Achilles Tendon is a symptom that something else is
    letting go. More often than not, it's the calf muscle that needs some
    loving attention.

    Knowing About & Caring for Your Friend, The Achilles Tendon
    c.2000 Austin "Ozzie" Gontang, Ph.D.

    Asensenig wrote:

    I'm training for the Country Music Marathon in Nashville on April 29th
    and have developed a case of "mild" achilles tendonitis in my right leg.
    The pain is a dull ache right behind the ankle/just above the heel. My
    training for the marathon has been on schedule with long runs every
    other weeked, (the last one 20 miles) one interval session or tempo run
    per week, etc. (I'm a 47 year old male, 6 feet, 200lbs, wear Gel Kayano's
    with orthotics. This is my fifth marathon. I average about 35 miles a
    week
    and stretch before and after each run.)

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    My questions is, how can I nurse this achilles tendon along for the next
    six
    weeks and still do what is necessary for the race? Any help, whether from
    personal experience with a similar problem or knowledge of this type of
    injury would be greatly appreciated. Thanks is advance for your response.

    Asensenig,

    I'd look to the calves be it soleus or the gastrocs to find the trigger
    point(s) where the calf is holding and causing the semi-contraction of
    the
    calf so that the part of the calf that can't let go transmits the
    tension to
    the Achilles.

    The other thing I'd look to, is to see, if the shins on the right leg are
    tight which would mean that the right calf has to work against a
    semi-contracted antagonist muscle. So even if you loosen up the right
    calf
    the right shin is still causing the problem for the right calf.

    Then again since as you and I have talked about off and on, the
    tightness in
    the left quad or hamstring might be affecting the planting of the right
    foot
    which results in the calf problem being a result of the left leg...or
    tightness in the right illiopsoas.

    I went through the same diagnosis with my left calf early in '99. Ended
    up
    it was the fact that I was carrying an overweight rip stop nylon
    briefcase
    in my left hand. The excess weight tightened up my left shoulder. I also
    realized that when I was sitting at the computer, the chair I used which
    has
    arms, I would lean on my left elbow. The left elbow callous was the first
    dead giveaway. Looking in the mirror when going for my monthly body work
    session showed the lean to the left of my whole upper body.

    Some further thoughts:

    1. Is the soleus more slow than fast twitch? In my mind slow twitch
    muscles
    as mentioned are stabilizer or postural muscles. My reason for thinking
    that
    soleus is more fast twitch???

    2.I want the soleus to be strong and elongated. The problem often is
    that it
    is strong and semicontracted because of a portion of it
    bundled/adhesioned
    (i.e. the fascia around a section is holding and not allowing that
    portion
    of the soleus to go through its range of motion. So when you stretch the
    soleus, you stretch the portion that can stretch and not the portion
    bundled
    up with the adhering fascia...causing the good muscle fibers to
    overstretch
    and gradually join the bundle that can only partially let go.

    3. Remember the Achilles is tendon. Tendon is white and grisly which
    means
    there is minimal blood flow to that area. One reason tendonitis
    (inflammation of the tendon) doesn't heal quickly...lack of adequate
    blood
    flow...as one sees in red oxygen enriched muscle tissue.

    4. Yes on the massage of the soleus once the trauma has subsided

    5. One reason for icing muscles is that the cold constricts the vessels
    and
    then once the cold is stopped rich oxygenated blood flows back in to
    flush
    the area with its healing nutrients.

    6. I have some question in my mind about strengthening the calves...if it
    means that they are strong but shortened.

    7. There's always the question in my mind about doing the heels off the
    step
    so that the calves are put under a extreme strain. If the knot in the
    muscle
    doesn't get stretched the tension is passed along the healthy muscle
    fiber
    and then onto the minimally blood fed tendons.

    8. Also there is what is called the kinetic chain concerning the
    movements
    we make as various muscles fire in a certain pattern. Putting the calf
    under
    strain by the heels off the step, the slant boards, etc. might cause more
    problems then they solve, if the exerciser is doing the exercise and not
    thinking about the way the muscles fire in sequence to create movement.

    9. It's not what you know that gets you in trouble. It's what you know
    that
    just ain't so. If you're not thinking nor paying attention to your
    thinking
    body which knows how to move when you don't think about it, then you are
    creating your own injuries and blaming it on something else.

    And finally a web site talking about: It's the Calves Not the Achilles:

    Check out http://mindfulness/of1.asp

    You'll see how I use a railing to do the rolling from side to side all
    the
    way up and down the calf. Physical Therapists call it Transverse
    Friction...i.e. rubbing across the muscles in the area where it is
    knotted.

    Remember the inflammation of the Achilles tendons is often caused by the
    calves not letting go. That's why I would have some reservations about
    the
    calf raises. Calf raises would only shorten the calf muscles even more.
    We
    want elongated and strong, not shortened and strong calf muscles.

    Also tightness in the shins can also cause the calves to tighten
    unnecessarily. The front shin muscles should be relaxing maximally when
    the
    calf is contracting. . If the shin muscles can relax fully the calves
    have
    to work against muscles that cannot fully relax. When the shins are tight
    the calves have to work against a semi-contracted muscle.

    Some related articles that might be of further interest

    Soak Your Legs After Long Runs In Cold/Frigid Water

    Posture: Its effect on Quads, Hams, Gluts And Some Things To Do About It

    --
    Ozzie Gontang
    Maintainer - rec.running FAQ
    http://www.faqs.org/faqs/by-newsgroup/rec/rec.running.html
    Director, San Diego Marathon Clinic, est. 1975

    Mindful Running http://www.mindfulness.com/mr.asp

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