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A guide on setting goals:

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  1. Enjoying this part of the year is critical, you should be having fun doing what ever your favorite endurance activity is. Running, cycling, or even some cross training into that other sport you may not always have time for. Mentally this part of the season is about finishing up any last-minute goals and starting to plan for the future.

    Planning for the season ahead is really more complicated than some may think. At this point of the season you have to be thinking about what did you like or not like about the past season, what events suited you well (and those that didn’t) and how this will factor into the season ahead. Is there a new team? How do I want to improve? What event is it that I could do best at next year? Setting these goals are of high priority for the season ahead.

    The biggest mistake I have found in working with athletes is the statement of “I want win (or do x place) at this event.” There is one glaring mistake in this logic. You can not control what other people are doing. What if John lost his job and decided to just ride all the time instead? (while ridiculous, you get the idea…) Placing emphasis is in performance goals is a very hard thing to unwire.

    Instead look at it from a more logical and easier way to understand why you got “x” place at the event from last year. For example: In one of my bike races this past year, I got dropped on a hill during a short criterium. Looking back at the race it is very easy for me to say why did I get dropped, and why did I not get 15th place or better? Breaking this race down shows a much better way of understanding it. It was an hour-long race and the race crossed this hill roughly 38 times. I made it through 35 mins, So I was able to do roughly 17 laps. This particular hill was about :50 sec long. and the average pace was about 22 mph or 450 watts for :50 sec, 38 times. Looking at this means, that if this was my goal race for next year I need to improve my ability to perform the workload from 17 times, to 38 times. This is a trainable goal that is possible to quantify. Here is more or less numeric proof, that if I can obtain this goal, I will have a much better shot at then placing in some “x” place.

    Here is another example dealing with cycling, but is very applicable to any endurance sport.

    My goal this year is this:

    To go to Green Mountain Stage Race, My unicorn race and lay down 4 very good days of racing. This 4 days will have this goal attached with them based of the previous years field.

    day 1 = 14 mins @ 420 watts
    day 2 = being able to complete a 3.5 hour race at about 2600 kj’s with minimal fatigue in my legs
    day 3 = being able to climb two big mountains at 350+ watts for 20-30 mins
    day 4 = being able to perform about 35 laps with 35 hill repeats at 500+ watts.

    By doing these four things, I know my chances at GMSR are likely very good.

    Quantifying your goals into some tangible amount of data is likely to be more motivating as well. You will have to perform “x” by this certain date. And by another date you will have to perform “x” again. This is setting up miniature goals that break down the big “I want to win” into smaller more obtainable daily goals. And this works with any sport be it running, triathlon, swimming, everything. It can all be broken down into some form of pace or ability to repeat a measured performance.

    So, here is the challenge: Instead of having a performance goal this year, think of what amount of performance will likely place you well in the race for next year. Right this goal down and hang it somewhere you can see it. Look at it every day, and always remember every workout is helping in some way to reach that ATTAINABLE goal.

    Ride Hard
    Coach Jordan

    Next week: how to break down a goal to start thinking about how to best train

    for more information about coaching and how to achieve these goals go to:
    www.achievecaoching.net or go to coachjordan.wordpress.com

  2. Thanks coach,
    I see that you have just started posting, but a lot of the advice you gave is pretty good/relevant. I am in the process of planning out next season. And yes, it is "easy" to say that I want to win "X", but you are right that there are so many uncontrollable factors that go into a win, that setting goals like that are kinda meaningless. So, I am working instead on trying to define my weaknesses so that I can train effectively. But dwelling on weaknesses can be demoralizing . . .

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    Originally Posted by Coachjordan [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG] Planning for the season ahead is really more complicated than some may think. At this point of the season you have to be thinking about what did you like or not like about the past season, what events suited you well (and those that didn’t) and how this will factor into the season ahead. Is there a new team? How do I want to improve? What event is it that I could do best at next year? Setting these goals are of high priority for the season ahead.

    The biggest mistake I have found in working with athletes is the statement of “I want win (or do x place) at this event.” There is one glaring mistake in this logic. You can not control what other people are doing. What if John lost his job and decided to just ride all the time instead? (while ridiculous, you get the idea…) Placing emphasis is in performance goals is a very hard thing to unwire.

    Who are you targetting with this? For your average amateur athlete enjoyment is the primary goal, and in many ways getting a result - a win or a place is the only goal that matters - if it wasn't then they'd be doing time trials or other solo events where they can control the variables and wattage based goals make sense. So whilst of course you can't control what others do (although for the amateur rider that's why we have categorised racing - John would be quickly racing a higher cat) a placed goal is the only meaningful one for a lot of people wanting to compete in racing. Wattage goals also don't talk at all about the skill component of racing, I have a similar 5minute and FTP power and weight of a team mate of mine. When he stopped racing due to his job he was within a few points of his Elite licence (we're in the UK E/1/2/3/4 cats), I've done a full season and managed just a single point in 3rd cat racing. My weaknesses are purely tactical. I have wattage goals which means I've failed to address the weaknesses - if I'd set placing or points based goals I would've been forced to. This hasn't mattered to me, my goals are related to the numbers, but most of my teammates couldn't care less about their numbers. Quote:
    Originally Posted by Coachjordan [IMG]/img/forum/go_quote.gif[/IMG] So I was able to do roughly 17 laps. This particular hill was about :50 sec long. and the average pace was about 22 mph or 450 watts for :50 sec, 38 times. Looking at this means, that if this was my goal race for next year I need to improve my ability to perform the workload from 17 times, to 38 times. This is a trainable goal that is possible to quantify. Here is more or less numeric proof, that if I can obtain this goal, I will have a much better shot at then placing in some “x” place.

    And what happens if next year John is there with a couple of his mates and they're on the front forcing you to do 500watts up the same hill? You'll still get dropped even if you've met the wattage goal you've set yourself. Wattage goals are also odd things to set - why not get as strong as you can be? Either easing up on training prematurely or totally psyching yourself out before the races even begin by having not met them. Of course wattage goals and ideas of what you need are part of it, but I don't see how what you're proposing is really very useful.

  4. JibberJim,

    You raise great points with what you are saying. Its true that wattage goals or making your training like a race will not simply replace the desire and angst to win. To do well in racing you have to have the desire to have "x" placing, especially to advance to the next placing.

    Perhaps the better way of explaining it is this way: I see lots of athletes get done with a race and say "I want to be top five next year" The problem is they focus so much on the concept of beating people and get focused purely on the competition itself. What many fail to do is to accurately quantify what tools will help them for next year. This is the intent of the what I wrote hear. To be a serious racer you need to set performance goals based on placing and taking into account the variables of other people.

    The training I wrote above does leave room for error. In the example I gave, the race next year may very well be much much harder. However training in the way I described is more than likely going to give a better chance at doing well, despite the difference.

    The audience this was written for was more beginner level racers. I have on many occasions seen athletes so disappointed that they didn't get 3rd place or whatever they were shooting for. I try to encourage the bigger picture; they probably set records for their power outputs, or did a personal best sprint to achieve what they did. These are the small wins that help the athlete advance psychologically. Many people I feel over emphasize the importance of arbitrary placings, instead of their actual performance.

    Great Points, thank you!

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